sorry, not "weekly" I don't know how frequently such a group should meet!

On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate@gmail.com> wrote:

Max, this is great:

"Be radical sudo men. Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy."

But let's also meet and talk, I think it will be fruitful. Please share your availability on this calendar, and we'll start a little weekly meeting group. I favor Mondays in case folks have similar interests:

http://when2meet.com/?1557201-cZIKf

// Matt

On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 7:10 AM, Max Klein <isalix@gmail.com> wrote:

As I see it - or perhaps I am wanting to see it this way - this Men's group's purpose would be to combat mindlessly performing inculcated patriarchal motions. And in the process of de-conditioning yourself as a "man", becoming a convincing, subtle and non-naggy argument for other men to do the same. Slowly doing what we can do restore a gender equitable society, from our side (while knowing that we can't do it ourselves, that's the sort of thinking that got us here in the first place).

So a thousand yeses to all of the above. But how do we do it? In person meetings? Too self selecting. Online? Not visible enough. Making a charter? Toothless. Doing volunteer work? Pointless doting.

Here's my suggestion, and I'm open to more. Be radical sudo men.

Do your dishes, and smash the platetriarchy.

notconfusing

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <ryan.bethencourt@gmail.com> wrote:

Great idea and I'm in if we can keep the time commitment relatively light

On Feb 19, 2014 9:12 PM, "Matthew Senate" <mattsenate@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey all,

Positive responses at the weekly meeting. I started mulling it over more and would like to add:

I'm basically reaching out for help to men who would like to actively contribute to improving the performance of gender dynamics and to provide space for healing and support in sudo room. Please consider contributing, no experts required, just an open mind.

Max,

I don't have any particular resources in mind at the moment, want to be a bit open-ended, see what makes sense, then do some research and document along the way.

// Matt

On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 7:03 PM, Max B <maxb.personal@gmail.com> wrote:

I think its a great idea!

Would you mind linking to some resources that have explanations of what you're thinking about more specifically? I think people may have very different ideas of what a men's group might do. I can do some looking around later if need be.

On February 19, 2014 6:48:50 PM PST, Matthew Senate <mattsenate@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey all,

I wanted to reach out for some feedback. Seeking folks who would want to facilitate or participate in a men's group. 

I've previously participated in small groups like this and found them beneficial for various reasons. I would like to see if folks have had similar or different experiences.

The way I'm thinking about this would culminate in something like a regular meeting for men in the sudo room community to discuss relevant issues including those of identity, oppression, privilege, patriarchy, gender, sexuality, stereotypes, safe space, and mutual support.

This may not be the best or even a viable path to approach these topics, but I wanted to throw it out there to see if there is any interest.

Thanks,
Matt

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