So we're voting on the diff page or the Articles of Association page? I've noticed some serious differences between them.
And if we're voting on the Articles of Association page, shouldn't all the changes that have been made to the document, that are different than what the diff is, be reverted too?
I'm having trouble figuring out what changes over the past week are authorized, and by whom. Other than Matt.


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 7:01 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate@gmail.com> wrote:
As per this suggestion:

"Please feel free to propose alterations to the Articles of Association by creating a new child page, such as was done with Articles of Association/Draft!"

I reverted this edit and instead created a working draft for Eddan: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association/Eddan

Thanks for throwing it up there Eddan, really helpful to have a clean place for these changes so we can learn to improve our Articles.

// Matt


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Eddan Katz <eddan@clear.net> wrote:
I agree as well. 

In that case though, I am going to withdraw my Mandate Vote proposal because it was already incorporated in the version of the Articles of Association Yardena sent out. I had made the change according to the process laid out in the amendments last weekend, when I emailed the list and followed the instructions to make the changes directly on the wiki.


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On Mar 14, 2013, at 3:22 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco@gmail.com> wrote:

I agree completely.

On Mar 14, 2013 3:09 PM, "Julio Rios" <julio.rios@gmail.com> wrote:
Can we just vote on the proposal as is and treat improvements as a separate proposal?  I don't think anyone has serious objections to the current text, but it isn't perfect; nothing will be perfect.  Wouldn't it be better to have this implemented than to continue to delay the process?  

I would encourage continued discussion, but conclusions from that should be a separate proposal, if only to simplify what we're trying to accomplish with this process.  Do you guys disagree?


On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:48 PM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco@gmail.com> wrote:

Please don't edit that draft directly; rather discuss changes on the list or create a child article from the draft to make your changes on so it is clear whose changes are whose.

On Mar 14, 2013 12:26 PM, "Eddan Katz" <eddan@clear.net> wrote:
On what draft should we make edits and/or comments? Or should these be discussed on this list in this thread?


sent from eddan.com

On Mar 13, 2013, at 10:45 PM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack@gmail.com> wrote:

> We are trying to revise our Articles of Association! Because we try to
> do this consensually, we bring changes both AT the meetings, and ON
> the mailing lists, as per the existing articles here:
>
>   https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Articles_of_Association#Section_4.1_Process
>
> At the March 13th meeting, we had a straw poll in on THESE changes:
>
>   https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Articles_of_Association%2FConstable&diff=2980&oldid=2635
>
> We voted unanimously in favor of these changes: 7 yes, 0 no, 11
> abstaining. But that was only a straw poll. We are going to have a
> REAL, BINDING vote on these changes at the March 20th meeting. If
> there are no objections meanwhile from this mailing list, and if that
> meeting also votes yes, then the OFFICIAL Sudoroom Articles of
> Association will then look like this:
>
>   https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Articles_of_Association/Constable&oldid=2980
>
> The intervening week is your opportunity, internet peanut gallery, to
> voice any objections, because we care about those not physically
> present! Thank you so much for helping make Sudoroom awesome and
> consensual. :)
>
> Yardena
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