Suburban living is not conducive generating value in an innovation/cognitive economy. The suburbs, and the externality of time spent in commute, like increasing privatization in other spheres, will be the burden of the poor in the future. 

Just saying "rich people should live in the suburbs" is not only dumb but it obscures the actual dynamics of what is driving contemporary urban development. The mission was working class because a large labor force was needed in the nearby working waterfront and industrial zones. That mode of production is gone and isn't coming back. 

That's why as Sonja says we need to use the excess capital now to build as much housing and infrastructure as possible in ways that is socially and environmentally acceptable. Unlike Sonja I don't think speculative luxury projects trickle down, but are rather flipped from investor to investor and never inhabited. 

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On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Andrew <andrew@roshambomedia.com> wrote:

"Forcing people into the suburbs is bad for those people, and bad for the environment. If you're anti urban development, you're pro-freeway."

I'm pro subway, we should have an actual one in the bay area. at this point rich people should be living in the suburbs not in the cities. I mean this is a tech boom. Which means for most jobs that are making a ton a money you can work anywhere, so work from your swanky apartment in Concord or Walnut Creek, not in The Mission. Makes sense to me.

On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 4:41 PM, The Doctor <drwho@virtadpt.net> wrote:

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> The causation is backwards here. The rich people are coming/ here
> no matter what. THATS WHY developers and cities want to build. They
> see an

The argument can be made that people are coming here because they can
afford it, and they think that starting here will give them a chance
to get rich.

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