Excuse me for resending this email treat, but the Sudo-mesh list was not
linked from the first email that I sent out.

Thx!



-------- Original Message --------
Subject:        Re: [sudo-discuss] Server Room Status
Date:   Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:12:03 -0700
From:   hol@gaskill.com
To:     David Keenan <dkeenan44@gmail.com>
CC:     sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org



 >the compressor for that could also provide cooling for the servers.
i think doing experiments on heat recovery and regenerative hx are good
for longterm - using a compressor and refrigerant to cool hot things may
be less green than using fans and just circulating fresh cool air and
letting convection do the work.  if there's no objection, we could set
up temp racks where daniel and others propose until we can run coax to a
more optimal area.  i finally have some time this week so i'll be around
to assist with low-level tasks in support of setting up basic infrastructure

cheers







On 2014-07-06 10:00, David Keenan wrote:

> hey guys,
>
>
> I applaud the effort to find a good, secure server space! I definitely
> wanna help.
>
> The main issue with using this particular room is, as you can see by
> looking at the floorplan, the Backspace wellness collective is
> already paying rent on that particular area (NW groundfloor
> corner) and will be making their own changes to that space. Backspace
> is myself, Andrew of course, Margaretha, Athena, and Sarah.
>
> The wellness collective needs quiet - thats partly an attraction for
> that corner of the building - and, a cabinet full of fans plus almost
> certainly AC for the cabinet, is loud. Also, it takes up Backspace,
> and to be honest, i have hard time inamagining Sudo wont need to get
> into it alla the time, so it seems nonideal to me.
>
> In general I would think, before using other essentially non-shared
> areas of the building for Sudo's servers, we would have to
> actually rule out why building the room in other locations, like Sudo
> room, wouldnt work, and why we think actually that particular location
> in someone else's area is really the only place it could work.
>
> Regardless of Bsckspace, having racked & stacked for going on 20 years
> that would not be my first location in the entire building for a lot
> of reasons.
>
> Also, a server cabinet / closet does not need to be near the main
> electrical panel. Nor does it does not need to be near the street.
>
> We could find a room in the basement. There is excellent ventilation
> to the basement, that just needs a small fix. Also the furnaces are in
> the basement, and heat from the servers could tap into that venting to
> actually help heat the building, which could save on energy. Also,
> there is a plan to build a walk-in in the basement - the compressor
> for that could also provide cooling for the servers.
>
> In other words, in my view, we should attempt a green solution that
> ties the serbers into the infrastructure for the building.
>
> :)
> d
>
> On Saturday, July 5, 2014, Somebody <somebody@riseup.net> wrote:
>
> === SERVER ROOM UPDATES ===
> 2014/07/05:
> Today Luis, Matt, and I did the walk in the building, and so far the
> only place that seems the
> most appropriate to have the server room is the room by the bar.
>
> This area is the most ideal in the whole building because the air
> flow,
> temperature, electricity proximity, and also because it is where the
> Internet access enters the building.
>
> Since this area is not is not part of the SudoRoom space, we will have
> to talk about it with the rest of the Sudo-Mesh group and the group
> approves it, then we would have to present the idea at our
> Omni Collective meeting for approval.
>
> If approved by the Omni Collective, we would need to build:
>
> * A 2" or so high floor (two by fours and plywood would do, I believe.
> * A 55" x 65" cage with chicken wire walls and a door.
>
> If this place is NOT approved by the OOC then perhaps we should
> consider
> building the Server Room in the SudoRoom Space. High temperature and
> noise levels are the main issues.
>
> If others have ideas/comments/or want to be part of this process
> please
> jump in. You may contact Matt, Luis, or myself (Daniel).
>
> This update and all other Network/Reboot project is found at:
> https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Network/Reboot
>
>
> This update and all other Network/Reboot project is found at:
> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Network/Reboot
>
> Thx!
>
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