i certainly like the sound of building an enclosed area upstairs & will help w/same but it really hasn't been that cold the past few days.

i wonder if the worst is behind us.

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   1. Re: a warm place to hack (Autonomous)
   2. Re: a warm place to hack (Jake)
   3. need power strips for sudoroom (robb)
   4. Hardware Hacking Tuesday sub this week? (Jake)
   5. Re: a warm place to hack (Alex Peake)
   6. Re: a warm place to hack (yar)
   7. Re: a warm place to hack (hol@gaskill.com)
   8. Re: a warm place to hack (hol@gaskill.com)
   9. Fwd: [omni-discuss] Application for membership - The      Mess
      (Jenny Ryan)
  10. Friends of Goto to gather sat 1/9 @ 7pm (Matthew Senate)
  11. Re: a warm place to hack (Ed Biow)
  12. Do you have an awesome project? (Hilary Naylor)
  13. Re: a warm place to hack (Jake)
  14. TAZ status? (hol@gaskill.com)
  15. Re: TAZ status? (Marc Juul)
  16. Re: TAZ status? (Morgan Allen)
  17. Re: TAZ status? (Patrik D'haeseleer)
  18. Re: a warm place to hack (Adam)
  19. Re: TAZ status? (Morgan Allen)
  20. Re: a warm place to hack (Marc Juul)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 21:35:03 -0800
From: Autonomous <autonomous666@gmail.com>
To: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
Cc: "sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org"
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Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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>please write back if you think this is a good idea.

Yeah, you can also look up one of the following heating methods: Kotatsu,
Korsi, Mesa Camilla, or Sandali

I have used something similar to stay warm in sub-freezing temperatures
without having to rely on space heating.




On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:

> we are all starving for a warm place to hack, and sudoroom attendance is
> reduced for obvious reasons.
>
> what we need is a warm room to hack, and i propose the following:
>
> we tarp above the server balcony of sudoroom, and seal the whole thing
> like a room.  To enter from the steps you have to pull back a magnetically
> sealed thing or maybe we can make a hinged door thing, i don't know.
>
> all the heat from the servers (and people hacking in there) will be
> conserved and it will be social in addition to being warm.
> I have some lighting that might be appropriate, to help people feel like
> they're in the sun, as well as providing warmth.
>
> also it will be a nice chance to clean up that area and move things around
> and make it a hacking zone again.
>
> HOW CAN I HELP?
>
> if you have tarps or sail material or blankets or rope or anything you
> think could be used to close off the area, let's talk about it to see if it
> will work.  If you bring it in on your own I hope you install it too - it
> might take some carpentry or something to have places to attach it.
> I think the ceiling should be about 10' high, or whatever it takes to
> enclose the eastern shelves up there and securely seal to the wall.
>
> if you know what any of the stuff is upstairs, and think you can clean up
> or move things elsewhere, please do that.  We have a lot of printers and I
> don't know which ones are good or bad, and there are a lot of stereo
> systems and computers up there that maybe need to be put back into
> inventory, or put in the e-waste pile.
>
> also it's really dirty and dusty up there, so if you know where is a
> vacuum and/or brooms/dustpans please help get it clean up there.
>
> please write back if you think this is a good idea.
>
> -jake
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 00:20:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
To: Autonomous <autonomous666@gmail.com>
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On Sun, 3 Jan 2016, Autonomous wrote:

> Yeah, you can also look up one of the following heating methods: Kotatsu, Korsi, Mesa Camilla, or Sandali
> I have used something similar to stay warm in sub-freezing temperatures without having to rely on space heating.

I like the idea of a Kotatsu, but I feel like it would be hell on my back
and i wouldn't be able to maintain that pose for very long.  Maybe others
feel differently.  But it would be nice to have the balcony area clean
enough and nice enough for this kind of thing, and would hopefully attract
the folks who have been avoiding sudoroom partially because it's so dirty.

http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2012/01/16/diy-ikea-kotatsu-hack/

http://astrobeano.blogspot.com/2014/01/kotatsu-made-in-scotland.html


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 01:19:08 -0800
From: robb <sf99er@gmail.com>
To: Sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] need power strips for sudoroom
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>
> this is a simple request.  If you have extra power strips, we could use
> them at sudoroom.
>
> i has power strips

>
> also if you have those plastic UPS things we can use those too, even if
> their batteries are no good.
>
> yes, please! more dead battery ups things. if we get any dead ups things,
i would very much like to trade power strips for em - i wanna make arduino
dmx dimmer packs


> power strips can be left on the main table and we'll put them to work.
>

ok

~r
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 01:32:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
To: sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Hardware Hacking Tuesday sub this week?
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I am having a busy week this week, and I wonder if anyone is available to
host Hardware Hacking Tuesday at 7pm in case I am late or unavailable.

It's easy, you just say hello to new people and tell them about the space,
and help them find things if you know how, and introduce people if you
think it makes sense.

You just have to be able to show up on Tuesday by 7PM and you can leave at
10 or 11 if you want.

thank you
-jake


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 09:55:44 -0800
From: Alex Peake <empowerthyself@gmail.com>
To: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
Cc: "sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org"
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Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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The heated room balcony is a great idea. It may be easier to make it
structurally sound if you use insulation panels. At Home Depot, polystyrene
panels 4x8' are around $8 and Polyiso high-insulation panels are $20 1" or
$30 2". Those are going to allow you to cut an exact room out that will
last and are similar to what is used to construct Hexayurts if you have
heard of those being used in the desert for example. I would be glad to
help with the build.

On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 3 Jan 2016, Autonomous wrote:
>
> Yeah, you can also look up one of the following heating methods: Kotatsu,
>> Korsi, Mesa Camilla, or Sandali
>> I have used something similar to stay warm in sub-freezing temperatures
>> without having to rely on space heating.
>>
>
> I like the idea of a Kotatsu, but I feel like it would be hell on my back
> and i wouldn't be able to maintain that pose for very long.  Maybe others
> feel differently.  But it would be nice to have the balcony area clean
> enough and nice enough for this kind of thing, and would hopefully attract
> the folks who have been avoiding sudoroom partially because it's so dirty.
>
> http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2012/01/16/diy-ikea-kotatsu-hack/
>
> http://astrobeano.blogspot.com/2014/01/kotatsu-made-in-scotland.html
>
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2016 10:00:33 -0800
From: yar <yardenack@gmail.com>
To: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:
> we tarp above the server balcony of sudoroom, and seal the whole thing like
> a room.  To enter from the steps you have to pull back a magnetically sealed
> thing or maybe we can make a hinged door thing, i don't know.

I like the idea of a warm space. Sucks that it won't be wheelchair
accessible. Maybe once all the able-bodied people have been collected
into one corner, we'll stop blocking the aisles with junk in the rest
of the room. :)


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 14:37:01 -0800
From: hol@gaskill.com
To: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
Cc: sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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I have the following to contribute if desired:
-an old 1500W bionaire bh3950 space heater that I was going to use to
make a shitty kotatsu, would draw ~15 amps so would need to have its own
cord to a lightly loaded circuit.
-some clear 6 mil poly sheeting, not sure how much left but is 10' wide
and would make a good translucent wall for the hack mezzanine

On 2016-01-04 00:20, Jake wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jan 2016, Autonomous wrote:
>
>> Yeah, you can also look up one of the following heating methods:
>> Kotatsu, Korsi, Mesa Camilla, or Sandali
>> I have used something similar to stay warm in sub-freezing
>> temperatures without having to rely on space heating.
>
> I like the idea of a Kotatsu, but I feel like it would be hell on my
> back and i wouldn't be able to maintain that pose for very long.
> Maybe others feel differently.  But it would be nice to have the
> balcony area clean enough and nice enough for this kind of thing, and
> would hopefully attract the folks who have been avoiding sudoroom
> partially because it's so dirty.
>
> http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2012/01/16/diy-ikea-kotatsu-hack/
>
> http://astrobeano.blogspot.com/2014/01/kotatsu-made-in-scotland.html
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2016 14:40:44 -0800
From: hol@gaskill.com
To: Alex Peake <empowerthyself@gmail.com>
Cc: sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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 i forget, is polyisocyanurate super fire retardant or super flammable?
would be good to span the 8' without any other support. otherwise the
1.5" styrofoam with 2x2 "studs" should work well.

On 2016-01-04 09:55, Alex Peake wrote:

> The heated room balcony is a great idea. It may be easier to make it structurally sound if you use insulation panels. At Home Depot, polystyrene panels 4x8' are around $8 and Polyiso high-insulation panels are $20 1" or $30 2". Those are going to allow you to cut an exact room out that will last and are similar to what is used to construct Hexayurts if you have heard of those being used in the desert for example. I would be glad to help with the build.
>
> On Mon, Jan 4, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jan 2016, Autonomous wrote:
>
> Yeah, you can also look up one of the following heating methods: Kotatsu, Korsi, Mesa Camilla, or Sandali
> I have used something similar to stay warm in sub-freezing temperatures without having to rely on space heating. I like the idea of a Kotatsu, but I feel like it would be hell on my back and i wouldn't be able to maintain that pose for very long. Maybe others feel differently. But it would be nice to have the balcony area clean enough and nice enough for this kind of thing, and would hopefully attract the folks who have been avoiding sudoroom partially because it's so dirty.
>
> http://www.spoon-tamago.com/2012/01/16/diy-ikea-kotatsu-hack/ [1]
>
> http://astrobeano.blogspot.com/2014/01/kotatsu-made-in-scotland.html [2]
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 13:05:52 -0800
From: Jenny Ryan <tunabananas@gmail.com>
To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Fwd: [omni-discuss] Application for membership
        - The   Mess
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New Omni member application! We can discuss it at the Wednesday meeting.

Cheers,
Jenny

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Date: Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 12:07 PM
Subject: [omni-discuss] Application for membership - The Mess
To: "discuss@lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss@lists.omnicommons.org>, "
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Cc: Renée <rmlevesque@gmail.com>, "Sang S. Kim" <sangkimsf@gmail.com>



*Hi everyone, The Mess Sketch Comedy Troupe had rehearsals here a month or
so ago. They love the space and what we are doing and decided to apply to
be a member collective. They will be at the delegates meeting on Thursday
to answer questions. Please discuss their application with your
collectives. *

1. Mission Statement

THE MESS is a theatre troupe and collective of writers, dancers, singers,
actors, and mischief makers who are out to do comedy that is a reflection
of the Bay Area’s diverse culture.

2. Origin and Group History

THE MESS is a sketch comedy troupe based in California's East Bay with
writers, dancers, singers, actors, and mischief makers from all over the
globe. In Fall 2011, Renée LeVesque and a group of theatre folks began
hosting a weekly pirate radio show on Radio Valencia in San Francisco. What
they quickly discovered is that doing live action theatre was their real
passion. They began asking the question, what if instead of trying to
convince a big theatre to do a show we liked, we just did our own show with
people whose work we enjoyed? What if we cast people who were not only
great actors, but willing to take risks and perform parts they normally
wouldn’t get cast for? What if we created a room for comedy writers that
was welcoming, where they could collaborate on scripts rather than compete
for stage time? The group rented space for trade at Chez Poulet, a
warehouse in San Francisco’s mission district. They rehearsed, pooled their
resources, and on Valentine’s Day 2012 put on their very first show at
Stage Werx SF.

As of 2015, the group has moved to the East Bay, expanded its troupe to
include over 30 performers, directors, writers, and designers. Each show is
a collective effort with each member contributing to the performance from
its creation to final bow. Everyone works, everyone participates, everyone
has a seat at the comedy table with a focus on performances that celebrate
the Bay Area’s diversity, and create immersive comedic experiences with a
lean toward the theatrical.

3. How would you participate in and contribute to the Omni?

THE MESS would like to be the house performance troupe at The Omni Commons.
To us that would mean participating in open houses, community outreach and
any other collective activity that The Omni hosts. We would also have
representatives participate in improving/repairing the Ballroom Space, the
Disco Room, and helping to maintain the other common spaces. THE MESS would
also host workshops, classes, and performances at The Omni to increase
interest and appreciation for the space itself and for the collectives that
call the Omni home.

4. How does your collective support itself financially? What would you be
able to afford in rent?

THE MESS sells tickets to each show at the rate of $15 plus (sliding
scale). Our ticket sales average 40- 60 people per performance. We plan to
use ticket sale revenue to help the Omni with its expenses. At present, we
can afford $300 per month total plus a share of the common expenses such as
utilities. If we are able to increase programing in 2016 (shows, workshops,
etc.), we would be able to discuss contributing more.

5. What are your space needs, especially for dedicated (locked or not
shared) space?

Ideally, we would like to steward, share and help improve and maintain the
Disco Room. Essentially, our typical needs are average 3 to 4 nights a week
in the evenings from approximately 6PM to 10PM.

In addition, we would volunteer to help coordinate the calendar for other
events that the Collective, Delegates and Commons wish to hold in the Disco
room. Improvements, we would like to build include a locked cabinet
(approx. 8 feet x 8 feet) in the Disco Room to store equipment, props, and
costumes.

Any other improvements we can help assist to support the Omni in renting
out the space to other groups in the community.

6. Statement of Solidarity
We, The Mess agree and are committed to the Omni Collective’s shared
political vision of more equitable communing of resources and meeting human
needs over private interests or corporate profit. If accepted as a member
collective, we promise to adhere to the Collectives’ solidarity and
anti-capitalist political perspective. The Mess has always and will
continue to practice openness, diversity and community through the arts and
in general practice.

7. Additional Information

https://www.facebook.com/EastBayMess/?fref=ts

http://sketchmess.com

mess.sketch@gmail.com

Renée LeVesque - Rabble Rouser - rmlevesque@gmail.com - Cell: 951.533.0508
Spencer Bainbridge - Head Writer
Sang S. Kim - Production Manager


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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 19:19:45 -0800
From: Matthew Senate <mattsenate@gmail.com>
To: "discuss@lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss@lists.omnicommons.org>,
        sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Friends of Goto to gather sat 1/9 @ 7pm
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Hey all,

Please join me this Saturday 1/9 at 7pm at Omni Commons to share and
reflect on the untimely passing of a good friend. I'd really like to
discuss informally with others some ways to respond to this situation in
our community.

For anyone who had the privilege to meet Goto during his brief visits to
Omni Commons and Sudo Room this fall, I have some sad news:

On November 14th of 2015, Goto and another person were found off the 101 in
Richardson Grove near Garberville. They had been ejected from a car that
came off the highway heading North. The highway patrol was unable to
identify which of the two men were driving and no criminal charges were
pursued. Goto was found deceased on the scene, the other person was
seriously injured and transferred to a hospital.

According to the Humboldt County Coroner I spoke with, this second person
was in a coma and probably did not come out of it. The CHP was not willing
/ able to provide me with any contact information of this other person or
their family, and I have been unable to proceed further on this thread.

I was also informed by the Coroner that there was alcohol found in the
blood of both victims. The CHP reported alcohol was found in the car as
well.

It is certainly unclear what exactly happened, what precisely led to this
crash, but regardless, this is a very sad tragedy, and most importantly,
Goto will be sorely missed.

For those that did not know him, you are very welcome to join and learn
about a dear friend and comrade who has left us in body, but not in spirit.

Love and solidarity,
Matt Senate
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 20:00:15 -0800
From: Ed Biow <biow@riseup.net>
To: sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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It sounds like kind of a noisy, hellish place, what with the server
noise, the claustrophobia, to say nothing of the high density of geeks,
but I guess I'm pretty well insulated so I'm failing to see the charm.
That typed, I do have a truck for transport, and a few spare tarps left
over from Occupy as well as some spare lights and power strips that
would be required to make such a place semi-habitable.  Give me a holler
if and when you want this to happen.

Ed

On 01/03/2016 08:14 PM, sudo-discuss-request@lists.sudoroom.org wrote:
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2016 20:14:15 -0800
> From: "danarauz@gmail.com" <danarauz@gmail.com>
> To: Max B <maxb.personal@gmail.com>
> Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
> Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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>
> -about making a box there: keep in mind that the servers-appliances noise
> may be annoying after awhile.
>
> -however, i have two wood 4'x8' lattices for donation if wanted. sample
> image attached.
>
> -all i ask is for someone with a truck/van to be pick up (in san rafael)
> though. -i cannot carry them in my little car otherwise I would offer
> deliver as well.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 7:19 PM, Max B <maxb.personal@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is a lot of mesh stuff up there as well as the server/network
>> infrastructure. I'd want one of the mesh folks to be around for cleaning if
>> possible.
>>
>> On January 3, 2016 6:23:11 PM PST, Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:
>>
>>> we are all starving for a warm place to hack, and sudoroom attendance is
>>> reduced for obvious reasons.
>>>
>>> what we need is a warm room to hack, and i propose the following:
>>>
>>> we tarp above the server balcony of sudoroom, and seal the whole thing
>>> like a room.  To enter from the steps you have to pull back a magnetically
>>> sealed thing or maybe we can make a hinged door thing, i don't know.
>>>
>>> all the heat from the servers (and people hacking in there) will be
>>> conserved and it will be social in addition to being warm.
>>> I have some lighting that might be appropriate, to help people feel like
>>> they're in the sun, as well as providing warmth.
>>>
>>> also it will be a nice chance to clean up that area and move things around
>>> and make it a hacking zone again.
>>>
>>> HOW CAN I HELP?
>>>
>>> if you have tarps or sail material or blankets or rope or anything you
>>> think could be used to close off the
>>> area, let's talk about it to see if
>>> it will work.  If you bring it in on your own I hope you install it too -
>>> it might take some carpentry or something to have places to attach it.
>>> I think the ceiling should be about 10' high, or whatever it takes to
>>> enclose the eastern shelves up there and securely seal to the wall.
>>>
>>> if you know what any of the stuff is upstairs, and think you can clean up
>>> or move things elsewhere, please do that.  We have a lot of printers and I
>>> don't know which ones are good or bad, and there are a lot of stereo
>>> systems and computers up there that maybe need to be put back into
>>> inventory, or put in the e-waste pile.
>>>
>>> also it's really dirty and dusty up there, so if you know where is a
>>> vacuum and/or brooms/dustpans please help get it clean up there.
>>>
>>> please write back if you think this is a good idea.
>>>
>>> -jake
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2016 13:23:20 -0800
From: Hilary Naylor <hnaylor@gmail.com>
To: SudoRoom <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Do you have an awesome project?
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Hi Sudoers,

I'm a trustee for the Bay Area chapter of the Awesome Foundation, and every
month we give $1000 to an awesome project. Art, whimsy, social endeavors...
See what we think is awesome at the link below. There's an easy
six-question application and no reporting requirements or strings attached
with the grant.

http://www.awesomefoundation.org/en/chapters/sf

Are you doing something awesome? Do you know someone who is? Tell them to
apply!
And feel free to send this out to any liststervs of awesome people.

Thanks,
Hilary
for The Awesome Foundation
sf@awesomefoundation.org
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www.a2zed.us
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 18:34:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
To: Hol Gaskill <hol@gaskill.com>
Cc: sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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> i forget, is polyisocyanurate super fire retardant or super flammable? 
> would be good to span the 8' without any other support.  otherwise the
> 1.5" styrofoam with 2x2 "studs" should work well.

It appears that it is fire retardant for our purposes, however, if the
balcony under it were to catch fire, and the polyisocyanurate were caught
up in the conflagration, you would want to leave to avoid breathing the
fumes from the superheated polyisocyanurate as they would be toxic.

But I think we should use transparent material for the north and west
sides, so that the space is visually inclusive.  I can bring in
large single-pane windows and we can stick it all together.

-jake

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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2016 10:58:16 -0800
From: hol@gaskill.com
To: sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
Subject: [sudo-discuss] TAZ status?
Message-ID: <3bdc9eac1a1cfcaa7997834840118178@gaskill.com>
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I was over there for the first time in a while yesterday and noticed the
taz sitting lonely on the ground.  Is it working or does it need some
TLC?


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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:29:55 -0800
From: Marc Juul <juul@labitat.dk>
To: Hol Gaskill <hol@gaskill.com>
Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] TAZ status?
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On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:58 AM, <hol@gaskill.com> wrote:

> I was over there for the first time in a while yesterday and noticed the
> taz sitting lonely on the ground.  Is it working or does it need some TLC?
>

Last I heard someone was complaining that the extruder was having trouble.
If someone wants to fix it up I'm willing to pitch in some $ for parts.

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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 11:45:01 -0800
From: Morgan Allen <morganrallen@gmail.com>
To: Marc Juul <juul@labitat.dk>
Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] TAZ status?
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I think there is also another over all problem. When I was trying to use
the Type-A machine
there was a intermittent popping sound. I read this is caused by the PLA
absorbing moisture from the air. In the long run we should build a storage
box with silica gel in it or similar.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Marc Juul <juul@labitat.dk> wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:58 AM, <hol@gaskill.com> wrote:
>
>> I was over there for the first time in a while yesterday and noticed the
>> taz sitting lonely on the ground.  Is it working or does it need some TLC?
>>
>
> Last I heard someone was complaining that the extruder was having trouble.
> If someone wants to fix it up I'm willing to pitch in some $ for parts.
>
> --
> marc/juul
>
> _______________________________________________
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> sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 12:13:58 -0800
From: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd@gmail.com>
To: Morgan Allen <morganrallen@gmail.com>
Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] TAZ status?
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Yeah, both PLA and ABS are somewhat moisture sensitive, which is why
filament is typically shipped in sealed plastic.

I figured someone surely must have posted a solution on Thingiverse, and
found this beauty:

Moisture-free filament spool container / holder
<http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:457359>


Didn't we have an entire cardboard box full of expired silica gel inserts
at one time? Those can be easily regenerated by heating them in an oven or
microwave.

Patrik

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Morgan Allen <morganrallen@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I think there is also another over all problem. When I was trying to use
> the Type-A machine
> there was a intermittent popping sound. I read this is caused by the PLA
> absorbing moisture from the air. In the long run we should build a storage
> box with silica gel in it or similar.
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Marc Juul <juul@labitat.dk> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:58 AM, <hol@gaskill.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I was over there for the first time in a while yesterday and noticed the
>>> taz sitting lonely on the ground.  Is it working or does it need some TLC?
>>>
>>
>> Last I heard someone was complaining that the extruder was having
>> trouble. If someone wants to fix it up I'm willing to pitch in some $ for
>> parts.
>>
>> --
>> marc/juul
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>> sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>
>>
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 16:22:55 -0500
From: Adam <adam@aperture.systems>
To: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
Cc: Sudo room <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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"Mr. Buddy" portable propane heaters are safe to use in tents /
enclosed spaces, and cost $99.
-^-^-^-^-^-
Adam Munich - Builder of wild things (and organizations)
Tel: +1-650-452-0554

One must learn by doing, for though you think you know, you have no
certainty until you try. The key to mastering any skill is nothing
more than passion and persistence.


On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 9:34 PM, Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:
>> i forget, is polyisocyanurate super fire retardant or super flammable?
>> would be good to span the 8' without any other support.  otherwise the 1.5"
>> styrofoam with 2x2 "studs" should work well.
>
>
> It appears that it is fire retardant for our purposes, however, if the
> balcony under it were to catch fire, and the polyisocyanurate were caught up
> in the conflagration, you would want to leave to avoid breathing the fumes
> from the superheated polyisocyanurate as they would be toxic.
>
> But I think we should use transparent material for the north and west sides,
> so that the space is visually inclusive.  I can bring in large single-pane
> windows and we can stick it all together.
>
> -jake
>
> _______________________________________________
> sudo-discuss mailing list
> sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>


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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 16:22:54 -0800
From: Morgan Allen <morganrallen@gmail.com>
To: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd@gmail.com>
Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] TAZ status?
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Oh, I wasn't aware ABS was prone to moisture problems also.

Plastic storage bin looks like a good solution

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 12:13 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yeah, both PLA and ABS are somewhat moisture sensitive, which is why
> filament is typically shipped in sealed plastic.
>
> I figured someone surely must have posted a solution on Thingiverse, and
> found this beauty:
>
> Moisture-free filament spool container / holder
> <http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:457359>
>
>
> Didn't we have an entire cardboard box full of expired silica gel inserts
> at one time? Those can be easily regenerated by heating them in an oven or
> microwave.
>
> Patrik
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Morgan Allen <morganrallen@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I think there is also another over all problem. When I was trying to use
>> the Type-A machine
>> there was a intermittent popping sound. I read this is caused by the PLA
>> absorbing moisture from the air. In the long run we should build a storage
>> box with silica gel in it or similar.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Marc Juul <juul@labitat.dk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 10:58 AM, <hol@gaskill.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was over there for the first time in a while yesterday and noticed
>>>> the taz sitting lonely on the ground.  Is it working or does it need some
>>>> TLC?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Last I heard someone was complaining that the extruder was having
>>> trouble. If someone wants to fix it up I'm willing to pitch in some $ for
>>> parts.
>>>
>>> --
>>> marc/juul
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> sudo-discuss mailing list
>>> sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
>>> https://sudoroom.org/lists/listinfo/sudo-discuss
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2016 02:14:59 -0800
From: Marc Juul <juul@labitat.dk>
To: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] a warm place to hack
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On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:

> we are all starving for a warm place to hack, and sudoroom attendance is
> reduced for obvious reasons.
>
> what we need is a warm room to hack, and i propose the following:
>
> we tarp above the server balcony of sudoroom, and seal the whole thing
> like a room.  To enter from the steps you have to pull back a magnetically
> sealed thing or maybe we can make a hinged door thing, i don't know.
>
> all the heat from the servers (and people hacking in there) will be
> conserved and it will be social in addition to being warm.
> I have some lighting that might be appropriate, to help people feel like
> they're in the sun, as well as providing warmth.
>
> also it will be a nice chance to clean up that area and move things around
> and make it a hacking zone again.
>
> HOW CAN I HELP?
>
> if you have tarps or sail material or blankets or rope or anything you
> think could be used to close off the area, let's talk about it to see if it
> will work.  If you bring it in on your own I hope you install it too - it
> might take some carpentry or something to have places to attach it.
> I think the ceiling should be about 10' high, or whatever it takes to
> enclose the eastern shelves up there and securely seal to the wall.
>
> if you know what any of the stuff is upstairs, and think you can clean up
> or move things elsewhere, please do that.  We have a lot of printers and I
> don't know which ones are good or bad, and there are a lot of stereo
> systems and computers up there that maybe need to be put back into
> inventory, or put in the e-waste pile.
>
> also it's really dirty and dusty up there, so if you know where is a
> vacuum and/or brooms/dustpans please help get it clean up there.
>
> please write back if you think this is a good idea.
>

That area is not very large, especially with the servers. Only 4-5 people
would fit up there, and we do need a place for servers, printers,
laminators and that kinda stuff. If you want to clean stuff out maybe start
by removing the radio gear you dumped in the big wire rack. The mesh and
server area stuff is actually reasonably organized and being used, so I'd
like to not move that somewhere else and the servers should have _more_
room around them so people can actually get to them.

If you want a small heated space to hack in sudo then CCL is getting one of
these (and I'm pretty sure we don't need it):
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005EG3FFM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00

We could also just get a bunch of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA08C14J2030

Which would solve the problem for anyone sitting down and anyone not
sitting down usually won't have a problem.

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