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On Feb 28, 2013 11:53 PM, "Anon195714" <anon195714@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> Yo's-
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> I stayed away from certain protests because it was known that Black Bloc (who are not black and are not from around the block) would be stirring up shit.
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Black bloc is a tactic, not a group. Individuals of many races and many ideologies use the tactic to accomplish a variety of goals.
> Their tactic boils down to: infiltrate someone else's protest, then provoke the cops into over-reacting and hurting innocent protesters, and then try to use the police over-reaction as an excuse to stir up The Revolution. I call that "revolution over _someone else's_ dead body," and yeah it's basically cowardly.
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The police will do so regardless. Occupy Oakland was attacked by police before the traffic was used.
> I guarantee, with 100% certainty, that there is at least one deliberate infiltrator/provocateur in Black Bloc, whose real goal is to destroy the effectiveness of various movements & protests in the Bay Area. The rest of 'em, who do it for the jollies, are basically provocateur scabs, working for free and thereby undercutting the wages that might otherwise be paid to professional provocateurs.
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lolwut
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> On 13-02-28-Thu 7:41 PM, Andrew wrote:
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>> Understod. I wasn't responding to you posting this, just the message itself which was probablly the result of a propaganda campeign by the OPD sent out to bussiness owners.
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>> I feel like someone has to respond to that stuff because of how twisted the facts and tone are.
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>> Thanks,
>> Andrew
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>> On Feb 28, 2013 6:42 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Yeah, sorry, didn't mean to incite any fear! Just passing on the message for transparency so y'all are aware of the temperature of our landlords. That said, please do remember to close doors behind you when entering and exiting the building, *always and especially* if you go out the front (Broadway-side) door or down the stairs to the side door (the door to the stairs). Otherwise alarms go off and George calls and yells at me/sudoers :)
>>> Jenny
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>>> "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
>>> -Laurie Anderson
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>>> "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining it."
>>> -Hannah Arendt
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>>> -Stéphane Mallarmé
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>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Andrew <andrew@roshambomedia.com> wrote:
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>>>> so many things to say about this. but I really don't want this to turn into a black-bloc flame war. But, let me just say if this sounds strangely like a fear tactic and until reading this you never thought to feel personally threatened by the mythical black-bloc group.. there's a reason, cause it's mostly BS. The Oscar Grant riot was a bunch of people without mask looting stuff... this hasn't happened once during the occupy movement.
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>>>> I just hope this doesn't scare anyone away from being downtown after the 9pm shut down. We don't have a curfew!
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>>>> --Andrew
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>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:54 PM, Leonid Kozhukh <len@ligertail.com> wrote:
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>>>>> well, the 11pm shut down doesnt seem to make sense considering this says the party is 7-10pm...
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>>>>> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 5:47 PM, Andrew <andrew@roshambomedia.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> Or http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2013/02/01/18731134.php
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>>>>>> On Feb 28, 2013 5:19 PM, "Jenny Ryan" <tunabananas@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>> Notice from the landlord regarding tomorrow's First Friday event and new guidelines posted by the City of Oakland.
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>>>>>>> TL;DR:
>>>>>>> -Laurie and George (the landlords) are asking that meetings disperse by 11pm, and that all doors be locked.
>>>>>>> -OPD will be setting up a mobile command post on Telegraph & W Grand
>>>>>>> -No First Friday events allowed south of W Grand
>>>>>>> -Event ends at 9pm with a moment of silence
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>> From: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop@comcast.net>
>>>>>>> Date: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 2:17 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: URGENT TO ALL TENANTS!!! First Friday Tomorrow Night....URGENT....PLEASE READ CAREFULLY
>>>>>>> To: Laurie Cooperman Rosen <Lscoop@comcast.net>
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>>>>>>> http://www.eastbayexpress.com/oakland/how-the-black-bloc-occupied-oakland/Co
>>>>>>> ntent?oid=3036670
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>>>>>>> The flier above (pdf) are guidelines for tomorrow night's First Friday Event
>>>>>>> in lieu of expected potential violence from the group listed in the web site
>>>>>>> above. Apparently at sites (unknown to me) this black bloc group has been
>>>>>>> advocating that people come out en mass and cause trouble after First Friday
>>>>>>> is over. We are asking that groups meeting in the building disburse by
>>>>>>> 11pm and that all doors, esp. doors to Broadway, 22nd Street and the Alley
>>>>>>> behind out of 2135, as well as the gate into the front entrance of 2135, be
>>>>>>> securely locked by this time. George will be there at that time to convince
>>>>>>> all to leave the building and he will secure it.
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>>>>>>> Groups or individuals not adhering to this warning and coming back to the
>>>>>>> building after that time may find themselves responsible not only for
>>>>>>> damages to their persons but damage done to the building or others.
>>>>>>> This is a serious issue; even the Security Ambassadors are being asked to go
>>>>>>> home by midnight for their own personal safety, and there is no expectation
>>>>>>> that the police will have enough personnel on the streets should this get
>>>>>>> out of hand.
>>>>>>> Many of you were not there a few years ago during the (Oscar Grant)
>>>>>>> riots....it was not pretty, and there WAS damage to our property. Trouble
>>>>>>> is NOT expected early in the evening. Enjoy yourselves, but try to monitor
>>>>>>> alcohol consumption (your own and those around you) for the safety of all
>>>>>>> tomorrow evening...and get home early....and SAFELY!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Laurie & George
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