way to turn the tables - probably not.  "I see you've got a busted headlight... *SMASH* Tail light's busted too"

Feb 3, 2014 10:20:58 AM, andrew@roshambomedia.com wrote:
Personally, I don't think the discussion should be about whether or not these schools have merrit. What about the "California Bureau for Private Postsecondary Education" ( http://www.bppe.ca.gov/ ) which has existed for less than 4 years now. Does it really have merrit? What are the regulations, and is this really worth having another california berucracy that makes it even harded to open up bussiness here?
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>--Andrew
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>On Fri, Jan 31, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Romy Ilano romy@snowyla.com> wrote:
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>Well to play devil's advocate:
>creative, qusetioning students with computer science skills are valued by the industrialists nowadays. They actually seek out people who are a little rebellious.


>I read that some of the more innovative Chinese high schools are ditching standardized tests, encuraging more creative education, as they see it as their only ticket to becoming an economy on the high end of the value chain (more creative, more design-focused)


>What if the evil capitalists support a more intelliectual, creative education free of rote education?
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Outside of the narrow regulatory question, this reminds me of another
>relating to the vocationalization of programming to supply commoditized
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labor to large corporations, which is something I am uneasy around and
>which I think reflects a shifting power balance that deserves to be
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opposed. Here is a line of criticism that I think is right on, running from
>Seymour Papert to Bret Victor to
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thishttp://programmingisterrible.com/post/73056840109/paperts-dreams-and-our-grim-meathook-reality>

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>*"In ?Meanwhile, at code.org http://worrydream.com/MeanwhileAtCodeOrg/>?,

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Bret juxtaposes the ideals of Seymour Papert and the dreams of
>entrepreneurs and venture capitalists. Papert wanted to use programming as
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a way to let children explore powerful ideas and let their imagination run
>wild. The agenda of the political, wealthy, and powerful is to build a new
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generation of worker bees to fuel their startups. One sees code as a
>liberation, and the other as a vocation..."*
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