On Mar 11, 2015 4:58 PM, "Jake" <jake@spaz.org> wrote:

I received the lights linked below, and they were only 5.5 watts instead of "16-20 watts" so i opened a dispute and asked for 66% of my our money back.

Anyway, we now have eight highly directional LED lights, four warm and four cold, 5.5 watts each.

-jake

On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 1:17 AM, Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:

      I looked on Ali Express and sorted by customer satisfaction, looking for LED lighting in "downlights" which suggests
      lamps shining downward?

      these look good but the seller rating is only 97.4%:
      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Aluminum-9W-15W-21W-27W-45W-LED-Downlight-Ceiling-lights-lamp-AC85-265V-With/2027740342.html

      they seem to be "16 to 21" watts for $6.95 including shipping.  They offer "warm" and "cold" flavors so we could just get a mix of the two kinds, for
      something in the middle when they're all on.

      here is the search i was doing:

      http://www.aliexpress.com/category/200002289/led-downlights.html?site=glo&isrefine=y&shipCountry=US&SortType=total_weight_score_desc

      this one is also a good price, and the seller rating is higher (98.1%)
      http://www.aliexpress.com/item/21W-Antifogging-Epistar-led-downlight-AC85-265V-Contains-the-drive-power-free-shipping/2047334906.html

      ultimately i have higher confidence in the quality of something we buy from Cree at Home Despot, but I think we should give China a chance and buy a few
      of the "16 to 21 watt" ones and see how they compare.

      For reference, Cree (a reputable company) and other LED bulbs sold at Home Despot are called "60 watt replacement" bulbs while actually using 9 to 11
      watts.  The light fixtures presently in Sudoroom and CCL each have two 75-watt flourescent bulbs, for a total of 900 watts of light in the bocce ball
      room when they're all working.

      That suggests that 150 watts of LED lighting would be equivalent, which would cost about $60 from the first aliexpress link i provided.

      These lights just have wires coming out, so we would perhaps attach them onto the metal structures that are presently holding flourescent lights for
      simplicity, until we come up with something better.

      -jake
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