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1. Re: FW: The White House Announces a Week of Making this June
12-18 (Rachel Wolfsohn)
2. Re: FW: The White House Announces a Week of Making this June
12-18 (Mitch Altman)
3. Re: major purge of machine tools, hand tools, necessary and
unnecessary stuff - Saturday 10 to 4 (fwd) (Patrik D'haeseleer)
4. Re: Arduino Bootloader on the ESP8266 (Cere Mona Davis)
5. Re: Arduino Bootloader on the ESP8266 (Rachel Wolfsohn)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2015 14:08:30 -0700
From: Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana@gmail.com>
To: Cere Misc <cere.misc@gmail.com>
Cc: Sudo-Discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>, NoiseBridge
Discuss <noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] FW: The White House Announces a Week of
Making this June 12-18
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I agree with you both! It compartmEntalizes us, and dulls our fire to forget
that...I'd be down, I'm not scared. I think such missing essence is every reason
to bring it there!
But to what end? What would ones function be there?
On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Cere Misc < cere.misc@gmail.com [cere.misc@gmail.com] > wrote:
I assume the A is for Art? If so, I agree that too much is left out without it.
Yes, would be cool to "be involved", but I have the same reservations as you.
-Cere
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Mitch Altman < maltman23@hotmail.com [maltman23@hotmail.com] > wrote:
Does someone at Noisebridge and/or Sudo Room want to be part of the National
Week of Making?
If so, there's a link at the bottom of the email from the White House (copied
below), but which I'll add here, too:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/nation-of-makers
[https://www.whitehouse.gov/nation-of-makers]
I think it would be really cool to be "officially" involved. But there are two
things that make me uncomfortable:
1) "STEM" is a term created by the US military -- it leaves out the very
important "A", which many have added to make it more relevant, and moves things
away from the military: STEAM
2) There is involvement from various government agencies, many of which are
cool, but one of which is: Department of Homeland Security.
Best,
Mitch.
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DATE: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:07:12 +0000
FROM: Santoso, Stephanie <Stephanie_M_Santoso@ostp.eop.gov> [Stephanie_M_Santoso@ostp.eop.gov]
TO: Mitch Altman
Hi All,
I wanted to make sure that you saw the following exciting news about the Week of
Making and the National Maker Faire!
Announcing a Week of Making this June 12-18
By Tom Kalil and Stephanie Santoso
Last year, on June 18, President Obama hosted the first-ever White House Maker Faire [http://www.whitehouse.gov/maker-faire] and issued a call to action that ?every company, every college, every
community, every citizen joins us as we lift up makers and builders and doers
across the country.? By democratizing the tools and skills necessary to design
and make just about anything, Maker-related events and activities can inspire
more people to pursue careers in design, advanced manufacturing, and the related
fields of science, technology, engineering and mathematics (STEM) and possibly
take their creations to the next level and become entrepreneurs.
Today, in preparation of the one-year anniversary of last year?s Faire, we are
excited to announce that the White House will celebrate a ?Week of Making? this
summer from June 12-18. The Week will coincide with the National Maker Faire
here in D.C., featuring makers from across the country and will include
participation by federal agencies including: the Department of Education,
National Science Foundation, U.S. Agency for International Development, U.S.
Small Business Administration, Institute of Museum and Library Services,
National Institute of Standards and Technology, NASA, Corporation for National
and Community Service, Department of Homeland Security and the Smithsonian.
At last year?s Faire, President Obama welcomed people of all ages who are
funneling their ingenuity into amazing projects, developing creative solutions
to important problems and bringing their innovations to market. He met Lindsay
Lawlor, who built a 17-foot, talking robotic giraffe named Russell, and he met
teenage sisters Camille and Genevieve Betty, whose motto is ?Who needs a paper
route when you can start your own robotics company?? He talked to entrepreneurs
such as Marc Roth, who was homeless in San Francisco before taking classes in
design and prototyping at a digital fabrication studio and maker space. After
only several months of classes, Marc was able to open his own custom
laser-cutting business. As the President put it, ?Today?s D.I.Y is tomorrow?s
Made in America.?
[https://cloudmagic.com/b/v6/attachment/download?method=cstream&resource_id=%5B%22a%22%2C3%2C%22i%22%2C17221%2C%22m%22%2C%22%5BGmail%5D%2FAll%20Mail%22%2C%22v%22%2C11%5D&account_id=3&sub_resource_id=1.2&name=ATT00001&cte=base64&cty=IMAGE%2FJPEG&disp=inline&gmail_msg_id=1498009847911791041&ct=pa&cv=6.1.28&pv=4.4.4%26ln%3Den]
Lindsay Lawlor introduces President Obama to Russell, the Electric Giraffe at
last year?s White House Maker Faire. (Photo Credit: Pete Souza).
The President announced a large number of commitments
[http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2014/06/18/fact-sheet-president-obama-host-first-ever-white-house-maker-faire] made by the Federal government, mayors, educational institutions, companies,
and non-profit organizations to expand opportunities for engaging students STEM
through making, supporting makers who want to become entrepreneurs and make it
easier for individuals to learn 21 st century design and fabrication skills around the country. Twenty-one Federal
agencies committed a suite of services for people interested in engineering and
manufacturing, including expanded access to start-up grants, making it easier
for makers to manufacture their products domestically, and business mentoring
and training. More than 150 colleges and universities, over 125 libraries and
more than 90 mayors pledged to take steps to help advance making in the United
States.
To continue to expand upon this effort, here are some ways that you or your
organization can help:
? Individuals can volunteer to mentor and share their skills by hosting workshops
or classes in areas of their community that have fewer opportunities for
designing, developing and prototyping projects.
? K-12 school districts can create opportunities for interactive, hands-on STEM learning
[https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/01/12/new-resource-bringing-making-education] in and outside of the classroom. Schools can also establish maker spaces to
empower students to design and build, and solve real-world problems.
? Colleges and universities can establish on-campus spaces
[https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/12/11/making-makers-cleveland] that are accessible to students, faculty and the broader local community to
tinker, design, build and invent. They can share best practices with other
educational institutions through networks and communities of practice
[http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/12/10/higher-education-institutions-respond-president-s-call-support-making-college-campus] .
? Companies can encourage making in their community through design and
engineering and help designers, inventors and other aspiring entrepreneurs
[https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/manufacturing_and_innovation_report.pdf] create American jobs by navigating the transition from prototyping to
manufacturing.
? Mayors can join the Mayors Maker Challenge
[https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/05/15/challenging-mayors-help-make-difference] and encourage companies, foundations, non-profits, schools, libraries and
museums to get involved with product development and manufacturing. Local
leaders can also back initiatives that make it easier for entrepreneurs to
manufacture their products locally.
And no matter who you are, you can get involved by hosting an event, workshop or
activity during the Week of Making in your community or submit your project for
the National Maker Faire.
By working together, we can provide every child and adult in America with the
tools, technologies and resources they need to be part of the creative process
and invent, create, and make a better, stronger, and more innovative future.
If you or your organization has plans to support students, inventors, designers,
builders and other makers in your community, let us know by completing this form [https://www.whitehouse.gov/nation-of-makers] . We look forward to announcing progress on the President?s call to action
during the Week of Making. You may also contact us at maker@ostp.gov [maker@ostp.gov] .
Tom Kalil is Deputy Director for Technology and Innovation at the White House
Office of Science and Technology Policy.
Stephanie Santoso is Senior Advisor for Making at the White House Office of
Science and Technology Policy.
Stephanie Santoso
Senior Policy Advisor for Making
White House Office of Science and Technology Policy
ssantoso@ostp.eop.gov [ssantoso@ostp.eop.gov]
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 14:27:45 -0700
From: Mitch Altman <maltman23@hotmail.com>
To: Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana@gmail.com>, Cere Misc
<cere.misc@gmail.com>
Cc: Sudo-Discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>, NoiseBridge
Discuss <noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] FW: The White House Announces a Week of
Making this June 12-18
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"There" is wherever you decide to be part of it, since this isn't location-specific. To be "officially" involved, just fill out the form at:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/nation-of-makers
Best,
Mitch.
From: rawjnana@gmail.com
To: cere.misc@gmail.com
CC: maltman23@hotmail.com; sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org; noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] FW: The White House Announces a Week of Making this June 12-18
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 14:08:30 -0700
I agree with you both! It compartmEntalizes us, and dulls our fire to forget that...I'd be down, I'm not scared. I think such missing essence is every reason to bring it there!
But to what end? What would ones function be there?
On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 2:05 PM, Cere Misc <cere.misc@gmail.com> wrote:
I assume the A is for Art? If so, I agree that too much is left out without it. Yes, would be cool to "be involved", but I have the same reservations as you.
-Cere
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Mitch Altman <maltman23@hotmail.com> wrote:
Does someone at Noisebridge and/or Sudo Room want to be part of the National Week of Making?
If so, there's a link at the bottom of the email from the White House (copied below), but which I'll add here, too:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/nation-of-makers
I think it would be really cool to be "officially" involved. But there are two things that make me uncomfortable:
1) "STEM" is a term created by the US military -- it leaves out the very important "A", which many have added to make it more relevant, and moves things away from the military: STEAM
2) There is involvement from various government agencies, many of which are cool, but one of which is: Department of Homeland Security.
Best,
Mitch.
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:
The White House Announces a Week of Making this June
12-18
Date:
Thu, 9 Apr 2015 17:07:12 +0000
From:
Santoso, Stephanie
<Stephanie_M_Santoso@ostp.eop.gov>
To:
Mitch Altman
Hi All,
I wanted to make sure that you saw the
following exciting news about the Week of Making and the
National Maker Faire!
Announcing a Week of Making
this June 12-18
By Tom Kalil and Stephanie
Santoso
Last year, on June 18,
President Obama hosted the first-ever
White House Maker Faire and issued a call to action
that ?every company, every college, every community, every
citizen joins us as we lift up makers and builders and doers
across the country.? By democratizing the tools and skills
necessary to design and make just about anything,
Maker-related events and activities can inspire more people
to pursue careers in design, advanced manufacturing, and the
related fields of science, technology, engineering and
mathematics (STEM) and possibly take their creations to the
next level and become entrepreneurs.
Today, in preparation of the
one-year anniversary of last year?s Faire, we are excited to
announce that the White House will celebrate a ?Week of
Making? this summer from June 12-18. The Week will coincide
with the National Maker Faire here in D.C., featuring makers
from across the country and will include participation by
federal agencies including: the Department of Education,
National Science Foundation, U.S. Agency for International
Development, U.S. Small Business Administration, Institute
of Museum and Library Services, National Institute of
Standards and Technology, NASA, Corporation for National and
Community Service, Department of Homeland Security and the
Smithsonian.
At last year?s Faire,
President Obama welcomed people of all ages who are
funneling their ingenuity into amazing projects, developing
creative solutions to important problems and bringing their
innovations to market. He met Lindsay Lawlor, who built a
17-foot, talking robotic giraffe named Russell, and he met
teenage sisters Camille and Genevieve Betty, whose motto is
?Who needs a paper route when you can start your own
robotics company?? He talked to entrepreneurs such as Marc
Roth, who was homeless in San Francisco before taking
classes in design and prototyping at a digital fabrication
studio and maker space. After only several months of
classes, Marc was able to open his own custom laser-cutting
business. As the President put it, ?Today?s D.I.Y is
tomorrow?s Made in America.?
Lindsay Lawlor introduces
President Obama to Russell, the Electric Giraffe at last
year?s White House Maker Faire. (Photo Credit: Pete
Souza).
The President announced a
large number of
commitments made by the Federal
government, mayors, educational institutions, companies, and
non-profit organizations to expand opportunities for
engaging students STEM through making, supporting makers who
want to become entrepreneurs and make it easier for
individuals to learn 21st century design and
fabrication skills around the country. Twenty-one Federal
agencies committed a suite of services for people interested
in engineering and manufacturing, including expanded access
to start-up grants, making it easier for makers to
manufacture their products domestically, and business
mentoring and training. More than 150 colleges and
universities, over 125 libraries and more than 90 mayors
pledged to take steps to help advance making in the United
States.
To continue to expand upon
this effort, here are some ways that you or your
organization can help:
?
Individuals can volunteer to
mentor and share their skills by hosting workshops or
classes in areas of their community that have fewer
opportunities for designing, developing and prototyping
projects.
?
K-12 school districts can
create opportunities for
interactive, hands-on STEM
learning in and outside of the
classroom. Schools can also establish maker spaces to
empower students to design and build, and solve real-world
problems.
?
Colleges and universities can
establish
on-campus spaces that are accessible to
students, faculty and the broader local community to tinker,
design, build and invent. They can share best practices with
other educational institutions through
networks and communities of
practice.
?
Companies can encourage
making in their community through design and engineering and
help
designers, inventors and
other aspiring entrepreneurs create American jobs by
navigating the transition from prototyping to manufacturing.
?
Mayors can join the
Mayors Maker Challenge and encourage companies,
foundations, non-profits, schools, libraries and museums to
get involved with product development and manufacturing.
Local leaders can also back initiatives that make it easier
for entrepreneurs to manufacture their products locally.
And no matter who you are,
you can get involved by hosting an event, workshop or
activity during the Week of Making in your community or
submit your project for the National Maker Faire.
By working together, we can
provide every child and adult in America with the tools,
technologies and resources they need to be part of the
creative process and invent, create, and make a better,
stronger, and more innovative future.
If you or your organization
has plans to support students, inventors, designers,
builders and other makers in your community, let us know by
completing this
form. We look forward to
announcing progress on the President?s call to action during
the Week of Making. You may also contact us at maker@ostp.gov.
Tom Kalil is Deputy Director for
Technology and Innovation at the White House Office of
Science and Technology Policy.
Stephanie Santoso is Senior Advisor
for Making at the White House Office of Science and
Technology Policy.
Stephanie Santoso
Senior Policy Advisor for Making
White House Office of Science and
Technology Policy
ssantoso@ostp.eop.gov
_______________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 2015 15:30:49 -0700
From: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd@gmail.com>
To: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] major purge of machine tools, hand tools,
necessary and unnecessary stuff - Saturday 10 to 4 (fwd)
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Dang - that's some nice gear! I see "Scientific glassware" listed, but no
pics - so that could be just about anything. Will try to drop by on
Saturday.
Patrik
On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/gms/4970294855.html
>
> Unused & used wrenches by: Snap-On, Armstrong, Proto, Fairmount, Bonney
> Thin Pattern Hydraulic Wrenches up to 2 1/4"
> 12-Point Flare Nut Wrenches up to 1 3/16"
> Crows Foot Wrenches (12-Point and standard) up to 2 1/4"
>
> Maggi Junior 640 Radial Arm Saw 4 h.p. (220v/3ph)
> J & L Optical Comparator TC-10 with multiple stages
> Sunnen Honing Machine MBH-625D
> Avey Sensitive Drill Press Model #1/2 Heavy MA-8 (220v/3ph)
> Omni Grind 6x12 surface grinder (220v/3ph)
> Variable Frequency Drives (AC Tech, MC Series)
> Gorton Pantograph Roll Engraving Attachments (750-1 & 727-1)
> Gorton Tool & Cutter Grinder (265-6)
> Gorton Pantograph Spindle
> Gorton Collets
> Machine collets
> Dumore Drill Grinder (model 8192) with 90 bushings in wooden case
> Sensitive Gang Drill
> Buffing motors
>
> Niagara circle cutter (68" swing)
> Buffalo Forge No. 8 Angle & Tee Cutter
>
> Simpson Strong Tie components
>
> New Light Switches
> New Plugs & Receptacles
> New Cover Plates
> New Electrical boxes
> New Conduit fittings
> 4" & 6" Ceiling Cans
> Fused machine safety switches
>
> Hydraulic fittings
> Pipe fittings
>
> Scientific glassware
>
> Motors:
> 5 H.P. 220v/3ph unused
> 3 H.P. 180v DC
> plus others
>
> Free stuff & odd stuff
>
> From: David Cole <david@run-stop.com>
> Date: April 8, 2015 at 7:50:23 PM PDT
> Subject: major purge of machine tools, hand tools, necessary and
> unnecessary stuff - Saturday 10 to 4
>
> I moved 60,000 pounds of equipment from Detroit several years ago and it?s
> finally time to get rid of some of it.
>
> Everything is priced to move and some stuff is free. Saturday 10-4 at my
> studio: 4126 Martin Luther King, Jr. Way, Oakland.
>
> Please pass this along to anyone who may be interested
>
> craigslist post:
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/gms/4970294855.html
>
> I hope to see you there,
> David Cole
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 07:39:22 -0700
From: Cere Mona Davis <ceremona@gmail.com>
To: Adam Munich <adam@aperture.systems>
Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>, NoiseBridge
Discuss <noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Arduino Bootloader on the ESP8266
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Just getting into the teensy these days... If this WiFi board is arduino
compatible does that mean its Teensy compatible?
On Apr 1, 2015 9:28 PM, "Adam Munich" <adam@aperture.systems> wrote:
> Someone managed to cram the arduino bootloader on the ESP8266
>
>
> https://makezine.com/2015/04/01/esp8266-5-microcontroller-wi-fi-now-arduino-compatible/
>
> Yup. $3 wifi arduino. $1.50 in aliexpress bulk.
>
> So who's going to wifi-mesh all of oakland?
>
>
>
>
> ---
> Aperture Systems: Redefining Radiography - http://aperture.systems/
> http://adammunich.com/ - Cell: +1-650-452-0554
>
> Be ? knowledgeable ? social ? patient ? fearless ? compassionate ?
> fun ? humble ? forgiving.
>
> Be a leader
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 09:54:13 -0700
From: Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana@gmail.com>
To: Cere Mona Davis <ceremona@gmail.com>
Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>, NoiseBridge
Discuss <noisebridge-discuss@lists.noisebridge.net>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Arduino Bootloader on the ESP8266
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Yes, it should be...It should run the same programming and everything else :)
just check basics- voltage, output type, etc...you know
(& you're supposed to be able to use the arduino IDE on Teensy but it didn't
work for me. I used Programming for it)
On Fri, Apr 10, 2015 at 7:39 AM, Cere Mona Davis < ceremona@gmail.com [ceremona@gmail.com] > wrote:
Just getting into the teensy these days... If this WiFi board is arduino
compatible does that mean its Teensy compatible?
On Apr 1, 2015 9:28 PM, "Adam Munich" <adam@aperture.systems> wrote:
Someone managed to cram the arduino bootloader on the ESP8266
https://makezine.com/2015/04/01/esp8266-5-microcontroller-wi-fi-now-arduino-compatible/
[https://makezine.com/2015/04/01/esp8266-5-microcontroller-wi-fi-now-arduino-compatible/]
Yup. $3 wifi arduino. $1.50 in aliexpress bulk.
So who's going to wifi-mesh all of oakland?
---
Aperture Systems: Redefining Radiography - http://aperture.systems/ [http://aperture.systems/]
http://adammunich.com/ [http://adammunich.com/] - Cell: +1-650-452-0554 [tel:%2B1-650-452-0554]
Be ? knowledgeable ? social ? patient ? fearless ? compassionate ?
fun ? humble ? forgiving.
Be a leader
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 11:31:01 -0700
From: Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana@gmail.com>
To: Sudo room <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>,
"discuss@lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss@lists.omnicommons.org>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Call for Auction Items!!! Help Fund sudo!
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sudo-ers of all realms!
This is a call for auction items!
Sudo's May-Day Fundraiser Party & Potluck will have an auction component
Whether you have something uber useful,
or something minimally prize-like
or an odd or end that could be someone's treasure
or a ridiculously rare thing-a-ma-bob
if you're willing or able to let it go,
let's auction it off to fund sudo!
*~~this will be a silent auction*
*~~you do not have to attend the party to participate in the auction*
To Auction An Item:
Please send rachel a brief description with as much of the following info
as you can:
*Item Name/Info*:*
*Est. Value*: *
*Minimum Value:*
*Special Details/Extras/Upgrades*:*
*Additional History and/or Use(s): *
(this last bit is for fun and learning!)
Yay sudo!
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<3 Rachel
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Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 11:29:21 -0700
From: Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss@gmail.com>
To: WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods@gmail.com>
Cc: "sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org"
<sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Today 4/4/15: Pidgen and Daren have been
temp banned for safer spaces policy violations
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I lurk on the sudo list and I like periodically reading these threads about
how you handle difficult people.
It's really interesting because most voluntary associations exclude people
they find difficult by informal and sort of secret means - participants
talk in groups of 2s and 3s, "gossip," a group consensus emerges that they
don't like someone, then they shut that person out by withholding
information about future social gatherings. Also, they avoid the problem in
the first place by being immediately hostile to whole categories of people
who strike them as eccentric.
Sudo room is different - it's more radically inclusive from the get, and
it's filled with people who are committed to consistent open processes. I
like reading to see how your process is the same and different from the
ordinary implicit process of social exclusion.
On Monday, April 6, 2015, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods@gmail.com> wrote:
> So I have known Darin for years and he has been called out for all of this
> behavior before and still hasn't learned. In terms of him misgendering me
> it seemed malicious because he accentuated " man" there were several
> witnesses to his extremely aggressive behavior that was a defensive
> response to me calmly asking why he was yelling at Babs. sexual harassment
> is not OK. I don't think you can speak for the other people who have called
> him out for inappropriate flirting. I had the conflict mediated by Joe but
> but still just acts the same to different people. I would propose a month
> ban at least so he gets that its not being accountable will have serious
> consequences.
>
> On Sunday, April 5, 2015, Rachel Wolfsohn <rawjnana@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rawjnana@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> This is the last email I will include sudodisxuss on for this thread...
>>
>> Darin is currently undergoing mediation, and should be given the chance
>> to do so before a ban goes through.
>>
>> I have a blocking concern for such a ban on darin....
>>
>> My belief that darin can change enough, however slowly, is justified and
>> potent.
>>
>> I have seen he already has. In front of me at least, he no longer
>> misgenders anyone, including those ppl he previously had, after we
>> discussed it one night. Even if he's pissed at them. An immediate
>> improvement from the heart and higher self layered under psychic shit like
>> we all have to deal with just like him, is what I see...He is actively
>> working, works hard in general and physically protects ppl from harassment
>> daily.
>>
>> Misgendering:
>> I too have been editing "he" for "them" with you Wildcat, because your
>> gender pronoun is recent news to me as well as to many others.
>> I strive to use They, bc of respect for trans identity in general, and
>> ALSO camaraderie with you.
>> But it takes a little time, and it is in good faith with continuous
>> editing on my part, as it is for others.
>> I'm really sorry you are hurt by misgendering and will do my best to
>> correct the instances I witness. As I'm sure Darin will too, now that this
>> information is available
>>
>> Sexual Language:
>> Darin is working on this too. I have twice hung out with darin and neded
>> to comment on his comments, asking him to hold his tongue, bc it was TMI
>> about his sexual thoughts.
>> It was not safe space language, and I asked him to.hold his tongue, but
>> not an implication of action either, more like expression.
>> Without FAIL he immediately apologizes and aims to hold back such
>> comments. He is actively learning what to reserve to his private thoughts
>> and I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart...
>>
>> Thus, I have a blocking.concern for this ban suggested for Darin
>>
>> Love, seriously, love,
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Torrie Fischer <
>> tdfischer@hackerbots.net> wrote:
>>
>> Theres community issues, then theres "issues that involve the hundreds of
>> people subscribed to sudo-discuss".
>>
>> This is not one of those issues. I have no involvement with this. I don't
>> want
>> to get involved with this. I'd honestly rather not hear about who is
>> fighting
>> who, or see people tearing down each other in public. I'd rather just
>> hack a
>> thing and assume that Sudo Room is a happy cheery place that has their
>> shit
>> together and everyone gets along.
>>
>> My ?0.02.
>>
>> On Saturday, April 04, 2015 03:37:39 PM WIld Cat wrote:
>> > These are community issues not personal issues.
>> >
>> > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:53 PM, Tracy Jacobs <kinetical@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>> > > Sudoers,
>> > >
>> > > Respectfully can I suggest that you find another way to address
>> issues of
>> > > a personal nature and character assassinations or public shaming other
>> > > than
>> > > this public mailing list? Why anyone would want to go to Sudo room
>> after
>> > > reading this mailing list is beyond my comprehension. And it really
>> is a
>> > > great place. Can anyone think of another venue for these types of
>> > > discussions?
>> > >
>> > > Tracy
>> > > On Apr 4, 2015, at 2:41 PM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Daren returned to the space about 20 mins after trying to re-enter and
>> > > said to me " Do you want to go a couplwe blocks away from here and
>> handle
>> > > this like an adult."
>> > >
>> > > Pidgen is claiming that I threatened her and I did tell her that "you
>> need
>> > > to chill out or some shit is going to happen" but I also clarified by
>> > > saying "I am not threatening you with any form of violence."
>> > >
>> > > Darin is claiming that Babs sexually assaulted someone but Darin did
>> not
>> > > give any details of what happened.
>> > >
>> > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 2:00 PM, WIld Cat <wildcatofthewoods@gmail.com
>> >
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >> Today Pidgen was asked to leave in violation of the safer spaces
>> policy
>> > >> on an admitted account of sexual assault in the past as well as
>> recent
>> > >> behaviors of harassment. Daren was asked to leave in violation of the
>> > >> safer
>> > >> spaces policy by aggressive behavior (aggressive swearing,
>> intentional
>> > >> misgendering, inappropriate sexual comments (Told me in an
>> aggressive way
>> > >> that he liked phone sex, than began to yell at me.) He has had a
>> history
>> > >> of
>> > >> being banned from spaces for similar behaviors of sexual harassment
>> and
>> > >> inappropriate behavior.
>> > >>
>> > >> I would like to begin a mediation process for Daren and I do not feel
>> > >> safe with him being in the space during such process.
>> > >>
>> > >> To my knowledge there is an ongoing mediation between Pidgen and
>> Centi.
>> > >> that Pidgen has allegedly violated due to harassing behavior. Pidgen
>> has
>> > >> been banned from several other radical spaces for entitlement
>> problems -
>> > >> theft - aggressive behaivor - accountability issues.
>> > >> I do not feel safe in the presences of Pidgen and would call on the
>> > >> community to permanently ban Pidgen.
>> > >
>> > > _______________________________________________
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>> > > sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
>> > > https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2015 23:07:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jake <jake@spaz.org>
To: sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
Subject: [sudo-discuss] sudo lights!
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Dana donated a spool of warm-white LED tape, and another spool of
addressible LED tape, to sudoroom.
looks like about 5 meters of each.. so where should we set them up?
the white LED tape is simple, it just turns on and lights, but the
addressible stuff will need to be connected to a microcontroller of some
kind to control it. Who will step up and do that? I can help with the
power supply and wiring if you do the software.
-jake
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 11:35:39 -0700
From: niki <niki.shelley@gmail.com>
To: Sudo room <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Seeking info about people recently asked to
leave
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I don't see any info in the wiki about a couple of people who were recently
asked to leave. I'm looking specifically for the steward / mediator for the
conflict with Nick. You can email me with info offlist if so desired.
Thanks!
N
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:24:42 -0700
From: "Patrik D'haeseleer" <patrikd@gmail.com>
To: "counterculturelabs@googlegroups.com"
<counterculturelabs@googlegroups.com>, "cclmembers@googlegroups.com"
<cclmembers@googlegroups.com>, sudo-discuss
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Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Gear from BioCurious up for grabs/sale
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I'm at BioCurious, trying to figure out exactly which pieces Eric was
referring to.
The centrifuge he mentioned may be a big Sorvall RT6000B. Takes up a ton of
table space - about 2ft x 3ft. But can do a lot of volume as well...
Patrik
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 4:45 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Looks like this is being turned into a garage sale, so we may not be able
> to get anything for free, unless we take our chances and wait to see what's
> left Sunday morning:
>
> http://www.meetup.com/BioCurious/events/221678323
>
> Anyone feel strongly enough about any of these pieces of equipment that we
> should put some money on it? I'm willing to chip in if it's a high enough
> priority and the equipmen goes to CCL. (CCL itself is dead broke, to don't
> expect "the lab" to buy any of these...)
>
> Patrik
>
> On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 2:26 PM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've let Eric know that we would definitely love to have both specs
>> (working or not), and the heat blocks. And that there is also interest in
>> the shaking incubator, shaking water bath, centrifuge, and the GC and
>> HPLCs. I may be able to bring over a few pieces Thursday evening already.
>>
>> I think the Hitachi spec is a no-brainer, but I suspect folks at
>> BioCurious will want to keep it after all, after hearing Josiah's
>> endorsement.
>>
>> Should we get both the shaking incubator, and the shaking water bath? The
>> incubator is definitely the largest piece of the bunch (small fridge sized;
>> may not fit in my car), and needs a controller. Duane was working on
>> putting a new controller in, and may have some pointers. The shaking water
>> bath has been a workhorse piece of equipment at BioC for the past 4 years,
>> but also a source of frustration. Very easy to cross-contaminate, and since
>> it runs 24/7 something seems to break at least once a year.
>>
>> For the GC and HPLCs, I feel like we need someone who knows these
>> machines, is willing to see to it that they get fixed up, and to train
>> others to use them. So far, Alan was the only one asking about these. Can I
>> get a definite "Yes, get them!" from anyone?
>>
>> We should definitely not be collecting pieces of half-broken machinery
>> that nobody uses (see: acoustic microscope)...
>>
>> Patrik
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:30 AM, Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> BioCurious is doing a spring cleaning and getting rid of some equipment.
>>> Do we want any of these? Let me know!
>>>
>>> Patrik
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Eric Harness <eharness@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:16 PM
>>> Subject: E - waste and equipment that must leave
>>>
>>> Here are the photos of the equipment that must go, photos below. Red
>>> needs repair green works. Green we are going to sell, red we are going
>>> to Recycle.along with the hoods. I will run this to the recycling on April
>>> 12th. All of these will be removed on the 12th. Duane I know you feel
>>> passionally about the shaking incubator but unless it is repaired it cannot
>>> stay no exceptions on this one. sorry.
>>>
>>> Centrifuge (In working order but works stops randomly)
>>> Shaking incubator (Needs repair)
>>> Shaking water bath (Heating element dangerous)
>>> Apple computer (Needs repair)
>>> Hitachi Spectrometer (Needs repair)
>>> Gas chronograph (Needs repair)
>>> HPLC (the recent acquisition and the old HPLC) (Needs repair)
>>> Tecan Spectrometer (Not working) (No Photo)
>>> 1970's balence Functional maybe but have not checked
>>> NEW -20 Needs a good home works but as is has a defrost cycle (Blows
>>> every 20 amp fuse in our building If we want to use it we need a higher amp
>>> breaker)
>>> Deconstructed machines in office
>>> Laser from Q-PCR machine (looks Functional but cannot tell powers up but
>>> need on/off control signals from computer)
>>> 2 printers (Non-functional)
>>> A couple of non-functional heat blocks.
>>>
>>> Photos
>>>
>>>
>>> [image: Inline image 10][image: Inline image 13][image: Inline image 17][image:
>>> Inline image 7][image: Inline image 14][image: Inline image 16][image:
>>> Inline image 12][image: Inline image 15]
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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