Hey all,

I am regularly moved by the sudo room community's compassion.

However, allow me to re-iterate a selection of my original message, facts and my personal positions that have not changed:

this is the second time in our new location (I was present the first time) ... of Elliot escalating a situation to a physical, even violent, response on his part.

We must differentiate patterns of behavior from isolated incidents. This is a pattern, and I think it reasonable to anticipate the risk of repeat behavior.

I am no longer willing to tolerate this behavior

Nor do I believe anyone should.

[Elliot's continued participation is] ... a greater cost, and even greater potential risk, than a revocation of his privilege to use the space.

Consequences are hard to deal with, but we, as individuals, must hold ourselves and each other responsible for our actions.

It has become more and more obvious to me that when individuals take advantage of their access to the commons, it is most critical for our community to act as stewards, to show resolve that such behavior will not be tolerated, and that paths to reconciliation begin with recognizing that, if necessary, the privilege to access the commons can, and will, be taken away.

// Matt

On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas@gmail.com> wrote:

The path forward for those interested in pursuing this issue is to put it on the sudoroom meeting agenda, and show up prepared to discuss a proposal. No one involved in this issue was present at the sudo room meeting last night. In all honesty we could really use more participation in those meetings by regular members other than Marc, myself and Matt.

Thanks,
Jenny

On 01/15/2015 11:51 AM, Eske Silver wrote:
> Thanks for the comments, and update.
> Hopefully we'll figure out how to go about finding a solution for this.
>
> ~ Korl
>
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> 510.689.4484
> On Jan 15, 2015 11:47 AM, "Ryan" <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Nothing was brought up at the meeting.
> > On Jan 15, 2015 11:47 AM, "Ryan" <yandoryn@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I fully support that with no edits, korl. I think it is full of
> >> compassion and care for everyone.
> >> On Jan 15, 2015 11:44 AM, "Eske Silver" <eske.silver@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Sent this a couple days go, but I forgot to hit 'reply all':
> >>>
> >>> True, though, that we have parted ways with members, and guests, for
> >>> less than [multiple physical incidents?] - comrade or not.
> >>> While case-by-case is my prefered language, I also always stand by a
> >>> Zero Tolerance for abuse toward another loving being.
> >>>
> >>> From what I've read, this seems the logical mean answer:
> >>> For the sake of Safer Spaces, let's ask that Elliot appreciate a request
> >>> that they take leave, until we find a resolution...
> >>> For the sake of nuance and case-by-case, I'd bet we could find someone
> >>> who's known Elliot for a handful of human time increments, who would be so
> >>> kind as to reach out to Elliot. This person might then glean what's going
> >>> on with Elliot, and how he feels we (all) should/can procede with these
> >>> issues.
> >>> Then, for the sake of precident, if Elliot is willing and able, we can
> >>> follow the guide and set on to conflict resolution...
> >>> The rest is (in theory) easy, I'd say.
> >>>
> >>> Any edits?
> >>>
> >>> ~ Korl
> >>>
> >>> ~ Korl
> >>>
> >>> 500px.com/eske
> >>> 510.689.4484
> >>>
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