Uhm - whomever writes the grant, will presumably write it to support a project of their choosing anyway. Most grants *are* for projects, not the "give us $1000 to do with what we want because we're cool" variety that sudoroom has managed to land so far. Are you suggesting to tack on a 100% overhead for sudo room?

At BioCurious, we've had a few occasions to discuss what overhead rates would be appropriate for a hacker space, and the consensus was that something in the 20% range was reasonable. Funding agencies understand overhead rates, and 20% will seem very affordable to them.

So if someone were to write a grant to raise $5K for a project, they would tack on an extra $1K to the budget as overhead for sudoroom. And if someone happened to raise half a million in a kickstarter for a project, and pass along a nice percentage to run the project out of sudo room - well, let's just say that would buy free Mate for everyone for quite a while...

Patrik


On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 12:30 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol@gaskill.com> wrote:
i like the idea that the 50% goes to a sudo room project of all the grant writers' choosing and 50% to the space

on Apr 02, 2014, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas@gmail.com> wrote:
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>I appreciate the brainstorm on fundraising, and as someone who's
>written half a dozen grants this past year, I also appreciate just how
>much time and energy it takes to do so.
>
>However, I think this is a bad idea. Namely, because it uses individual
>financial incentivization of what should be the natural incentive to
>help the community you participate in.
>
>Receiving a set-upon grantwriter stipend if we get the grant? Cool.
>Receiving 50% of any funds procured from essentially bragging about the
>community? Not cool, and probably not compliant with the terms and
>conditions of most grants.
>
>Relevant wiki page for finding funding opportunities and documentation
>from past grants: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Funding
>
>Also, the projected date for the Omni move-in (WHICH IS LOOKING REALLY
>REALLY POSSIBLE) is June 1st, not July 1st, and we would probably be
>organizing a crowdfunding campaign before then.
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>Just my two cents!
>- -Jenny
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>On Wed 02 Apr 2014 09:56:59 PM PDT, Marc Juul wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:15 PM, Maximilian Klein <isalix@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hello at this week's meeting we made a new fundraising strategy, that is
>>> participatory.
>>>
>>> ==Background==
>>> Last year we won two $4,000 cash grants, and a $2,000 3D printer just by
>>> being sudo room and filling out forms.
>>>
>>> ==New fundraising Idea==
>>> 1. Any sudoer can fill out, or add to this list of 41 grants to apply for.
>>> 2. The grant writers for an application will receive a recommendation at a
>>> sudomeeting to get 50% commission for applying on sudo's behalf.
>>> 3. We organize on fundraising@lists.sudoroom.org , so sign up there to
>>> discuss
>>
>> That might be difficult to accomplish for some grants (we'll have to
>> look at individual grant's terms and conditions) but if not possible
>> for a certain grant, maybe we can let the grant-writer spend them on a
>> sudo room project of their choosing instead? Of course it should be a
>> project related to the kinds of things that sudo room does and should
>> be open/free/libre.
>>
>>> ==Medium-Term Strategy===
>>> 1. We think that if the Omni-move-in happens, we would like to fundraise
>>> with them together as a unit. We will wait until July 1st.
>>>
>>> 2. If the Omni falls through, then we will have a sudo space individual
>>> fundraiser. Idea is a harmonious-hackathon / pay-what-you-can dev bootcamp
>>> one weekend. It can be paired with this idea:
>>> 2.1 Offer to host an RSVP Dinner w/ Francisco and Liberation Food Worker
>>> Cooperative
>>>
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