On Jul 6, 2014 10:16 AM, "Andrew Lowe" <andrew@lostways.com> wrote:

If the main issue is Backspace I have serious doubts to the usefulness of the utility room to Backspace. There are too many issues to list here. But the main one would be the electrical panels. Also that room is not particularly quiet given its proximity to the bar area.

Personally, I would rather leave that room as shared space and focus on the two far back rooms, the storage room, and the second floor. This is just my opinion, not an official backspace decision.

I would like to be having regular meetings with CCL, Sudo, and maybe TIL about how we can share space. It's really important too me, at this point in the game, to not fall on calling dibs on space as a way to build our community.

Thanks,
Andrew

On Jul 6, 2014 10:00 AM, "David Keenan" <dkeenan44@gmail.com> wrote:
hey guys,

I applaud the effort to find a good, secure server space! I definitely wanna help.

The main issue with using this particular room is, as you can see by looking at the floorplan, the Backspace wellness collective is already paying rent on that particular area (NW groundfloor corner) and will be making their own changes to that space. Backspace is myself, Andrew of course, Margaretha, Athena, and Sarah.

The wellness collective needs quiet - thats partly an attraction for that corner of the building - and, a cabinet full of fans plus almost certainly AC for the cabinet, is loud. Also, it takes up Backspace, and to be honest, i have hard time inamagining Sudo wont need to get into it alla the time, so it seems nonideal to me.

In general I would think, before using other essentially non-shared areas of the building for Sudo's servers, we would have to actually rule out why building the room in other locations, like Sudo room, wouldnt work, and why we think actually that particular location in someone else's area is really the only place it could work.

Regardless of Bsckspace, having racked & stacked for going on 20 years that would not be my first location in the entire building for a lot of reasons.

Also, a server cabinet / closet does not need to be near the main electrical panel. Nor does it does not need to be near the street. 

We could find a room in the basement. There is excellent ventilation to the basement, that just needs a small fix. Also the furnaces are in the basement, and heat from the servers could tap into that venting to actually help heat the building, which could save on energy. Also, there is a plan to build a walk-in in the basement - the compressor for that could also provide cooling for the servers. 

In other words, in my view, we should attempt a green solution that ties the serbers into the infrastructure for the building.

:)
d

On Saturday, July 5, 2014, Somebody <somebody@riseup.net> wrote:
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=== SERVER ROOM UPDATES ===
2014/07/05:
Today Luis, Matt, and I did the walk in the building, and so far the
only place that seems the
most appropriate to have the server room is the room by the bar.

This area is the most ideal in the whole building because the air flow,
temperature, electricity proximity, and also because it is where the
Internet access enters the building.

Since this area is not is not part of the SudoRoom space, we will have
to talk about it with the rest of the Sudo-Mesh group and the group
approves it, then we would have to present the idea at our
Omni Collective meeting for approval.

If approved by the Omni Collective, we would need to build:

* A 2" or so high floor (two by fours and plywood would do, I believe.
* A 55" x 65" cage with chicken wire walls and a door.

If this place is NOT approved by the OOC then perhaps we should consider
building the Server Room in the SudoRoom Space. High temperature and
noise levels are the main issues.

If others have ideas/comments/or want to be part of this process please
jump in. You may contact Matt, Luis, or myself (Daniel).

This update and all other Network/Reboot project is found at:
https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Network/Reboot


This update and all other Network/Reboot project is found at:
https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Network/Reboot

Thx!

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