On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Jeremy Entwistle <jwentwistle@cryptolab.net> wrote:

Socialism or communism describes this economic philosophy--even if it's often misinterpreted. Workers cooperatives are typically described as socialist, although, I think of socialism as a the progression rather than a state of workers cooperatives. On the other hand, the equal representation concept/structure of communism, even if it is thought of as something else, is nothing but abolishing private property. In this instance, a workers cooperative does abolish private property, if you fully understand the meaning of it... in that private property doesn't require use or labor.

I certainly agree with these concepts, but I don't see the purpose of renaming them. Mainly because there's a lot of literature on it. As a society, we've been taught to fear these concepts to avoid learning about them. We should encourage people to know these "definitions"... rather than make new ones.

On 2013-11-01 18:57, Anthony Di Franco wrote:

Along those lines, I suspect the holocracy term is meant at the level
of guiding political / economic philosophy from which one then works
to construct specific legal structures to implement the idea in
specific contexts with various other names.
On Nov 1, 2013 11:51 AM, "Danny Spitzberg" <stationaery@gmail.com>
wrote:

my friends/sources at theselc.org [1] say that, yes, a worker

cooperative by any other name (t-corp, wsde, zimzam, hoosegow) would
smell as sweet

On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Jeremy Entwistle
<jwentwistle@cryptolab.net> wrote:
Maybe I don't understand the entire concept of a "holacracy", but
it sounds very similar to a workers cooperative. Or how Richard
Wolff tried to rename it too as WSDEs with the Democracy at Work
project. But it really sounds like workers cooperative to me.

Jeremy

On 2013-10-31 12:39, Eddan Katz wrote:

Those who have expressed interest in a co-operative model of
organizational development would be interested in Holacracy, which
Janelle Orsi of the Sustainable Economies Law Center, promotes in
her
lectures. From today's blog post about a new Holacracy 'app':

In a typical top-down management structure, the power to hire and
fire employees is generally in the hands of managers. With
Holacracy
at play, the game is entirely different: with the decentralization
of authority [1], the separation of people and role [2], and the
dynamic evolution of those roles [3], we end up with a situation

that looks more like free agents going about their work with no
central planning. There might not even be a single person who knows
about everything you do. This then begs the question: who can
decide
how and when to hire or fire?

Holacracy doesn’t answer that question; it simply gives you a
framework and processes for your company to figure it out. In other
words, if Holacracy is an “operating system” for organizations,
the “hire-and-fire” function is an “app” that needs to be
added separately.

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