...which is most irrational and patently absurd, so if i ever do it myself, i sincerely hope i catch myself, cease, and desist (and 'catch myself' includes being caught: let's put the virtue -- the 'face' -- back into willing admission/self-correction of error).

here's a philosophical hypothesis: it might all go back to the concept of 'usury' and the dominant concept of money. 

this might best be illustrated by an often mistranslated, or misremembered adage:

AMOR PECUNIÆ RADIX MALORUM

money is not the root of evil.  the love of money is the root of evil.


anyways,

ff


On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Sonja Trauss <sonja.trauss@gmail.com> wrote:
"our" side does this reasoning all the time. When I went to the Forest Hill neighborhood meeting about a proposed senior housing project the SF Mayor's office wants to build there was a woman there accusing me and my friend Tim of being a real estate shills because we were in favor of it. It's classic to accuse your opponents of only doing what they do because of money. Everyone does it when they can't imagine a rational person having a different point of view.

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:01 AM, johanna faust <female.faust@gmail.com> wrote:
the question is, is it actually fake?  because i see no harm in enabling people - many of whom would not be able to otherwise - to dedicate themselves to something they believe in.

non-profits are built on this principle, no?

another instance of "the other side's" faulty reasoning.


ff


On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 7:15 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23@hotmail.com> wrote:
There is a concerted nation-wide effort to get people to believe that any protest, including Standing Rock, is only happening because everyone there is paid to be there.  The story comes complete with "rumors" that George Soros is paying for it all.

Here in Philly (where I've been the past week) I've had conversations with more than a few peole who told me that family members who voted for Trump told them that these horrible demonstrators around the county are all paid to be there.

Fun times!

Cheers,
Mitch.

From: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss-bounces@lists.sudoroom.org> on behalf of Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Wanted: Activists to fight Trump - full time pay plus benefits and expenses
 
Word is, this offer is likely fake. If anyone has more first-hand information, please speak up...


Patrik

On Tue, Jan 17, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Autonomous <autonomous666@gmail.com> wrote:
As a Demand Protest operative you will receive a monthly retainer of $2,500 on top of our standard per-event pay of $50/hr, as long as you participate in at least 6 events a year. We are extremely flexible and can work with almost any existing work schedule. Full-time operatives receive health, vision and dental insurance for families, flexible vacations, and paid trainings. Travel expenses are always paid.

http://sf.backpage.com/MiscJobs/get-paid-fighting-against-trump/48800067

Q: Who funds this?


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