Does anyone have info on how locksmiths are trained and licensed?
Also, I know there are examples of everyday objects that can be used to pick some locks. The Cap'N Crunch whistle is the most famous, as far as I'm aware. The ability to unlock it with the simple use of a pencap would be information I'd want to have available to me before purchasing a bike lock. Does anyone have other useful examples?
Here's article from McSweeny's that's interviewing a professional safecracker. Some of these quotes are pretty good:
Q: It seems like you could use this knowledge in bad ways if you wanted to.
A: Clients often ask, jokingly, whether we learn our trade in prison.
Technically, the biggest difference between what a burglar does and what I do is that the burglar wants to get in and out quickly and doesn’t care if the safe ever gets used again. I take my time because my objective is opening it with minimal damage so the owner can use it again.
A criminal safecracker also needs different knowledge and skills, beyond the technical, that I don’t have or need. I don’t need to know how to avoid leaving evidence, circumvent an alarm system, plan a get-away, or fence-stolen goods.
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Anca.
On Feb 28, 2013, at 6:43 PM, Michael Scroggins wrote:
I must have missed
something in the email chain as I am unaware of the Workshop Weekend
letter. Of course, you are right that the two letters should match,
especially in front of the media. I can't help to think, though, that
this is an opportunity to drive home the broader point that neither
curiosity nor association is a crime.
Eddan Katz wrote:
Seems to me like sticking to correcting the misuse of the word
unconscionable can be respectful to the police chief and informative
about the difference between skills and criminal intent.
If Sudo Room does a separate statement, it should follow on
Workshop Weekend's letter and support its posture and position.
There'll be TV cameras there this weekend - we can feel pretty
confident about that. It would be very useful to share a common
understanding in order not to have our purpose misrepresented.
I think a statement is
well and proper. I also think arguing the right to disinterest inquiry
is the proper line.
To the earlier back and forth about "known gang members" ... one of the
differences between the people at SudoRoom and "known gang members" is
simply that to be classified as "known" is to be stripped of your right
to disinterested inquiry. All of your actions having been prejudged as
interested and malicious.
If the letter is worded right we can make a statement about the lock
picking class and about the direction policing in Oakland has taken.
Michael
Eddan Katz wrote:
J.D. - do you think there should be an
additional statement from Sudo Room?
Before we
proceed any further - does anyone have objections to writing such a
letter or signing on to it? What the statement says is another matter
for which Sudo member objections should also feel empowered to raise.
Comments can be made anonymously on the etherpad or on IRC, if someone
isn't comfortable doing it on the list.
sent from
eddan.comYeah,
we were hoping to publish it tonight. Let me try to draft something and
send it on?
Part of me is concerned about editing a
public statement on a public list...
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