Woah, ya'll need to relax.

First of all, the machine is inoperable at the moment.

Second, we're still trying to pick it up.

Third, it doesn't HAVE to be at sudo room at all, especially if it's not safe, etc.

Remember: value do-ocracy over bureaucracy.

// Matt

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback@gmail.com> wrote:

Additionally, I believe that hazardous radiation may be in conflict with our safe space policies. Perhaps we can draft a radiation policy at the next meeting?

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback@gmail.com> wrote:

IMO its possibly better for us to do non radioactive art projects.

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm all in favor of avoiding exposure to x-rays. I'd say this thing probably is never going to work, and might make an interesting art project or something. 

If people are serious about attempting to make it work as an x-ray source, there would need to be a clear plan about how people would be protected from it. And I suspect that the time while the fix is being attempted, that is the most likely time to have accidental exposure to x-rays, so protection would need to come first. 

Probably requires building some sort of lead lined enclosure around the thing with safety interlocks to make sure the door is closed before it can turn on, and that would probably be pretty expensive. 

But if people are really into it, and can put up the money to make it happen...then the idea should be considered.

-steve

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <ryan.bethencourt@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Steve, those lead shields are useful in minimizing radiation exposure in a clinical setting but unfortunately in a hacker space I would probably classify having an active X-ray source as a hazardous danger. I'm not against controlled risks but there is a very real risk of inadvertantly exposing other occupants to X-rays (even accidentally) and that could be a problem. Similar to some of the biowork that a few of us are hoping to do, we have to be really careful to ensure Sudo room is a physically safe enviroment (within reason) for all members, even if that means some things may not be possible in our shared space and I would feel a little uncomfortable with an active X-ray source being used (even if I'm in the other room).

 

Does anyone have any additional thoughts on this? I'm not an X-ray (or radiation) expert but I just wanted to chime in around the safety considerations that I thought might be important for us!

 

R

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Meier <wolfy@wlfy.it> wrote:

In theory this thing first actually work.

He was unable to meet up yesterday so someone still needs to pick it up.

-Wolfy

On Friday, February 8, 2013, Steve Berl wrote:

http://www.universalmedicalinc.com/Lead-Shields-s/232.htm?gclid=CKuco-q5p7UCFct7QgodkSgAVQ

On Friday, February 8, 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:

Hey Guys,

 

Just a word of caution from a Bio/Clinical guy (which I'm sure most of you are aware of but I just thought I'd bring it up).

 

We have to be really careful with X-ray's and if/when they're used in Sudo room as it can be carcinogenic (ionizing radiation causes DNA damage with potential to cause cancer). Radiation sources can also penetrate walls, so it could have potential outside of the confines of sudoroom.

 

If the machine is held in Sudo room we should also clearly mark it and let everyone know if/when it's activated!

 

All the best,

Ryan

 

 

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl@gmail.com> wrote:

What sort of an X-ray machine? I've always thought it would be handy to have one around to see what's inside various devices. 

Steve

On Thursday, February 7, 2013, Matthew Senate wrote:

Wolfy lives close by there, so he can pick it up!

// Matt

On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Matthew Senate <mattsenate@gmail.com> wrote:

Let me know, would be great to get someone close by soon.

// Matt

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