People, <div><br></div><div>I think we&#39;ve derailed the conversation. <div><br></div><div>This thread goes back to the events, and isn&#39;t a general problem with our group in my opinion.  The issue is that we aren&#39;t there to clean after these events, and we had an issue with finger-pointing about who did what.  I don&#39;t agree that George is the problem, because I thought it was a mess, and wouldn&#39;t want to be in the common room if it looked that way all the time. </div>

<div><br></div><div>The problem is that I  thought that the cigarette smoke and the pile of crap next to the shop-vac appeared not to be from sudo, along with the furniture being all whacky, but even that I couldn&#39;t prove because people were coming in and out of our space into the common room.   So, nobody cleans up, and nobody is accountable. </div>

<div><br>My suggestion is that on those nights we lock up sudo at the same time the event is over.  That way, if there is a mess, it doesn&#39;t randomly belong to us.  It probably makes sense to also take a cleaning deposit, since a lot of these events make money(indirectly by donation) at our expense, and so taking $100 for the night, until we&#39;re satisfied, doesn&#39;t seem like an unfair proposition.  Oh, and we need basic cleaning supplies to be available at all times. </div>

<div><br></div><div>I think there are probably a few other solutions to this problem, but the one I propose is really straight-forward, and it will solve that particular problem.  </div><div><br></div><div>-Rusty</div><div>

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