All that myself and others have asked of you is that you provide a bit
more detailed information about the discussion you had while terminating
the lease. Your name was on the lease, I believe you have every right to
terminate the lease in order to remove your name. What I cannot
understand is why you consider questions regarding the discussion you
had off topic or offensive.
I'm confused as to how we're supposed to continue onto the work we have
> For the sake of moving on to the work we have cut out for us - this
> is my last message addressing this topic.
cut out for us without knowing the details and expectations surrounding
the termination of our lease. I was not asking "why" did this happen, I
was (am) asking "what" happened.
I am removing myself from any further discussion regarding the 2141
location on this mailing list, apologies to those who's feelings were hurt.
-- rhodey
On 10/01/2013 03:43 PM, Eddan Katz wrote:
> This is an extraordinarily unfair thing to say. On so many levels.
>
> I'm sorry that I have not articulated myself better. Those who know me, know that the message below is unfounded and mean-spirited.
>
> For the sake of moving on to the work we have cut out for us - this is my last message addressing this topic.
>
>
> sent from eddan.com
>
> On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:09 PM, rhodey <rhodey@anhonesteffort.org> wrote:
>
> Eddan,
>
> You took it upon yourself to terminate SudoRoom's lease in (what I
> understand to be) a private meeting. Putting the question of whether
> or not this was agreed on by SudoRoom aside, the very least that you
> could do is share with us the details of a discussion you had on our
> behalf.
>
> Take a second to realize that although the idea of investing in
> property is both interesting and financially feasible for you, others
> may not feel the same or be financially able.
>
> -- rhodey
>
> On 10/01/2013 02:54 PM, Eddan Katz wrote:
>>>> I don't think it makes any sense to lump this into one of george's
>>>> emotional outbursts.
>>>>
>>>> as we've all been following closely over this list, the equity
>>>> crowdfunding provision of the Jobs Act, which went into effect last
>>>> week on Sept. 23, 2013, enables the distribution of shares outside
>>>> the traditional infrastructure of approved investors. the changes
>>>> in the future of capital flow routing around wall st. and the rules
>>>> surrounding investment cannot be underestimated. by opening up the
>>>> buying of stocks to us regular folks - with capital investment no
>>>> longer made unaffordable because of the huge cuts taken by
>>>> investment bank intermediaries and securities regulations
>>>> fortifying the status quo - the possibilities for raising capital
>>>> have just exploded.
>>>>
>>>> most interestingly, from my point of view, a collaborative
>>>> non-hierarchical ownership and management structure becomes
>>>> feasible in a way that it has never been in economic history.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 2:07 PM, Marina Kukso <marina.kukso@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:marina.kukso@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> as far as i know eddan is the only one who has spoken with
>>>>> george, one of the building's owners, about the co-op
>>>>> possibility. eddan, can you share any more info about what
>>>>> exactly george said (my main question is whether this is just
>>>>> another one of george's idle threat type things that he just says
>>>>> and never intends to follow through on).?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Zee <zee@zeespencer.com
>>>>> <mailto:zee@zeespencer.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I am exceedingly interested in this, and would happily discuss
>>>>> it further over tea or coffee with other interested parties.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Andrew
>>>>> <andrew@roshambomedia.com <mailto:andrew@roshambomedia.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> I have no idea what the price per sq-ft is. We should find
>>>>>> that
>>>>> out. Also
>>>>>> having the capital isn't really as important as having a small
>>>>> group who is
>>>>>> willing to put in the time and resources when necessary to
>>>>>> make
>>>>> it happen.
>>>>>> With good enough credit it would be possible to finance the
>>>>> space depending
>>>>>> on the down payment. Or even crowd source the down payment.
>>>>> There are a lot
>>>>>> of options if there are people who actually want to it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:57 AM, Hol Gaskill <hol@gaskill.com
>>>>> <mailto:hol@gaskill.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bump
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oct 1, 2013 10:51:46 AM, zee@zeespencer.com
>>>>> <mailto:zee@zeespencer.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Do we have an idea on what the per-sq-ft sale cost is?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 10:50 AM, David Keenan
>>>>> dkeenan44@gmail.com <mailto:dkeenan44@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The co-op thing sounds like a very cool idea, except for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>> fact that
>>>>>>>>> neither I nor anyone I know has, to my knowledge at
>>>>>>>>> least,
>>>>> access to
>>>>>>>>> the volume of capital that i imagine is required, so
>>>>>>>>> personally
>>>>> I'm still a
>>>>>>>>> bit lost on how one would move forward on such an
>>>>>>>>> acquisition..?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -d
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, October 1, 2013, Andrew wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't been around all that much, but am I correct
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>> assume that
>>>>>>>>>> the current situation is that:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 1. Sudo Room's current lease ends Jan 1st 2. George is
>>>>>>>>>> willing to sell off part of 2141 to a group of
>>>>> investors?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If this is so. Let's talk 2141 Co-Op. Is there anyone
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>> this list who
>>>>>>>>>> would be at all interested in owning part of a building
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>> the middle
>>>>>>>>>> of Downtown Oakland??
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sudo Room or not, this is a great opportunity for a
>>>>> collective to turn
>>>>>>>>>> some extremely prime real estate in to a commercial
>>>>>>>>>> Co-Op.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Just wanted to bring attention to this. Thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- ------- Andrew Lowe Cell: 831-332-2507
>>>>>>>>>> <tel:831-332-2507> http://roshambomedia.com
>>>>>>>>>> <http://roshambomedia.com/>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- ------- Andrew Lowe Cell: 831-332-2507 <tel:831-332-2507>
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