I was there Saturday as the fight broke out while I was helping with an event. I tried to deescalate the two folks who were agitating each other, as two or three women were mediating. In the end, Chicago (of Phat Beets) was confident and successful at having the whole crew move to the end of the block, near the start of Shattuck and Telegraph. Thankfully, as far as I know, no one was physically hurt and no police were called or involved. 

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019, 18:45 Jenny Ryan <jenny@jennyryan.net> wrote:
Thanks for doing that, Null & others involved. Sorry to hear it got violent :/

personally found approaching a particularly dicey situation with two other people to work - individually can be risky, and too many more can be overly-threatening.. (though we have done the human-chain-walkout thing for persistent, violently aggressive people in the past)

& remember-

<3

On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 7:50 PM Jared Null <admin@jarednull.com> wrote:
This evening at around 4:30pm, there were two groups of people drinking outside Omni, two people at the corner entrance and about six people sitting in-front of the ballroom steps.  

Me and another member in Omni made an even toned request to both groups to please not drink in front of the building. The first group (corner entrance) of two people complied with our request with no problem, the second group (in-front of steps) became agitated, as we explained our situation and the email, two of the people in the drinking group started fighting and physically assaulting one another, at that point me and the other Omni member decided to go back inside, we did not call the police, and as far as i know, the police were never called.

Later on (about a half hour later) someone in Omni acting as a mediator told us that the second group by the steps have moved. If this happens again in the future, i think we need to act immediate on our request for them not to drink and making the request as a group and not as one person because of their aggressive and uncontrollable behavior.

Thanks, 
Null 

On Mar 26, 2019, at 4:09 PM, Laura Turiano <scylla@riseup.net> wrote:

Hi everyone,

I have received messages from a neighbor saying that she is increasingly concerned about the situation on the ballroom steps. It seems to have deteriorated lately. She says there are often "lots of people" out there and loud music is being played at various times of the day and night. The people are drinking openly and intoxicated. Lee and Danny's health problems have been getting worse so folks are frequently calling ambulances to take them to the hospital when they have seizures. She also believes someone (she did not accuse Lee or Danny) is dealing there at night. I asked if she could describe the person who is dealing and she couldn't. She has noticed cops patrolling more frequently and thinks that other neighbors may be calling them or complaining that they they feel unsafe.

I think we need to have another discussion about how to handle this. There may be new people coming around. In the meantime, if you see people playing music loud enough for neighbors to hear, please ask whoever is playing it to turn it down. If you feel comfortable asking people not to drink alcohol, please also do so. What I say is something to the effect of, "we don't mind people hanging out on the steps, but if there is drinking, loud music or yelling, trash, or illegal behavior, neighbors are going to complain, call the cops, and that threatens Omni's existence. If we go away, whoever owns the building next is almost definitely NOT going to let folks sit here. So if it continues, then we won't be able to let people sit here."

If anyone has any information about any dealing that might be happening, please contact me directly. I will keep your identity confidential.

I have been encouraging Danny and Lee to get into a recovery program. Their friend Andrew is also trying to convince them and is willing to drive them to the program we have discussed.

Laura

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