I am supposed to be sailing on Saturday leaving around 10, but I like this and would like to help... I could be around in the early evening to help. You can text me 401 451 7150, if we get enough other people together. Its Friday pm right now, I could potentially help move it tonight... Is anybody else interested in this?

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Today's Topics:

   1. SF Resistor #2 & other unfortunate events (NOT SPAM!)
      (Tony Longshanks LeTigre)
   2. Re: [omni-discuss]  Change of Email (yar)
   3. Remington full upright piano (that used to be a nuematically
      controlled player piano) (Cere Mona Davis)
   4. Re: [omni-discuss] Change of Email (yar)
   5. Re: [omni-discuss] Remington full upright piano (that used to
      be a nuematically controlled player piano) (yar)
   6. Re: [omni-discuss] Donation box at CCL raided (Jenny Ryan)
   7. Re: [omni-discuss] Remington full upright piano (that used to
      be a nuematically controlled player piano) (Candace Lazarou)
   8. Re: Crypto Class Study Group (Garrett Robinson)
   9. Re: [omni-discuss] Remington full upright piano (that used to
      be a nuematically controlled player piano) (Patrik D'haeseleer)
  10. Newbie Night Topics (null null null)
  11. Re: Newbie Night Topics (Marina Kukso)
  12. Re: [omni-discuss] Remington full upright piano (that used to
      be a nuematically controlled player piano) (Marc Juul)
  13. asked to leave (Jake)
  14. Re: [omni-discuss] Remington full upright piano (that used to
      be a nuematically controlled player piano) (Marc Juul)
  15. Re: Newbie Night Topics (April Glaser)
  16. Re: [omni-discuss] Remington full upright piano (that used to
      be a nuematically controlled player piano) (Marc Juul)
  17. Re: [omni-discuss] Remington full upright piano (that used to
      be a nuematically controlled player piano) (Cere Mona Davis)
  18. Re: [omni-discuss] Remington full upright piano (that used to
      be a nuematically controlled player piano) (Patrik D'haeseleer)
  19. we have a CNC router/mill now! (Jake)
  20. Re: [omni-discuss] Donation box at CCL raided (Jehan Tremback)
  21. Re: we have a CNC router/mill now! (Cere Misc)
  22. Re: asked to leave (David Keenan)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 10:58:44 -0800
From: Tony Longshanks LeTigre <anthonyletigre@gmail.com>
To: sfresistor@riseup.net
Cc: spazlist@spaz.org, sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org,
discuss@lists.omnicommons.org
Subject: [sudo-discuss] SF Resistor #2 & other unfortunate events (NOT
SPAM!)
Message-ID:
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I hope everyone won't mind this unsolicited zinetic outburst. I simply
cannot contain myself.
?The second issue of my zine is now online at http://resistor.spaz.org!
<http://resistor.spaz.org>
Click the PDF directory. You will find reading & printing PDFs for both
issues of SF Resistor so far.
The second issue was actually finished just before Christmas as scheduled,
but it's taken me this long to figure out FTP for the first time & get the
files up without an internet-connectable laptop of my own.
If you are just reading the zine online, select the read.pdfs for each
issue.
SFR2 appears green because it's printed on green paper. I am heading north
in a couple months but plan to produce two more issues of SFR before
leaving. I'm already at work on the 3rd one. Each issue will be printed on
different color paper. Then I will collect the zine quadrilogy & dispense
copies to excellent people. That will happen in mid-March/early April.
Instructions for printing are on page 3 of SFR2, & will soon be up on the
site in a README file.
The site will be developed into a blog (ArcTangent (x) is the name) but is
just a seedling file tree a t m.
And for anyone who saw one of the crappy first-run print copies of SFR2,
the PDF file write snafu has been corrected (it turned out to be a simple
directory name error on my part) so I have print copies? that look good &
are fully legible now. I'm bringing some to the OMNI bookstore this
weekend. (My second visit to the new Sudospace.)
I would like to help develop the SR zine & teach people how to make zines,
do layout both digitally & by hand, etc.
Also I am helping my friend, a person known to many, start a combination
printshop+cafe in the east bay soon. The need is definitely there. I've
been doing my printing at the public library & the print stations there are
always packed to the max. I've started giving impromptu tutoring sessions
to puzzled library patrons, since I often seem to know more about this
stuff than the staff.


*SF Resistor #2*

*December 2014*


*List of Contents*


Page 1: Intro / District Zero / Freeks

Page 2: Feedback (reader letters)

Page 3: Printing, layout & design info

Page 4: My Many SF Squats (3 Years of Exhilarating Chaos!)

Page 5: Media Watch - Housing Crisis

Page 6: A few thoughts on Activism

Page 7: A few thoughts on Activism / Chaotic Neutral

Page 8: Toilet Trouble (And now we must turn our attention to fecal
matters...)

Page 9: M-Theory News (Headlines From the Twilight Dimension)

Page 10: Season?s Greetings from Leatherface & the boys!

Page 11: (Centerfold A) What I?d like for Christmas!

Page 12: (Centerfold B) Street Gallery

Page 13: Garbage Lessons (Dumpster diving tips from a total amateur)

Page 14: Transmissions From the Id ? Hackers in the Attic

Page 15: Transmissions From the Id ? Hackers in the Attic (concluded)

Page 16: Tales of the Soup Kitchen (St. Anthony?s)

Page 17: Brain Food (book reviews) ? Magic Words: The Extraordinary Life of
Alan Moore, The Drunken Botanist, Wicked Plants, The Tao of Physics

Page 18: Sharks in the Water! / S.Q.U.A.T. / Lava Mae

Page 19: Watch Cat ? Bay Guardian demise & related bullshit

Page 20: People Still Like Books / ?Unregistered Cities No. 1?

Page 21: The Eyes of Strangers (Urban Dharma)

Page 22: A Short Eulogy for Ted Gullicksen (long live the uncrowned king!)





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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:24:07 -0800
From: yar <yardenack@gmail.com>
To: Eske <eske.silver@gmail.com>
Cc: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>, discuss
<discuss@lists.omnicommons.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss]  Change of Email
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Eske <eske.silver@gmail.com> wrote:
> P.s.
> Is it possible to get omnicommons.org email accounts through our hosting
> service?
> That would be amazing.

Sure, just let us know:

1) whataddress@omnicommons.org you want
2) the email address you'd like it to forward to

You can send those requests to me or another sysadmin individually, or
to sysadmins@omnicommons.org


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:28:56 -0800
From: Cere Mona Davis <ceremona@gmail.com>
To: sudo-discuss <sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>,
"discuss@lists.omnicommons.org" <discuss@lists.omnicommons.org>, Art
Mielke <artmielke@yahoo.com>,  Anthony Di Franco
<di.franco@gmail.com>, Sam Tepper <sam.tepper@gmail.com>
Subject: [sudo-discuss] Remington full upright piano (that used to be
a nuematically controlled player piano)
Message-ID:
<CAKtSE-sOHHornS+y5qTf-2t9ngQvcGLwoctsP_+ad_MsTvxUjg@mail.gmail.com>
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Hiya folks,

Art in North Berkeley (cc'd here) is offering a really in-tune full upright
piano.  The key action is totally solid (full spring back on every key).
He has a truck to transport the piano in but we need to provide the
muscle.  I figure we would need at least 4 strong (and tall doesn't hurt)
people to move this thing.

It's kind of an amazing piano in that is used to be a player piano that was
controlled via a bellows system and air tubes.  I view this kind of piano
as being imminently (and very interestingly) hackable in a way that very
few pianos are and I really really think we should bring it into Omni!  I
made a short video of this piano here:

http://youtu.be/AaFc4yRctZQ

Demonstrating some of the unusual portals and controls that can be used on
this piano.

Art lives in N. Berkeley closeish to the N. Berkeley Bart so some of us to
help to move this piano by barting then walking to his house.

He would like to try and move this tomorrow or saturday.  Also there is a
very large bookshelf (or storage shelf) that we will likely want to grab
for sudo or CCL.

-Cere

--
Best Regards,
Cere Davis
ceremona@gmail.com
-------------------
GPG Key:  http://taffy.findpage.com/~cere/pubkey.asc
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:44:05 -0800
From: yar <yardenack@gmail.com>
To: Amgo Go <littlebitagive@gmail.com>
Cc: Eske <eske.silver@gmail.com>, sudo-discuss
<sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>, discuss
<discuss@lists.omnicommons.org>, "sysadmins@lists.omnicommons.org"
<sysadmins@lists.omnicommons.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Change of Email
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On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Amgo Go <littlebitagive@gmail.com> wrote:
> Apparently we can acquire the email address (by talking to yar?) so people
> can send us stuff and it forwards to our other email account, but getting
> one to send FROM is trickier...any more input on this,
> computo-smartypantses?

We can set up a sasl/pop/imap if you're ok connecting from a local
email client instead of just having things forwarded to gmail. Just
nobody's made it a priority yet.


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:50:16 -0800
From: yar <yardenack@gmail.com>
To: Cere Mona Davis <ceremona@gmail.com>
Cc: Art Mielke <artmielke@yahoo.com>, sudo-discuss
<sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>, "discuss@lists.omnicommons.org"
<discuss@lists.omnicommons.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Remington full upright
piano (that used to be a nuematically controlled player piano)
Message-ID:
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On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona@gmail.com> wrote:
> Art lives in N. Berkeley closeish to the N. Berkeley Bart so some of us to
> help to move this piano by barting then walking to his house.
>
> He would like to try and move this tomorrow or saturday.

Yes please! I would love to help with this. I could drive some muscle
over there in my car as well.

Would we put this in the ballroom? The existing ballroom piano is
getting really sad and out of tune, I think because it keeps being
moved around. I would love to know any ideas people have for keeping
the pianos open-access and reconfigurable, but also not a total
maintenance nightmare.

Also, I would really like to fix the existing one but don't know where
to start. If anybody out there knows how to fix and tune pianos, and
would like to exchange knowledge or learn alongside me, please let me
know! :D


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 14:52:49 -0800
From: Jenny Ryan <tunabananas@gmail.com>
To: Eske <eske.silver@gmail.com>
Cc: Jordan Yar <yardenack@gmail.com>, sudo-discuss
<sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Donation box at CCL raided
Message-ID: <54C17F41.3050402@gmail.com>
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Eske,
Word. Try asking the international hackerspaces.org list!
http://lists.hackerspaces.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss

On 01/22/2015 05:35 AM, Eske wrote:
> Thank you. I really appreciate the info, especially since our space restriction/safety protocols really ought to be put in higher gear. People seem to be worried it goes against the commons values, etc.
> We spoke about it at last night's meeting and it seems we're more in a mode to implement stricter access.
> I personally would love to get in touch with some other, far older and more experienced hackerspaces, especially ones in other parts of the workd, for more ideas and insight like this.
>
> ~ Korl
>
> 510.671.0824
> 500px.com/soenke-v;
>
> soundcloud.com/twentywings
>
>
>
> On Jan 22, 2015, 5:29 AM, at 5:29 AM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've been to a few of the hackerspaces here in Berlin, and they all
> > have
> > had much stricter entrance policies and visitor hours than Noisebridge
> > or
> > Sudoroom/CCL. Keep in mind that these spaces have been thriving for far
> > longer than any of the Bay Area hackerspaces. Having access be somewhat
> > restricted is not necessarily a bad thing.
> >
> > -Jehan
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:53 PM, Eske <eske.silver@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Its ok, so have I.
> >> No, but it's on the agenda for tonight.
> >>
> >> ~ Korl
> >>
> >> 510.671.0824
> >>  <http://500px.com/soenke-v&#13>500px.com/soenke-v;
> >>  <http://soundcloud.com/twentywings>soundcloud.com/twentywings
> >> On Jan 21, 2015, at 6:28 PM, yar <yardenack@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 6:24 PM, Eske <eske.silver@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>  I was thinking the keypad system would only be used during
> >>>>  member/memberguests only hours (I.e. 10pm to 10am).
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, I've missed a bunch of meetings. Is "member/memberguests only
> >>> hours" an official thing we do now?
> >>>
> >>>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> sudo-discuss mailing list
> >> sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
> >> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
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-Laurie Anderson

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-Hannah Arendt

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 15:02:24 -0800
From: Candace Lazarou <candacelazarou@gmail.com>
To: yar <yardenack@gmail.com>
Cc: Art Mielke <artmielke@yahoo.com>, sudo-discuss
<sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>, Cere Mona Davis
<ceremona@gmail.com>, "discuss@lists.omnicommons.org"
<discuss@lists.omnicommons.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] [omni-discuss] Remington full upright
piano (that used to be a nuematically controlled player piano)
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

also interested in fixing and tuning, but I only have experience playing...

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:50 PM, yar <yardenack@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Cere Mona Davis <ceremona@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Art lives in N. Berkeley closeish to the N. Berkeley Bart so some of us
> to
> > help to move this piano by barting then walking to his house.
> >
> > He would like to try and move this tomorrow or saturday.
>
> Yes please! I would love to help with this. I could drive some muscle
> over there in my car as well.
>
> Would we put this in the ballroom? The existing ballroom piano is
> getting really sad and out of tune, I think because it keeps being
> moved around. I would love to know any ideas people have for keeping
> the pianos open-access and reconfigurable, but also not a total
> maintenance nightmare.
>
> Also, I would really like to fix the existing one but don't know where
> to start. If anybody out there knows how to fix and tune pianos, and
> would like to exchange knowledge or learn alongside me, please let me
> know! :D
> _______________________________________________
> sudo-discuss mailing list
> sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org
> https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/sudo-discuss
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 17:02:30 -0800
From: Garrett Robinson <garrett.f.robinson@gmail.com>
To: max b <maxb.personal@gmail.com>
Cc: "sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org"
<sudo-discuss@lists.sudoroom.org>
Subject: Re: [sudo-discuss] Crypto Class Study Group
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Hey Sudo Room!

Sorry for dropping the ball on organizing this - travel, conferences, and
work got in the way. I and a small group (currently 3 people) plan on
meeting at Sudo Room *Sunday at 6:30* to have an informal study group for
the Crypto I class. We will be talking about the current material, the
problem set, and the assignment.

If you are taking the course now, please join us! If you are not, or are
unsure if you want to continue, remember that the first problem set is* due
on Monday*, so you still have time!!

If it goes well, or there is sufficient interest expressed on the list, we
will consider making it a regular event and putting it on the calendar.
April Glaser has kindly offered to help us with that, if we decide to do so.

Cryptographically yours,
Garrett

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 2:40 PM, max b <maxb.personal@gmail.com> wrote:

> No I agree that the calendar looks good atm - thanks for your hard work!
>
> Just saying that I'm not sure we can really have a class without a sudoer
> bottom lining it.
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:07 PM, April Glaser <april.glaser@riseup.net>
> wrote:
>
>>  Max,
>>
>> I'm happy to help organize, sponsor, etc. I think most all of the ghost
>> events are cleared. Feel free to email me off list if you'd like to discuss
>> some calendar clearing tho :)
>>
>> Was just trying to encourage and move things along.
>>
>> Thanks! A
>>
>> On 1/5/15 2:04 PM, max b wrote:
>>
>> Can I just say that I'd really prefer if no one puts it on the calendar
>> until a sudoroom member steps up and agrees to bottom line this? We already
>> suffer from enough ghost events....
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:02 PM, April Glaser <april.glaser@riseup.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi Garrett!!
>>>
>>> This is a great idea. And you all can def use Sudo for this - or we can
>>> reserve a private room at Omni. Happy to help put it on the calendar, etc
>>> (although I can't commit to the course).
>>>
>>> Is there a day of the week/weekend daytime that you have in mind? Maybe
>>> we can put out a poll on the list for what day would work best for folks
>>> who are interested. I'm sure many would dig this.
>>>
>>> Best, April
>>>
>>> On 1/5/15 1:58 PM, zaki@manian.org wrote:
>>>
>>>    I can commit to awareness building amongst the various cryto groups
>>> I'm a part of . It would be awesome if more bitcoin people did the course.
>>>
>>> I'm fairly overloaded right now. I'd be most likely to participate on
>>> Friday or esp Sunday .
>>>
>>> It will be a great thing if something can come together.
>>>
>>> I feel like not very many people realize that

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