considering that i was called an idiot and met with hostility when my original intent was to get some more information on the subject. i'd be interested in keeping this discussion public.

-Wolfy

On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:40 AM, Anon195714 <anon195714@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Re. Hep:

Rather than just sling a sentence-full of unsupported ad-hominems (clue: ad-homs = you lose), how'bout unpacking that nonsense and spelling it out? 

Assertion: gang violence kills more young black men than police do.  That's an assertion of fact.  If you don't like it, you're welcome to try to disprove it.  Go get some numbers.

Question: where are the protests over gang violence?  The question stands.  Show us a mass protest at a known gang house after a particularly egregious shooting. 

A young black guy I knew was killed in a drive-by.  Ever hear of Tupac Shakur?  I was one of his 2nd Engs. at Starlight Studios in Richmond.  He was ferociously brilliant.  Murdered at age 25.

"Privileged": about 1/3 of SudoRoom members are unemployed and many are borderline homeless.  Admittedly that's a rough estimate.  But if you don't like my numbers, get some better ones. 

Full-time jobs at decent wages would be a good thing:  What don't you like about that?  Gandhi once said "Western civilization would be a good thing."  I say worker solidarity would be a good thing.  But you can't have worker solidarity until people have work.  A job at decent wages isn't a privilege, it's a human right.  And hackers picking up more trade-skills is also a good thing.

Let's take this to private email so we don't digress the list. 

-G.



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On 13-02-28-Thu 8:35 AM, hep wrote:



On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Anon195714 <anon195714@sbcglobal.net> wrote:



As for comparing "'known gang member'" to "the more privileged class": that's postmodern BS.  The #1 killer of young black men in Oakland isn't police bullets but gang bullets.  So where are the outraged protests in front of known gang enclaves, eh?  This isn't an abstraction: a young black man I knew was killed in a drive-by.  As for "privileged class," about 1/3 of SudoRoom members are unemployed, and many are borderline-homeless.  A few more "privileges," such as full-time jobs that pay decent wages, would be a good thing. 




What's up sudoroomers? Hugely concerned about all the racist, classist, and privileged BS that was spouted in this paragraph right here. 

-hep 


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