Scott,
I agree that that is a good idea.
However, I feel like your suggestion is exactly what I was trying to move forward with the BAPS backspace proposal that BAPS recently voted against moving forward with!
I personally believe it can still work, but would like to acknowledge that I already proposed this to BAPS 2 weeks ago and it was not supported.
I also attended the Commons wg on Saturday in part to build a working relationship with the Commons wg and Backspace. I ran our current proposal by the group and met with support.
Jenny, I can say more tonight at the meeting re: your questions, which are good ones (gotta go to work right now!).
Backspace is currently:
Margaretha
Myself
Andrew
Naomi
Don
We have interest from other folks but no commitments until space is resolved.
Sara
On Thursday, October 16, 2014, Scott Nanos <
scott.nanos@gmail.com> wrote:
Crazy idea but I'm also a little worried that BAPS and commons
Wg don't have the labor power to handle all this commoning (pragmatically speaking, in the form of scheduling and organizing)...
What if Baps, backspace, and commons wg all teamed up on these common spaces, granting *x* amount of privileged hours in specific areas for collectives?
Ex: Baps could take privileged hours in basement reading room/library directly related to classes on the schedule, backspace could take privilege hours in upstairs den or disco room for booked classes?
it seems much more likely to be successful if we unite? Baps and commons wg have already been discussing a mesh situation...
Ps jenny that last email warmed my <3
Xo
Scott
Hi!
I am excited by the revival of
Backspace but would love a bit more context. Who's currently involved
these days? What kind of services would the public clinics offer? Apologies
if this is a barrage of questions - just trying to get a more complete
narrative in my mind :)
This sentence really confused me - can you explain what it means?
:
We have concerns
about how much time backspace will have to do its work in the commons;
and recognize that with commons there can be no guarantees about the
amount of time, which can dramatically stymie our work.
Would Backspace members be interested in helping the Commons WG with
scheduling as part of their contribution to the functioning of the Omni
as a whole? I am confused about the interchange of 'commons' in this sentence and then how it's used in the next:
There
are other collectives at the omni who have a lot of dedicated,
non-shared space to do their necessary work. Part of our proposal is to
offer the den in part as a commons, which is a new way of using space in
the Omni, and an important moment to model how this can be done. I
really hope that this radical sharing is not being overlooked
It's a good thing we're dedicating a 20 whole minutes of tomorrow's meeting to a better
understanding of this word ;P Perhaps it would be productive and timely
to organize an Omni-wide unconference on the subject!
Other than
TIL, I can't think of a single member-group in the Omni that has "a lot
of dedicated, non-shared space to do their necessary work." What
collective(s) are you referring to?
Like, this past
weekend sudo was hosting a BACH unconference all over the building, and
whoever was around Friday night from a bunch of collectives or whatever,
unaffiliated, helped manage a plumbing emergency with a backed up drain
in the basement kitchen (joe had accidentally dropped a rag down the
drain! and he totally admitted it and is going to pay for the emergency
plumber we called in! mad love!) - fast-forward to Sunday morning
cooking pots of food for lunch while La Commune folks were cooking
brunch side-by-side, Scott was making music in the cafe and FNB-Chris
was making mad delicious salsas for BACH folks and the rest of the FNB
crew was working on the kitchen in the basement, sudo shared some eggs w/ la commune
and they had exactly the same number we lent them left over by the end
of the brunch! and we had tacos for all the brunchlings who were too
busy making food to eat it! radical sharing fuck yeah!!!
Ahem!
So, if I grok you correctly, I think this is similar to the reasoning
behind BAPS' proposal for dedicated space that it would steward for
common, shared use - that's great! My only concern is that there may not
be enough Backspace members to take on such a responsibility, while the
Commons WG also needs support. I'd like to echo Niki's request for
clarity on how you intend to 'commons' the space, and ask how we as a
community can help your needs be met.
[geek segue how do we go from a CSMA --> TDMA mode of sharing space? :) ]
Much love,
Jenny
--
Let us be together,
Let us eat together,
Let us be vital together,
Let us be radiating truth,
radiating the light of life,
Never shall we denounce anyone,
never entertain negativity. -- The Upanishads