I'm guessing this has to do with the fact that email is very difficult to do
without constant maintenance and that even if messages are being sent out,
they're likely getting spam-canned. Off the top of my head, the solution could
be to make the messages go directly to a small mailinglist so that humans can
see the messages and then send a personal reminder to whomever fell off of
their tithing.
but I can't really understand how the code of sudo-humans works, so I have to
defer to people who have contributed and are offering to contribute. But I do
have access to the server it's running on.
Patrik, is there a github issue specific to that problem?
-jake
On Fri, 9 Apr 2021, Patrik D'haeseleer wrote:
> The lack of notifications to members or admins if anything goes wrong with
> payments has long been on top of my list of peeves with sudo humans...
>
> Patrik
>
> On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 12:12 AM Jake <jake@spaz.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> My sudo humans payment stopped working around the same exact time, but i'm
>> pretty sure it's because my card went missing and I got a new one at that
>> time,
>> but it could be a coincidence and that sudo humans and/or stripe has had
>> problems that we didn't realize.
>>
>> Does anyone know if we get emails from stripe about cards being rejected /
>> automatic payments failing? Who is maintaining sudo humans?
>>
>> Ed, if you're unable to login, is it possible that there's a capitalization
>> issue with your login name? The system is case-dependant.
>>
>> I was able to log in recently so I think the system is at least partially
>> working. If you are still unable to get in, I am willing to work on it
>> with
>> you over the phone, you have my number and we're both on Signal.
>>
>> I'm also trying to find other people who are more qualified to help with
>> this.
>>
>> sudo-humans is important! it's how we get our money so sudoroom and
>> omni-commons can continue to exist.
>>
>> -jake
>>
>> On Mon, 5 Apr 2021, Ed Biow wrote:
>>
>>> Wonder what is going on. It looks like sudohumans was working for me
>> until
>>> October:
>>>
>>> 10/28/2020
>>> XX3735 DDA RECURR SUDO ROOM OAKLAND CA 00383493 995809
>>>
>>> -
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it still working for other people?
>>>
>>> I wanted to check my account status so I went to
>> https://sudoroom.org/humans/
>>>
>>> My username and password were rejected. Are other folks able to log in?
>>>
>>> I gave John Torok a check a couple of weeks ago, so at least my dues
>> have
>>> been covered in the interim, and I should be fully Pfizered by the end
>> of the
>>> month, so I can lay out some more bread in meatspace, but sudohumans may
>> be
>>> having issues.
>>>
>>> On a doganal note, Einstein will be Sweet 16 on Thursday if he is
>> spared, but
>>> he hasn't been able to handle the stairs for about 6 weeks, so we've
>> been
>>> living in the backyard in a tent and then then migrated to a shed. Gobs
>> of
>>> fun.
>>>
>>> E²
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/5/21 5:36 PM, Yardena Cohen wrote:
>>>> Apparently we stopped paying rent 6 months ago and nobody noticed
>>>> because they were reading quickbooks wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody wanna solve this? I call not it.
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>>>
>>> Is god willing to prevent evil but not able? Then he is not omnipotent.
>> Is he
>>> able but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and
>> willing?
>>> Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call
>> him
>>> god? - Epicurus (341-270 BCE)
>>>
>>> _-^--^=-_
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>>> \._ _./
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