i have a few thoughts on this, quite.  am brainstorming.  am very interested in helping to bring about the best of all possible outcomes.


that being said, let me say that i do not think that it is the stuff that is keeping people away.  perhaps the size of the radio room, but not the stuff.  i myself find myself being protective more than inviting, because i love SR so much, and have seen a bit of the world and the depths to which the social can fall.


That being said, i will invite more freely...


but back to the topic.  my thoughts:


i know that the space that there is can be wayyyy better utilized, because my honey folded space for me at our house, and he is a genius at it.  i could get into getting that ball in motion -- getting a consultation and a battle plan together by having him do a walkthrough and then taking notes  ---  and submit that to the general Eye.  


As far as tickets and recycling, could there also be a way to sticker the things we would want if they were not others' keepers?  somehow i think thatt would help if the idea was to liquidate....


also it should be considered having a biweekly or monthly 'yard' sale.  another think i would be willing to help with, even if it was off site, like at the coliseum.


but mostly i wanted to say that i do not think there is too much stuff there.  heh heh not by a long shot.....


because a little bird told me that a whole bunch of choice electrical equipment was going to be coming the SR way....  old school stuff, from the middle of the last century --  and i didn't realize that, with as little as you had, you already thought you had too much....  i guess i thought that being a repository-slash-library was part of the community service of a hackerspace...


and so i hope i have not gotten any of this too wrong.  certainly i mean no offense, and welcome the conversation.....



On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 4:55 PM, rusty lindgren <rustylindgren@gmail.com> wrote:
Jonathan...  I agree we should focus on the execution, and I think once we have a consensus, and we advertise the events more... more people will show up. 

I can't lift a lot(part of my general frustration with the world right now), but I'm down to help design the new space, and help cook and provide cleaning during that time to help out. 

-Rusty


On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Jonathan Levin <jdlevin@gmail.com> wrote:
2˘:

The problem Rusty mentioned is something that I think several Sudoers
tried to solve at the beginning of August with the deep
clean/reorganization weekend that we had.

If the general consensus is that the
organization/crowding/cleanliness/etc. problem still exists, I think
that a good starting point of discussion would be to address the
successes and rooms-for-improvement of our recent attempt to solve it.

In my opinion we should just have big clean days more often

-Jonathan

On Sun, 2013-08-25 at 21:40 -0700, rusty lindgren wrote:
> Hey Guys,
>
> I feel like we have a problem and I want to put out there, along with
> what I think is a really reasonable and well thought out solution.
>
>
> Problem:
>
>
> In my opinion there is way too much stuff at SudoRoom, and it's just
> unfocused and messy.
>
>
> I think it's a roadblock to membership.  We aren't equipped to deal
> with this much stuff, and we don't have room for people to be in the
> space.
>
>
> Solution(s):
>
>
> One solution is to have a party where we donate, recycle, and throw
> out things we don't need, in order to make room for a new design of
> the space that accomodates more members and makes the space more
> usable.
>
>
> As part of that we could hand out green stickers to put on things we
> want to keep, and if people put stickers on things, then we can keep
> them.  We could also hand out a limited amount of red stickers of
> things that people want to see leave the space, and we could bring up
> those items at a meeting.
>
> We could pool resources to pay for a dumpster, and uhaul truck.
>  Obviously, throwing things away would be a last resort, and donating
> would be preferred.
>
>
> I'm open to other solutions, but this is where I have gotten with
> other members so far.
>
> Fire away!
>
>
> Rusty
>
>
>
>
>
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