2 Dec
2013
2 Dec
'13
11:53 a.m.
Dear Sudo folk.
Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of the common area has
deterred their ability to rent out the other units in the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway.
Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area Public School), who
preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 Broadway, has moved his office in
frustration over the common area, in particular as a result of people consistently
sleeping there.
The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups unconnected with the
current tenants has also been a cause of miscommunication over our current lease. While
our landlords are in full support of our making it a popular community space, our current
practices have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used.
For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for renting/buying/creating a coop
at the current location, a listserv has been created to facilitate the development of such
a plan under the interim codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at:
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall
The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion that has been
ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities and of interest to the Sudo
Room constellation of communities. The sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be,
more accurately) the appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling
coordination to take advantage of the opportunities that come up.
Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that the new Sudo Hall
list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing like-minded groups for shared and
common purposes; and the exploration of physical spaces where this collective of
collectives finds its home(s).
Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in the immediate term
are those who could make best use of the dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden
floor in between Sudo Room and the Bay Area Public School.
It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their complementary purposes can
minimize friction between competing interests and ideas and rather serve to enable
cooperative planning in a transparent way while not interfering with all the projects that
are ongoing. The general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical
junctures in the evolution of developing plans.
sent from eddan.com
2 Dec
2 Dec
9:39 p.m.
Thanks Eddan, I've subscribed to sudohall.
I think it is nice to have a more serious list - the discussions on
sudoDiscuss are not so action-oriented.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote:
Dear Sudo folk.
Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of the
common area has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in the
Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway.
Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area
Public School), who preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141
Broadway, has moved his office in frustration over the common area, in
particular as a result of people consistently sleeping there.
The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups unconnected
with the current tenants has also been a cause of miscommunication over our
current lease. While our landlords are in full support of our making it a
popular community space, our current practices have diverged from their
hopes of how they want the space to be used.
For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for
renting/buying/creating a coop at the current location, a listserv has been
created to facilitate the development of such a plan under the interim
codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at:
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall
The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion
that has been ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities
and of interest to the Sudo Room constellation of communities. The
sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be, more accurately) the
appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling coordination to
take advantage of the opportunities that come up.
Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that
the new Sudo Hall list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing
like-minded groups for shared and common purposes; and the exploration of
physical spaces where this collective of collectives finds its home(s).
Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in the
immediate term are those who could make best use of the dance/yoga/pilates
studio space with the wooden floor in between Sudo Room and the Bay Area
Public School.
It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their
complementary purposes can minimize friction between competing interests
and ideas and rather serve to enable cooperative planning in a transparent
way while not interfering with all the projects that are ongoing. The
general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical
junctures in the evolution of developing plans.
sent from eddan.com
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3 Dec
3 Dec
1:10 p.m.
update --
George said he was available to meet in the late afternoon any day this week to talk about
possibilities for rental/purchase/co-op for the whole Sudo wing of the building.
I wanted to know if anyone else was interested in joining this conversation.
Wednesday would be most convenient for me.
--
In regards to the use of hall(a)lists.sudoroom.org - here are some preliminary ideas I had:
Increase transparency.
It would be useful to get some ideas kicked around about how to possibly structure this
and see what Sudo Hall can try and bargain for in terms of gradual increase in rent and
other innovative incentives such as those PopUp Oakland have been negotiating for on
behalf of their community partners.
Get a reasonable sense of timelines and flesh out what is involved in more complicated
arrangements - such as the equity sale to institutional (groups) membership as a
cooperative corporation.
On Dec 2, 2013, at 9:39 PM, Romy Ilano <romy(a)snowyla.com> wrote:
Thanks Eddan, I've subscribed to sudohall.
I think it is nice to have a more serious list - the discussions on sudoDiscuss are not
so action-oriented.
On Mon, Dec 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM, eddan.com <eddan(a)sudoroom.tv> wrote:
Dear Sudo folk.
Our landlords have expressed their frustration that our current use of the common area
has deterred their ability to rent out the other units in the Sudo wing of 2141 Broadway.
Apparently, Robert Wenzel - the other tenant (other than the Bay Area Public School), who
preceded all of our occupancy of the space at 2141 Broadway, has moved his office in
frustration over the common area, in particular as a result of people consistently
sleeping there.
The use of the common area as space being sub-leased to groups unconnected with the
current tenants has also been a cause of miscommunication over our current lease. While
our landlords are in full support of our making it a popular community space, our current
practices have diverged from their hopes of how they want the space to be used.
For those who are interested in exploring possibilities for renting/buying/creating a
coop at the current location, a listserv has been created to facilitate the development of
such a plan under the interim codename Sudo Hall. Please feel free to sign up at:
http://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/hall
The objective of this forum is to complement the research and discussion that has been
ongoing regarding spaces suitable for Sudo Room activities and of interest to the Sudo
Room constellation of communities. The sudospaces list can continue to be (or begin to be,
more accurately) the appropriate venue for sharing such information and enabling
coordination to take advantage of the opportunities that come up.
Given our lease renewal deadline of the end of the year, I imagine that the new Sudo Hall
list can reduce the overlapping confusion of coalescing like-minded groups for shared and
common purposes; and the exploration of physical spaces where this collective of
collectives finds its home(s).
Amongst the communities I am personally most interested in reaching in the immediate term
are those who could make best use of the dance/yoga/pilates studio space with the wooden
floor in between Sudo Room and the Bay Area Public School.
It is my hope that the prudent use of these two lists for their complementary purposes
can minimize friction between competing interests and ideas and rather serve to enable
cooperative planning in a transparent way while not interfering with all the projects that
are ongoing. The general community can be updated (through sudo-discuss) at critical
junctures in the evolution of developing plans.
sent from eddan.com
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