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rought notes of meeting at IS4CWN 2013
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*) international organisations
ISOC
RIRs (e.g. RIPE-NCC, )
*) international actions
lobbyingg
policy making
*) license
*) network map
to have a big picture
*) define what a CN is
=> which/who can be accepted at the L2org
0. Freedom to participate and to make others participate
L2 access vs L3 access => access the network vs peering with the
network => joining th commons vs extending the commons
1. Freedom to communicate using the network for any purpose without interception or interference - and free of charge
2, The
freedom to modify and improve the network, including the ability to
access, author and distribute information about how the network
functions.
? non-(private?)-profit with the network itself
not really sure if this must be at this level (could/should be placed in the licence)
Fair profit [guifi] - can be legally enforced
Transit inside the network should be free
Guifinet: Difference between Network and content. Access to the Internet is content
internally must be free. to get outside might be charged
Precaution that we maintain actual freedom - problem with Creative
COmmons is that much that is licensed under CC is not actually free
(non-commercial)
Additional concerns (very likely not to go to the def/license but as recommendations)
The freedom to know the ecologial impact of the hardware?
The right to ask for the information about the hardware?
fairness as a restriction?
running free software?
distribured property (multistakeholder)
is not a request, but it is recommended
Cannot charge a fee to interconnect the commons.
Three themes here:
Free Network
Community Network - owned by the community
Profit / Non-profit
overlay net. vs physical net
we are talking about phy
what about mixed overlay+phy networks (e.g. fon)?
difference between the picopeer agr and our efforts
*)*) licence
FNF proposal
creative-commons-like incremental license proposed by Mitar at Oakland (?) suggestion: confront with statistics of CC in terms for flavours used
examples of additional clauses:
- free software only
- ecological footprint
- not for profit
- owned by the users?
Membership
???
=Action Items=
* Isaac: Take 'owned by its users' out of the preamble
* Annemarie will pass around suggestions for legal frameworks
* Isaac: compare the picopeer agr and our def
* roger: rewrites these notes and sends them to the ml
* christian: contacts a RIPE college
* jenny: send notes to the list