Sudo Room - User contributions [en]

Chromebook Unlocking / Laptop De-branding

2024-02-20T19:57:05Z

Cel: /* Tested Linux Distributions */ Void

[[File:Laptop refurb.JPG|thumb]]

=== Chromebooks ===
The Chromebooks (Dell Chromebook 11s) are still locked by FUSD. Until they unlock them for us, we have been getting around the problem by reflashing their BIOS chips.

We have USB programmers and adapters necessary to do this. The process is outlined here: https://wiki.mrchromebox.tech/Unbricking

An ongoing project is to make a jig with the laser cutter and pogo pins, so that we can reach the BIOS chip from the front side of the motherboard.

====Tested Linux Distributions====
These chromebooks only have only 16GB SSD. We also are expecting to give these out to the public so we are trying to find light-weight but also user friendly linux distributions to recommend. A good option is to extend space with a usb drive, but we have been testing just with internal SSD.

[[File:Mx audio.JPG|thumb]]
[[File:antiX audio.JPG|thumb]]

So far we have tested
* MX Linux 23 - everything works (including audio) out of box. distribution is ~8GB
* Lubuntu (unknown version...was old) - everything works, including audio out of box.
* PeppermintOS - everything works (including audio) out of box
* debian 12 with LXQT - everything works (including audio) out of the box. 2/3 disk used after install
* Zorin 16.3 - tested, no audio output from speaker
* Alpine - tested, no audio output from speaker
* antiX 22 and 23 beta - lightweight but have not been able to figure out audio out to speakers
* Puppy - also no audio to speakers
* Debian 11 live with XFCE - no audio to speakers
* Arch Linux - audio OK with PipeWire. 4.4GB used including Firefox and LibreOffice
* Pop!_OS - 20Gb mini drive storage requirement (which is greater than chromebooks 16Gb), but runs audio OK from a live USB
* Void Linux with XFCE - no speaker audio

=== Dell Latitudes E6420 ===
We are going through the Dell Latitudes and updating their firmware to latest version before giving out. As of Sep 10, 2023, half have been updated and are ready to be flashed with Linux and given out.

We are planning an event to try and refresh them/ get some creatives in the greater of omni commons generally in Sudo Room to de-brand these laptops with stickers/vinyl skins. We have some laser-safe vinyl that we can cut with our laser cutter. Most need a good cleaning, and some of their palm wrests are wearing down. We can create a laser template to make a skin over the palm wrest. Cleaning with soap or isopropyl seems to make the problem worse.

=== Also see ===

* USPIRG’s petition to extend the life of Chromebooks: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc-QGoW0UzE0t0oUsKzM6Xsxft1kHM-d6boyLS0UAGvwagUWA/viewform
* For more background see “Chromebook Churn”: https://pirg.org/edfund/resources/chromebook-churn-report-highlights-problems-of-short-lived-laptops-in-schools/
* And Fixit Clinic's efforts to keep already AUEed Chrombooks in service as general purpose computing devices:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JSbGXhJFJeABWVOn1wO4M6bPT-gPBLV4oQ85xMyvYtM/edit

Chromebook Unlocking / Laptop De-branding

2024-02-20T01:47:12Z

Cel: /* Tested Linux Distributions */ Arch Linux tested

[[File:Laptop refurb.JPG|thumb]]

=== Chromebooks ===
The Chromebooks (Dell Chromebook 11s) are still locked by FUSD. Until they unlock them for us, we have been getting around the problem by reflashing their BIOS chips.

We have USB programmers and adapters necessary to do this. The process is outlined here: https://wiki.mrchromebox.tech/Unbricking

An ongoing project is to make a jig with the laser cutter and pogo pins, so that we can reach the BIOS chip from the front side of the motherboard.

====Tested Linux Distributions====
These chromebooks only have only 16GB SSD. We also are expecting to give these out to the public so we are trying to find light-weight but also user friendly linux distributions to recommend. A good option is to extend space with a usb drive, but we have been testing just with internal SSD.

[[File:Mx audio.JPG|thumb]]
[[File:antiX audio.JPG|thumb]]

So far we have tested
* MX Linux 23 - everything works (including audio) out of box. distribution is ~8GB
* Lubuntu (unknown version...was old) - everything works, including audio out of box.
* PeppermintOS - everything works (including audio) out of box
* debian 12 with LXQT - everything works (including audio) out of the box. 2/3 disk used after install
* Zorin 16.3 - tested, no audio output from speaker
* Alpine - tested, no audio output from speaker
* antiX 22 and 23 beta - lightweight but have not been able to figure out audio out to speakers
* Puppy - also no audio to speakers
* Debian 11 live with XFCE - no audio to speakers
* Arch Linux - audio OK with PipeWire. 4.4GB used including Firefox and LibreOffice

=== Dell Latitudes E6420 ===
We are going through the Dell Latitudes and updating their firmware to latest version before giving out. As of Sep 10, 2023, half have been updated and are ready to be flashed with Linux and given out.

We are planning an event to try and refresh them/ get some creatives in the greater of omni commons generally in Sudo Room to de-brand these laptops with stickers/vinyl skins. We have some laser-safe vinyl that we can cut with our laser cutter. Most need a good cleaning, and some of their palm wrests are wearing down. We can create a laser template to make a skin over the palm wrest. Cleaning with soap or isopropyl seems to make the problem worse.

=== Also see ===

* USPIRG’s petition to extend the life of Chromebooks: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSc-QGoW0UzE0t0oUsKzM6Xsxft1kHM-d6boyLS0UAGvwagUWA/viewform
* For more background see “Chromebook Churn”: https://pirg.org/edfund/resources/chromebook-churn-report-highlights-problems-of-short-lived-laptops-in-schools/
* And Fixit Clinic's efforts to keep already AUEed Chrombooks in service as general purpose computing devices:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JSbGXhJFJeABWVOn1wO4M6bPT-gPBLV4oQ85xMyvYtM/edit

User:Cel

2022-07-25T18:44:20Z

Cel: Add Matrix ID

* https://sudoroom.org/humans/~cel
* https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/User:Cel
* [https://scuttlebutt.nz/ Secure Scuttlebutt]:
** <code>@f/6sQ6d2CMxRUhLpspgGIulDxDCwYD7DzFzPNr7u5AU=.ed25519</code>
** <code>@lOUVT+Phkvai9a/cCS/RKo+S9hnPAQdVixms/7ldpPA=.ed25519</code>
* [[IRC]]: <code>cel</code> ([https://libera.chat Libera Chat], [https://oftc.net/ OFTC], [https://www.w3.org/wiki/IRC W3C], [https://tilde.chat/ tilde.chat])
* [[Matrix]]: [https://matrix.to/#/@cel:fosdem.org @cel:fosdem.org]

Meetings

2021-06-07T01:25:04Z

Cel: /* Archive */ Add 2021-06-02 meeting notes

[[File:Sudo Room Meeting April 17, 2013.jpg|thumb|right|April 2013 Meeting]]
Sudoroom's official meetings are every 2nd Wednesday of the month at 6pm, or sometimes as late as 7:30. They are bureaucratic, sometimes fun, and usually more functional than rumored. We try to handle conflicts respectfully.

All other Wednesdays are [https://sudoroom.org/events/sudoroom-weekly-meeting-2016-05-25/ parties].

== Etherpad ==

We keep our agenda on an etherpad. The etherpad is projected on a big screen for everyone to see. Anyone who knows the URL can collaboratively edit it on their laptop. After the meeting, its contents are copied to our wiki - that's how we keep record. Then we clear it for the next meeting and people can add items throughout the week. Ideally someone posts a summary to the mailing list, but that doesn't always happen.

Unfortunately, in the past our etherpad has caught the attention of online troll dens who like to overwhelm it and make it unusable. For this reason, we don't post the address online. Sorry! '''These addresses''' had been used in the past, and '''are obsolete''':
* <strike>https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom</strike>
* <strike>https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroommeeting</strike>

See [[Meeting template]] when starting a new meeting!

== Future meeting topics ==

Add them at this etherpad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudo-proposals

== Archive ==

Each old meeting gets its own page, and we link to them here.

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! class="unsortable" | new member interviews
! class="unsortable" | comments
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| [[Meeting Notes 2021-06-02|2021-06-02]]
| kabirdas
| electrical and ventilation
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| | [[Meeting Notes 2021-05-26|2021-05-26]]
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| Reopening, project and event ideas
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| [[Meeting Notes 2021-05-19|2021-05-19]]
| Nik
| Reopening, access control, computers
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| [[Meeting Notes 2021-05-12|2021-05-12]]
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| Sudo Room decides to continue existing and stuff
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| [[Sudoroom_Meeting_2019_04_03|2019-04-03]]
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| discussion & consensus about GCEA proposals & paying Jenny for bookkeeping
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-04-11|2018-04-11]]
| Rich
| Steve banned, omni proposals mentioned but not discussed
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-03-14|2018-03-14]]
| Tom Levine Andrew Vaziri
| Change to membership process passed, endorsing statement from The Village to City, discussion of conflict w/ Steve
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-01-10|2018-01-10]]
| Jacques Noah
| melissa and sierk as new omni delegates;
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-12-13|2017-12-13]]
| * Adam Bredenberg Melissa Crow Pato Adam Eric Jan
| discussion of finances, omni cafe proposal discussion
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-29|2017-11-29]]
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| Another irregular meeting, with two topics of interest.
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-08|2017-11-08]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-01|2017-11-01]]
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| Not a usual meeting date, but notes were taken.
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-08-13|2017-08-13]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-08-09|2017-08-09]]
| Kyle Matt Rayc
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-07-12|2017-07-12]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-05-10|2017-05-10]]
| Corey Travis
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-03-08|2017-03-08]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-10-12|2016-10-12]]
| Vienna
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-09-14|2016-09-14]]
| T Maes Evan Short
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-08-17|2016-08-17]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-06-15|2016-06-15]]
| Eric Wen-qing Alex Yvonne
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-06-08|2016-06-08]]
| Tim Chris Lindsey
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-05-11|2016-05-11]]
| James Corey Benjamin Huang
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-04-27|2016-04-27]]
| Elliot
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| Syd
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| Abhiram Pete Forsyth Dirty Bill Chris Jamie
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-04-06|2016-04-06]]
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|rowspan=6 colspan=2 align=center|We totally flaked for the entire month of March.
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-02-24|2016-02-24]]
| ''(none)''
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| bstack
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-01-27|2016-01-27]]
| Jay
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-01-20|2016-01-20]]
| ''(none)''
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| nathan Nick
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2015-12-30|2015-12-30]]
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| First meeting in our new space @ 4799 Shattuck!
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| 2014-06-25
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2014-06-18|2014-06-18]]
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[[Category:SudoRoom Organization]][[Category:Meetings]]

Meeting Notes 2021-06-02

2021-06-07T01:24:44Z

Cel: Add meeting notes

Sudo Room Meeting, 2021-06-02 6pm

= Info =
* Announcement: https://sudoroom.org/lists/private/sudo-discuss/2021-June/015821.html
* Previous: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2021-05-26
* Online and in person

== Agenda ==

* Intros
* Re-opening
* Paying Omni
* Update from Omni Commons

= Attendees =
Intros: who are you (name/nym, pronouns) and what have you been up to?
*
* tim: in massachussets, building out hackerspaces in a couple of locations, software, offgrid, power electronics, measurement systems. in a barn built in 1800s. 70 miles from boston. two levels on it, upper level where all the machines are gonna go.
* nick, mainly interested in IT security, how it can be used to help social causes, also tinkery things like effect pedals, satellite ground station,
* kabirdas: first time here, also relatively new to coding and it and things like that, been wanting to move more in this direction, looking for ideas about how to do it in a community focused way, mostly here to listen in and get insipration,
* charles: been in bay area for 7 years now, software engineer, started out in embedded, been doing web in bay area, mostly javascript, in free time work on digital electronics stuff, kinda don't want to do more software in the evenings. topics i'm interested in: distributed systems
* carl: long time sudo room and noisebridge member, i'm in hayward. software. mobile apps. do some work for internet archive. and i made the leds behind me.
* angle: hardware hacking tuesdays, electronics teacher, HAS DUCKS
* jake: in Oakland, I want people to install the cylindrical ventilation fan (presently resting under the stairs in sudoroom) onto the roof over sudoroom, in one of the circular holes that are presently set up as passive vents. Interested volunteers should email [jake]

= Notes =
electrical: about half way through. 2-3 more panels to do. If you want to help do hardcode panel replacement work, contact jake

there is a cylindrical ventilation fan under the stairs that should be installed on the roof. if anyone wants to work on that they can talk to jake. ventilating the room would be great.

Meetings

2021-05-27T02:30:17Z

Cel: Add 2021-05-26 notes

[[File:Sudo Room Meeting April 17, 2013.jpg|thumb|right|April 2013 Meeting]]
Sudoroom's official meetings are every 2nd Wednesday of the month at 6pm, or sometimes as late as 7:30. They are bureaucratic, sometimes fun, and usually more functional than rumored. We try to handle conflicts respectfully.

All other Wednesdays are [https://sudoroom.org/events/sudoroom-weekly-meeting-2016-05-25/ parties].

== Etherpad ==

We keep our agenda on an etherpad. The etherpad is projected on a big screen for everyone to see. Anyone who knows the URL can collaboratively edit it on their laptop. After the meeting, its contents are copied to our wiki - that's how we keep record. Then we clear it for the next meeting and people can add items throughout the week. Ideally someone posts a summary to the mailing list, but that doesn't always happen.

Unfortunately, in the past our etherpad has caught the attention of online troll dens who like to overwhelm it and make it unusable. For this reason, we don't post the address online. Sorry! '''These addresses''' had been used in the past, and '''are obsolete''':
* <strike>https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom</strike>
* <strike>https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroommeeting</strike>

See [[Meeting template]] when starting a new meeting!

== Future meeting topics ==

Add them at this etherpad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudo-proposals

== Archive ==

Each old meeting gets its own page, and we link to them here.

{| class="wikitable sortable collapsible"
! colspan="3"| Past Meeting Notes
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! data-sort-type="isoDate" | date
! class="unsortable" | new member interviews
! class="unsortable" | comments
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| [[Meeting Notes 2021-05-26|2021-05-26]]
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| Reopening, project and event ideas
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| [[Meeting Notes 2021-05-19|2021-05-19]]
| Nik
| Reopening, access control, computers
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| [[Meeting Notes 2021-05-12|2021-05-12]]
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| Sudo Room decides to continue existing and stuff
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| [[Sudoroom_Meeting_2019_04_03|2019-04-03]]
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| discussion & consensus about GCEA proposals & paying Jenny for bookkeeping
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-04-11|2018-04-11]]
| Rich
| Steve banned, omni proposals mentioned but not discussed
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-03-14|2018-03-14]]
| Tom Levine Andrew Vaziri
| Change to membership process passed, endorsing statement from The Village to City, discussion of conflict w/ Steve
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-01-10|2018-01-10]]
| Jacques Noah
| melissa and sierk as new omni delegates;
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-12-13|2017-12-13]]
| * Adam Bredenberg Melissa Crow Pato Adam Eric Jan
| discussion of finances, omni cafe proposal discussion
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-29|2017-11-29]]
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| Another irregular meeting, with two topics of interest.
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-08|2017-11-08]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-01|2017-11-01]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-08-13|2017-08-13]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-08-09|2017-08-09]]
| Kyle Matt Rayc
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-07-12|2017-07-12]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-05-10|2017-05-10]]
| Corey Travis
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-10-12|2016-10-12]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-09-14|2016-09-14]]
| T Maes Evan Short
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-06-08|2016-06-08]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-05-11|2016-05-11]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-04-27|2016-04-27]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2016-04-06|2016-04-06]]
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|rowspan=6 colspan=2 align=center|We totally flaked for the entire month of March.
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2015-11-18|2015-11-18]]
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| Ari
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| david
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| Benji
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2014-12-31|2014-12-31]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2014-11-26|2014-11-26]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2014-10-29|2014-10-29]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2014-10-27|2014-10-27]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2014-07-02|2014-07-02]]
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| First meeting in our new space @ 4799 Shattuck!
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| 2014-06-25
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| big moving day, no meeting notes
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2014-06-18|2014-06-18]]
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| [[Meeting Notes 2014-04-30|2014-04-30]]
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| [[Meeting Notes 2014-04-23|2014-04-23]]
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| Joint mtg w/ [http://counterculturelabs.org/ CCL]
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| [[Meeting Notes 2014-04-16|2014-04-16]]
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| [[Meeting Notes 2014-04-09|2014-04-09]]
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| [[Meeting Notes 2014-03-26|2014-03-26]]
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[[Category:SudoRoom Organization]][[Category:Meetings]]

Meeting Notes 2021-05-26

2021-05-27T02:29:20Z

Cel:

Sudo Room Meeting, 2021-05-26 6pm

= Info =
* Announcement: https://sudoroom.org/lists/private/sudo-discuss/2021-May/015810.html
* Previous: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2021-05-19
* On Jitsi + Mumble. Marc at the Space

== Agenda ==

* Ongoing projects
* Paying Omni back
* Possible to visit the space?

= Attendees =
Intros: who are you (name/nym, pronouns) and what have you been up to?
* marc/juul: hello. lost a "u" because someone took nick name on new IRC server. I do bio hacking things, also do normal hacking things. lately researching various decentralized protocols, trying to get a lay of the land what people are working on, also interested in mesh networking, general wireless connectivity. i like working at the intersection of bio-hacking and electronics/IT. at home, tearing down existing tech, to make cheaper versions or reuse.
* Tim: I have a number of interests. Off grid, sustainable environments. Current in M part-time, heading back to Bay Area. Setting up hacker bench, have signal analyzer(?) set up, setting up separate hacker station, have 3D printers, robot. Hang printer.
* cel: I'm cel or charles or charlie and I'm working as a software developer doing things with cryptography. Verifiable credentials and decentralized identifiers.
* nick: I've recently moved from germany to the bay area for my job which is for self driving cars. I work for a company called Bosch. I'm trying to make new connections or connect to people in the are who are like-minded. I'm interested in security-realted things and like philosphies like right to repair. Also how collectives are organized in the U.S. In germany i was involved with a group that focused on environmental sustainability and we'd have an event each year. Last thing I wanted to work in back in germany was a satellite groundstation for receiving audio signals that can then be converted to the visible space.
* Carl: still a sudo room member but have not visited in a long time.
* Tim: connecting Riobe(?) batteries - 12V inverter, portable power source.
* Yar waves

= Notes =

* Xiamo Routers at Space - may get OpenWRT support, to get gigabyte wifi at Omni
* cel asks about meeting topics
* Nik: OSInt
* Check Omni meeting notes - few days ago. No new things to decide on?
* Possible to visit the space?
* CCL Bio safety quiz. Do same thing, or something similar? They have a signin sheet and thermometer on the wall, people sign in and say if had no symptoms. Thermometer in common area, so can reuse Have to complete quiz with maximum number of wrong answers to get access. Quiz might not be required anymore.
* June 15th - things reopening?
* Marc to send email about reopening.

== Events we could bring back ==
* Event space opportunities. Basement, ballroom, etc..
* Hardware Hack Night
* Mesh Networking - not at full strength right now since a lot of people moved away during the Pandemic
* Previous events we might revive: Five Minutes of Fame. like Noisebridge. Fun social event, snacks. Marc would like to do this again. "What have you done during the pandemic?" ("Nothing")
** Monthly meetups to teach journalists and people how to... encrypt communication, understand risk factors.

* Q: Moving advice. Are there cool co-op things?
* Matt S. - one of co-founders of Sudo - knows more about Co-ops. Hard to get into them; can take years. We can try to connect you with people.

== Fundraiser ==

Marc requested what people are working on. Got one thing back with photos from one person. Can come by, or do something together, film something, for a crowdfunding campaign. If anything you have filmed or anything, get in touch.
cel creenshotted the meeting with Carl's cat in the picture.

=== Project ideas ===

==== Wall of batteries ====

Tim interested in Batteries, Power supplies. Landless people's group - source of power for remote situations, off-grid, can be done cheaply. Could present idea of a power wall made of dozens of these. Living off-grid for years using Lead-acid battery... this is a better way to do it.

==== Decentralized hackerspace ====

Idea of decentralization... Search for decentralized hacker space: Sudo Room comes up top in search - don't know why. What is the meaning of decentralization? Idea to hook up remotely... hacker benches. Instead of thinking of a single space like Omni, have something to collaborate without a single space.

Debugging relatively small devices to set up mini hackerspace.

Marc: considering building a decentralized tool for inventory items in homes and hackerspaces. Worked with Tim on similar idea before, for bio. Recently reinvigorated codebased for laboratory management system for Covid testing company.
Inventory is huge for hackerspaces. But becoming difficult for individuals. Accumulate so much stuff, can't find anything. Have 10000 small items, hard to find. If making inventory for self, might as well share with friends. Jenny had idea for mycelia: dating system for projects. Ideas could be combined. Starting simple is good. Idea: set up chat server, Mattermost, for Sudo Room. Omni-wide? Want pre-channel notifications? If certain settings per-instance, might not make sense to share in entirety of Omni.

Where are people with expertise in batteries? Solar power... Power/electronics systems people. Had hardware hack night online - could restart that.

== Re-opening ==

Re-opening training used by CCL:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JN8BtGOX8A8iuRGzPnddD66HpvM2f3BF/view

Quiz used by CCL:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdhMzXcGWxVTscyCWhLIkY8sGmPF5E33CaKZRXFkxtqw7s36w/viewform

Require quiz? Or just ask read through the training. Have people send email so someone can reactivate their card.

June 15th reopening soon. Daily Show to have first live audience soon.

Vaccines.. Booster shot needed?

Should sync with CCL? Omni also has its own rules which are less strict.

Marc thought Patrick said screening was because of previous requirement no longer in place about training employees.

Temperature checks... not useful? Accurate thermometers very expensive. Just to tell you had a smaller fever you weren't aware of. One at CCL measures 1 degree less than actual. Depends on distance. May be misleading?

If had vaccine, need to take same precautions?

Marc says having food in Sudo Room probably a bad idea. Having drink probably a good idea.

How to reactivate card? State you've read the thing, email here. Who manages the cards? A bunch of us, maybe a mailing list.

Noisebridge has been having meetings.

CCL: wants to keep us at 25% capacity - 6 people there, 6 people here. We could ask to change that once we've gone further.

cel and carl think it sounds good.

== Update from Omni Commons ==

https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2021/05/20_Delegates

NOMA approved as a fiscally sponsored project. Noma has been running the Free Store.

There was concerned raised by FYE collective - about their document, saying ensuring people of Color had Equity - while the people listed as leadership were White. FYE blocked.

Board elections coming up for Omni. These roles have no power unless it's a dire emergency. There is Officer's Insurance. Current board is John, Jane, and Rob. Next meeting hopefully we will have people interested. Jenny interested in being Treasurer. John to stay as President. Legal requirements.

Meeting Notes 2021-05-26

2021-05-27T02:27:17Z

Cel: Add meeting notes

Sudo Room Meeting, 2021-05-26 6pm

= Info =
* Announcement: https://sudoroom.org/lists/private/sudo-discuss/2021-May/015810.html
* Previous: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2021-05-19
* On Jitsi + Mumble. Marc at the Space

== Agenda ==

* Ongoing projects
* Paying Omni back
* Possible to visit the space?

= Attendees =
Intros: who are you (name/nym, pronouns) and what have you been up to?
* marc/juul: hello. lost a "u" because someone took nick name on new IRC server. I do bio hacking things, also do normal hacking things. lately researching various decentralized protocols, trying to get a lay of the land what people are working on, also interested in mesh networking, general wireless connectivity. i like working at the intersection of bio-hacking and electronics/IT. at home, tearing down existing tech, to make cheaper versions or reuse.
* Tim: I have a number of interests. Off grid, sustainable environments. Current in M part-time, heading back to Bay Area. Setting up hacker bench, have signal analyzer(?) set up, setting up separate hacker station, have 3D printers, robot. Hang printer.
* cel: I'm cel or charles or charlie and I'm working as a software developer doing things with cryptography. Verifiable credentials and decentralized identifiers.
* nick: I've recently moved from germany to the bay area for my job which is for self driving cars. I work for a company called Bosch. I'm trying to make new connections or connect to people in the are who are like-minded. I'm interested in security-realted things and like philosphies like right to repair. Also how collectives are organized in the U.S. In germany i was involved with a group that focused on environmental sustainability and we'd have an event each year. Last thing I wanted to work in back in germany was a satellite groundstation for receiving audio signals that can then be converted to the visible space.
* Carl: still a sudo room member but have not visited in a long time.
* Tim: connecting Riobe(?) batteries - 12V inverter, portable power source.

= Notes =

* Xiamo Routers at Space - may get OpenWRT support, to get gigabyte wifi at Omni
* cel asks about meeting topics
* Nik: OSInt
* Check Omni meeting notes - few days ago. No new things to decide on?
* Possible to visit the space?
* CCL Bio safety quiz. Do same thing, or something similar? They have a signin sheet and thermometer on the wall, people sign in and say if had no symptoms. Thermometer in common area, so can reuse Have to complete quiz with maximum number of wrong answers to get access. Quiz might not be required anymore.
* June 15th - things reopening?
* Marc to send email about reopening.

== Events we could bring back ==
* Event space opportunities. Basement, ballroom, etc..
* Hardware Hack Night
* Mesh Networking - not at full strength right now since a lot of people moved away during the Pandemic
* Previous events we might revive: Five Minutes of Fame. like Noisebridge. Fun social event, snacks. Marc would like to do this again. "What have you done during the pandemic?" ("Nothing")
** Monthly meetups to teach journalists and people how to... encrypt communication, understand risk factors.

* Q: Moving advice. Are there cool co-op things?
* Matt S. - one of co-founders of Sudo - knows more about Co-ops. Hard to get into them; can take years. We can try to connect you with people. Could

== Fundraiser ==

Marc requested what people are working on. Got one thing back with photos from one person. Can come by, or do something together, film something, for a crowdfunding campaign. If anything you have filmed or anything, get in touch.
cel creenshotted the meeting with Carl's cat in the picture.

=== Project ideas ===

==== Wall of batteries ====

Tim interested in Batteries, Power supplies. Landless people's group - source of power for remote situations, off-grid, can be done cheaply. Could present idea of a power wall made of dozens of these. Living off-grid for years using Lead-acid battery... this is a better way to do it.

==== Decentralized hackerspace ====

Idea of decentralization... Search for decentralized hacker space: Sudo Room comes up top in search - don't know why. What is the meaning of decentralization? Idea to hook up remotely... hacker benches. Instead of thinking of a single space like Omni, have something to collaborate without a single space.

Debugging relatively small devices to set up mini hackerspace.

Marc: considering building a decentralized tool for inventory items in homes and hackerspaces. Worked with Tim on similar idea before, for bio. Recently reinvigorated codebased for laboratory management system for Covid testing company.
Inventory is huge for hackerspaces. But becoming difficult for individuals. Accumulate so much stuff, can't find anything. Have 10000 small items, hard to find. If making inventory for self, might as well share with friends. Jenny had idea for mycelia: dating system for projects. Ideas could be combined. Starting simple is good. Idea: set up chat server, Mattermost, for Sudo Room. Omni-wide? Want pre-channel notifications? If certain settings per-instance, might not make sense to share in entirety of Omni.

Where are people with expertise in batteries? Solar power... Power/electronics systems people. Had hardware hack night online - could restart that.

== Re-opening ==

Re-opening training used by CCL:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JN8BtGOX8A8iuRGzPnddD66HpvM2f3BF/view

Quiz used by CCL:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdhMzXcGWxVTscyCWhLIkY8sGmPF5E33CaKZRXFkxtqw7s36w/viewform

Require quiz? Or just ask read through the training. Have people send email so someone can reactivate their card.

June 15th reopening soon. Daily Show to have first live audience soon.

Vaccines.. Booster shot needed?

Should sync with CCL? Omni also has its own rules which are less strict.

Marc thought Patrick said screening was because of previous requirement no longer in place about training employees.

Temperature checks... not useful? Accurate thermometers very expensive. Just to tell you had a smaller fever you weren't aware of. One at CCL measures 1 degree less than actual. Depends on distance. May be misleading?

If had vaccine, need to take same precautions?

Marc says having food in Sudo Room probably a bad idea. Having drink probably a good idea.

How to reactivate card? State you've read the thing, email here. Who manages the cards? A bunch of us, maybe a mailing list.

Noisebridge has been having meetings.

CCL: wants to keep us at 25% capacity - 6 people there, 6 people here. We could ask to change that once we've gone further.

cel and carl think it sounds good.

== Update from Omni Commons ==

https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Event:2021/05/20_Delegates

NOMA approved as a fiscally sponsored project. Noma has been running the Free Store.

There was concerned raised by FYE collective - about their document, saying ensuring people of Color had Equity - while the people listed as leadership were White. FYE blocked.

Board elections coming up for Omni. These roles have no power unless it's a dire emergency. There is Officer's Insurance. Current board is John, Jane, and Rob. Next meeting hopefully we will have people interested. Jenny interested in being Treasurer. John to stay as President. Legal requirements.

Thread:Talk:Space Server/Merge/reply (4)

2021-05-22T01:43:27Z

Cel: Done.

Thanks. Merging... done.

Space Server

2021-05-22T01:38:08Z

Cel: Redirect / merge page into Space.local

#REDIRECT [[Space.local]]

Space.local

2021-05-22T01:37:18Z

Cel: Merge content from Space Server page

This is the sudo room shell server and former [[Network]] gateway. It is located in the sudo room server "room". As of 2021-05-21, it is offline due to a network issue.

*External hostname: room.sudoroom.org
*Internal hostname (mDNS): meshbuild.local
*Internal IP (static): 192.168.42.1
*ssh port: 60643

It's a Dell SC1425 with:

*Dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon dual-core processors
*6 GB ram
*750 GB harddrive.

It runs the following services:

= iptables =

iptables handles port forwarding and masquerading (NAT). The configuration file is:

/etc/iptables.rules

To change this, use normal iptables commands to modify the iptables configuration and save it using:

sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules

= dnsmasq =

dnsmasq handles DNS only. It has some entries for the .sudo domain, such as stuff.sudo in the config file:

/etc/dnsmasq.conf

Look for the line:

address=/stuff.sudo/192.168.42.1

= dhcpd =

dhcpd is our dhcp server. The config file is:

/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf

= web server =

nginx is the web server and reverse proxy. It has a few virtual hosts. They are defined in:

/etc/nginx/sites-available

with symlinks in:

/etc/nginx/sites-enabled

and files served from:

/var/www/<virtual-host-name>

== default (e.g: http://room.sudoroom.org) ==

The only thing currently on here is http://room.sudoroom.org/wakemesh.php which lets people remotely boot the sudo mesh build server.

== stuff.sudo (internal only) ==

Our inventory tracking and labelling system. It prints labels on the Brother QL-570 thermal label printer located next to the Type A Machines 3D printer.

nginx is only reverse-proxying to the labitrack software. The labitrack software is started by:

/etc/init/labitrack.conf

Labitrack is located in:

/opt/labitrack

Labitrack runs on port 8080 and saves its data in a postgresql database. Labitrack has two parts to it: The web app itself and printloop.sh which automatically prints newly created labels on the label printer. Both the web app and printloop.sh are run by the node.js program "forever" which monitors the programs and restarts them automatically if they crash.

The documentation and source code for labitrack is here: https://github.com/sudoroom/labitrack

= postgresql =

Used by labitrack.

= SSH/SFTP =
Talk to [[User:Juul|Juul]] ([[User talk:Juul|talk]]) or another member if you want access.

[[File server|File server access via SFTP on port 60643]]

= [[Secure Scuttlebutt]] =

* [[Secure Scuttlebutt]] peer server listens on port 8008
* [[Secure_Scuttlebutt#How_to_post_to_SSB_as_@sudoer|patchfoo]] on http://localhost:8027/

= Backup =

WE HAVE NO AUTOMATIC BACKUP OF THIS SERVER. PLEASE FIX!

O:3

2021-05-22T01:36:24Z

Cel: Merging Space Server page into Space.local

#REDIRECT [[Space.local]]

File server

2021-05-22T01:35:23Z

Cel: Link to canonical page for space.local

There is a file server on [[space.local]].

It is 650 GB on an external USB harddrive and completely read/writable to anyone in the space.

= Access using SFTP =

== Ubuntu ==

Open the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus_%28file_manager%29 file manager] and in the top menu (all the way at the top of the screen) choose "File -> Connect to Server". Fill out the dialogue box like so:

*Service type: SSH
*Server: space.local
*Folder: data
*User Name: sudoer

You can choose to add a bookmark so you don't have to fill out the dialogue every time.

The password is: sudoer

== Mac OS X ==

You don't need to download any programs. Just go to your finder, scroll down to the shared area and you'll see space.
Login as a guest, no password needed.

[[File:Space.local on a Mac.png|On a mactinosh just click on finder and then you have access to space.local]]

=== FTP from a Mac ===

You can use the free [http://cyberduck.ch/ Cyberduck] program.

*Server: space.local
*Username: sudoer
*Password: sudoer

== Windows ==

On Windows, it's probably easier to use Windows filesharing (see below). If you for some reason prefer SFTP, you can use the free/open [http://winscp.net/ WinSCP] software.

*Server: space.local
*Username: sudoer
*Password: sudoer

= Access using SMB/CIFS (Windows filesharing) =

WE SWITCHED SERVERS! Some of this information maybe inaccurate, but the information for Lubuntu has been verified.

== Ubuntu (Nautilus file manager) ==

In the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nautilus_%28file_manager%29 file manager], make sure the side pane is open (if not, hit F9 to toggle the side pane). Click "Network" in the side pane, then "Windows Network", then "Workgroup", then "SPACE" and finally "sudoshare on 192.168.42.1". You can now browse the available data and upload new data by dragging the files to the window.

== Lubuntu (PCMan file manager) ==

In the file manager address field, enter:

smb://192.168.42.1/

Wait. It might take a while and it will seem like nothing is happening. Once the icons show up, double-click the sudoshare folder.

==Windows General==
[[File:Files server screeenshot.PNG|thumb|300px]]
Go to start -> run. In that box write "\\SPACE". You should see a folder. The default username/password ''guest/guest'' give you read and write access.

== Windows XP ==

Just go to "My Network Places" and "sudoroom public data on space server". You can now browse the available data and upload new data by dragging the files to the window.

If it asks for a username and password, they're both "guest" (without the quotes).

Thread:Talk:Space Server/Merge/reply (4)

2021-05-22T01:20:59Z

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Thanks. Merging...

User:Cel

2021-05-22T01:17:46Z

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2021-05-22T01:03:58Z

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I get this on [[Special:MergeHistory]]:

:Permission error
:
:You do not have permission to merge the history of this page, for the following reason:
:
:The action you have requested is limited to users in the group: [[Sudo Room:Administrators|Administrators]].

Sudoroom

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__NOTOC__
[[File:SudoMesh-2.jpg|thumb|SudoMesh over Oakland]]
[[File:SudoMesh Node.png|frameless|right|300px]]
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[[File:Sudo-intro-comic.jpg|frameless|right|300px]]

*We're '''Sudo Room''', a ''free'' hackerspace located at '''[[Directions|4799 Shattuck]]''' in north Oakland, CA!
*We're into '''technology''' and where it intersects with '''social justice''', '''sustainability''', '''education''' and '''solidarity'''.
*We strive to be an '''open''', '''transparent''', '''horizontal''' and '''welcoming''' community where all are supported and free to ''learn'', ''create'', ''gather'', ''collaborate'', ''work'', ''play'' and ''more''! .
*We've got tons of '''[[:Category:Tools|tools]]''' for you to use from a '''3D printer''' to '''public computer terminals''', [[Math]] projects, a '''big huge library''' and '''all kinds of gadgets'''!
*We are exclusively '''volunteer-run''' and supported through '''[[Gittip|donations]]'''!! Learn more about [[Membership|membership]].
*Our slogan is: '''''HACK THE PLANET!'''''
* Check out [[Projects|some of the things we are working on]]!
*Come by for a meet up or workshop (details below), or just pop in at one of our weekly parties - with food! - every Wednesday at 7pm. Second Wednesdays are meeting-flavored parties for new member applications and discussion of sudo and omni proposals.
* Way more details: [[Welcome|Welcome]]

== '''Recurring Meetups/Events''' ==
:''For the most recently-updated list of upcoming events, see: [https://sudoroom.org/calendar/ Sudo Room Calendar] and [https://omnicommons.org/calendar/ Omni Commons Global Calendar]''

{| class="wikitable" style=""
| '''[[HardwareHackNight]] Tuesdays
(6-11p)'''
| [[image:SudoRoom_hardware_hacknight.jpg|thumb|120px|A large animal will lead you through real life stuff, you digital wimps ;)]]
Come hack on hardware. build stuff! take apart small robotic animals, electronics & make things
|-
| '''[[Meetings|Sudoroom Party / Meetings]]
(Wednesdays 6p)'''
| Every 2nd Wednesday is the Official meeting of organization, bureaucracy and fun. All other Wednesdays are an informal [https://sudoroom.org/events/sudoroom-weekly-meeting-2016-05-25/ Party]
We keep our agenda on an [https://pad.riseup.net/ etherpad] and then [[Meetings#Meeting_Notes_Archive|archive the meeting minutes]]. We're a California non-profit. See our [[Articles of Association]].
|-
| '''[https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Javascript Javascript study group]
(Thursdays 7:00p)'''
| [[File:JavasScript Forest at SudoRoom.png|thumb|Sudoroom Javascript forest]] Learn, chat and hack on node.js, frontend, or whatever!
Oakland is [http://oaklandwiki.org/Javascript javascript city].
|-
| '''[[Mesh|Sudo Mesh]]
(First Tuesday of the month 7:30ish-9p)'''
| [[image:510NetworkDishes.jpg|thumb|120px|the antenna that beamed wireless packets across Lake Merritt]]
A group [[Mesh|working]] on building a [http://peoplesopen.net/ community wireless mesh network] in the East Bay. We have open meetings every week, but first Tuesdays there's no agenda, so it's a good time to come by and ask questions!
|}
Categories of Wiki pages: {{Special:Categories}}

IRC

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NOTE: a lot of people think that you can get on IRC and talk to people right away. That only works if people are in the channel you want at that very moment, and paying attention to that screen on their computer.

The reality is that most conversations in IRC happen over hours or days, so the only way to fully experience a channel such as #sudoroom is to find a way to stay logged into IRC continuously. If you have a desktop computer that stays powered on and connected to the internet, this is easy. Otherwise, you need to connect to a computer that stays on (such as a server) and leave an IRC session running there, using "screen" or "tmux" as described below.

If you log into IRC and say Hello and nobody gets back you to you for an hour, that is totally normal. If you log out five minutes after asking a question, people will make fun of you an hour later when they look at their IRC sessions.

Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is an instant messaging service that has been used on the internet since the early 1990s. IRC is made possible by the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat Internet Relay Chat Protocol (IRCP)], an application layer protocol. The chat process works on a client/server networking model. IRC clients are computer programs that a user can install on their system. These clients communicate with chat servers to transfer messages to other clients. IRC is mainly designed for group communication in discussion forums, called channels, but also allows one-on-one communication via private messages as well as chat and data transfer, including file sharing.

Many [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messaging_protocols other instant messaging services] exist, however many services are proprietary and/or rely on a centralized platform. This does not appeal to organizations that wish to establish a channel of communication that can be adopted by users without fear of unwanted regulations by the service/platform provider. Although open source protocols such as [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP XMPP (formerly Jabber)] exist, IRC continues to be used because it is lightweight and stable.

IRC consists of channels. Each channel is like a chat room, and is represented by a name that begins with '#' followed by a string that represents the primary topic of the channel. Examples: #html, #css, #javascript, #go-lang.

== Recommended Clients ==

There are many various IRC clients available for many platforms.

=== Graphical Clients ===

* Cross-platform
** [https://www.pidgin.im/download/ Pidgin]
** [https://hexchat.github.io/ HexChat]
* Mac OS X
** [https://adium.im/ Adium]

=== Command Line Interface Clients ===

These clients are intended to be used from the command line interface (CLI), also known as the "terminal".

* [https://weechat.org/ WeeChat] (also has remote graphical [https://weechat.org/about/interfaces/ interfaces])
* [https://irssi.org/ irssi]

=== More ===

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients Wikipedia: Comparison of Internet Relay Chat clients]

== Basics ==

For those that are new to IRC, itâ€™s a good idea to become familiar with the [http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html common commands] that IRC programs support. Here are a few:

{| class="wikitable"
! Command !! Example !! Description
|-
| /join #channel_name || /join #sudoroom ||Join a channel
|-
| /me <action> || /me waves hello || Announces some action
|-
| /msg <nickname> <message> || /msg juul Hey! I need some help || Send a direct message to another user
|-
| /ignore <nickname> || /ignore annoyingperson || Block someone that is harassing you
|-
|}

Although the above commands are likely to be supported by all IRC client programs, some only apply to specific clients. The following are supported by [https://irssi.org/ irssi]:

{| class="wikitable"
! Command !! Example !! Description
|-
| /help || /help || View documentation on supported commands
|-
| /help <command> || /help connect || View documentation on a specific supported command
|-
| /connect <server address> <port> || /connect irc.libera.chat 8001 || Connect to an IRC server
|-
| /set nick <nick> || /set nick someGuy2015 || Register your nickname with the IRC server/network
|-
| /set real_name <real name> || /set nick Bill Murray || Register your real name within the IRC server/network
|-
| /quit || /quit || Quits IRC program
|-
| /exit || /exit || Quits IRC program
|-
|}

See [https://irssi.org/documentation/ IRSSI Documentation] for more commands.

== Libera Chat ==

Many programming/hacking communities establish a channel on the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libera_Chat Libera.Chat IRC network] to facilitate discussions and provide support to members of their community.

=== Registering with Libera Chat ===
You can register your nickname and associate it with your email address, using the following command:

/msg nickserv REGISTER <password> <email>

You should receive a message informing you that you need to check your email account and obtain instructions to verify yourself.

You can verify your information with the NickServ by using:

/msg nickserv info

More info: https://libera.chat/guides/registration

== Persistent CLI Client ==

This section is a guide to setting up a command line based IRC client on a persistently running machine so that it stays connected within a channel even when you are not connected to the machine via SSH. This results in the ability to reconnect and view the messages in the channel that occurred even when you were not connected.

These instructions assume you are using an Ubuntu machine, and will be using the [https://irssi.org/ irssi] client.

=== Client Machine ===

You can setup a system at home and configure your home network device(s) to make that machine available via the internet, or alternatively gain shell access to a server on the internet. There are services that provide free or paid shell access, with features and support for IRC that varies. Some of these services even provide support for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC_bot IRC bots]. Alternatively you can pay for a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server Virtual Private Server (VPS)] for as low as $5 a month through services such as [digitalocean.com DigitalOcean], thus providing you with an entire UNIX-like server environment that you can use as you wish.

=== Install Client ===

Install the irssi client using the following command:

apt-get install irssi

After itâ€™s done installing, simply run the program

irssi

=== Configure ===

There is a configuration file in ~/.irssi/config that you can inspect, but you can use commands from within the program to configure IRSSI to automatically perform when you first open the program.

The following commands will configure IRSSI to connect to the Libera.Chat network with an SSL connection, with automatic joining of the #sudoroom channel.

/network add liberachat
/server add -auto -ssl -ssl_verify -ssl_capath /etc/ssl/certs -network liberachat irc.libera.chat 6697
/channel add -auto #sudoroom liberachat
/save

After youâ€™ve successfully registered your Libera.Chat nick name, you can run this command to configure IRSSI to login automatically after connecting to Libera.Chat.

/network add -autosendcmd "/msg nickserv identify <password> ;wait 2000" liberachat

=== Windows ===

irssi support separate "windows" for the different channels you are connected to, or for the different people you are chatting with. If for some reason you do not see information on the screen for a command youâ€™ve run, it may be displayed in another window.

An Ubuntu terminal can use the ALT key combined with a number key (e.g. ALT+1, ALT+2, ALT+3, etc) to switch between the different displays in IRSSI. This will not work via SSH however, so you will need to use the /window command instead.

/WINDOW NEW - Create new split window
/WINDOW NEW HIDE - Create new hidden window
/WINDOW CLOSE - Close split or hidden window

/WINDOW HIDE [<number>|<name>] - Make the split window hidden window
/WINDOW SHOW <number>|<name> - Make the hidden window a split window

/WINDOW SHRINK [<lines>] - Shrink the split window
/WINDOW GROW [<lines>] - Grow the split window
/WINDOW BALANCE - Balance the sizes of all split windows

=== Managing Process ===

You can use [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen GNU screen] or [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmux tmux] to maintain a terminal session that will persist even after you disconnect from the SSH session on your client machine.

For example, you can run 'screen' to start a screen session. Once the session is started, run any program you wish. To disconnect from the session press CTRL-A, followed by D key. You can then safely disconnect from your SSH session. When you return, use `screen -r` to reconnect.

See [http://carina.org.uk/screenirssi.shtml How to use screen and irssi] and [https://michael.lustfield.net/linux/irssi-using-screen-and-ssh IRSSI Using Screen and SSH]

More info: https://libera.chat/guides/irssi

Meeting Notes 2021-05-19

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Sudo Room Meeting, 2021-05-19 6pm

Previous: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Meeting_Notes_2021-05-12

= Info =
* Announced: https://sudoroom.org/lists/private/sudo-discuss/2021-May/015797.html
* In person and online: https://meet.jit.si/SudoRoomMeeting
* Mumble bridge: mumble://room.sudoroom.org/Meeting

== Agenda ==

* Updates from sudoers on what they've been up to!
* Deciding how to re-open sudo room for day to day activities
* Finance: Paying our Omni debt and becoming solvent
* Door access control and membership payment system improvements
* Omni IT infrastructure improvements
* Current Omni proposals
* IRC channel

= Attendees =
Intros: who are you (name/nym, pronouns) and what have you been up to?
* juul - in sudoroom right now
* Patrik - CCL reopening, currently limited to 6 at a time in the space
* Nik - new person from Stuttgart. Interested in ethical hacking, communities, activism. Interested in joining
* Ed - living in a kennel. Have done absolutely nothing over the past year.
* Tim - livng in a barn, Boston area. fixing up an old mansion from 50's
* Angle - whole lot of nothing for a year. Now electronics teacher at Crucible.
* Jenny - working non-stop. Program manager at Equalite: peer-to-peer tools for censorshp circumvention. Learning highly international collaborations
* Ian - also in Sudo right now

= Notes =

== Reopening ==
* Much cleaner - Ian been working on floors
* CCL: Arranged space to accommodate 6people with appropriate distance
* 25% occupancy = 6.25 people in CCL and 6.25 in sudo (49 person occupancy)
* Various plans for types of orgs, but none really apply to us
* So, looking at spaces with employees:
** Site-specific protection plan (needs to be posted on the wall)
** Training for anybody who's going to be in the space
*** Ask folks to read a document
*** Online quiz they need to take prior to card reactivation
** Cleaning schedule, various required cleaning activities
** Signup sheet at CCL/Sudo entrance - need to have enough info to do contact tracing
** Need to participate in at least one cleaning activity (eg bathrooms, door handles)
** Still, is honor-system based

1. Rearrange tables to accommodate individual workstations rather than one big table

* Docs guidance available for various types of events, one in particular on "Gatherings" - no guest list, no assigned seating
** CDC stilly strongly discouraging indoor gatherings, or 25% occupancy at most
** No food or drink
** Mask-wearing (controversial for vax'd, but still Omni policy)

* What about movie theaters? 50% capacity
** Guidance assuming people are minimally interacting

* Patrik: Recommendation to Omni will be that we don't change
* Omni Reopening Resources: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lINDe6awkBxiTrXc280A23OKCEp46iKTf2PegIX9Mgw/edit#
* CCL also been running a weekly COVID chat every Saturday 10-12: https://www.meetup.com/Counter-Culture-Labs/events/bjvldsycchbdc/
** Next Sat Covid Chat: https://www.meetup.com/Counter-Culture-Labs/events/bjvldsycchbdc/
* Jake: like being able to do contact tracing, accountability for who comes into the space. Copying CCL would be better than not having a plan.

== Door Access Control & Membership System ==
* So far access control only on front door. Now have electronic strike on door to CCL/Sudo as well. Still missing software - Alex working on RFID solution.
* May want to complete rework Sudo humans as well.
* Been looking into MemberMatters (FLOSS, actively maintained): https://github.com/membermatters/MemberMatters/issues/136
* David Keenan suggests having electronic access for all doors in Omni. Battery operated smart locks may be a solution.
* Patrik - Nation of Makers may have some resoures, progress there
** Juul: Also on hackerspaces.org... went through the lists, tried out the viable ones.
** https://sudoroom.org/wiki/List_of_existing_hackerspace_access_control_software

== Omni IT Infrastructure ==
* Some things died in the last heatwave. "It's just a mess"
* Ordered new gateway router with Sudomesh funds. Yar requested a second for space.local to run internal service
* Planning to order some switches to replace the one w the screaming fan
* Daniel donating a stack of POE switches from his work (picking up Friday) \o/

== Finance & Fundraising ==
* Current Omni debt: $12K (imminently $14K)
* Monthly shortfall of nearly $1K (monthly contrib is $2K)
* Transferring ~$7500 in cryptocurrency accumulated (juul & jake)
* Grant opp, $10K for community projects increasing hacker foo: https://nostarchfoundation.org/grant-application/
* Sudoers been doing a bunch of electrical work for Omni that was quoted to us by a contractor at $7500
* Jake asking David Keenan to do a walkthrough and signoff on the work quality (AA, BA) -

=== Status ===
* Bank balance: $3,250.27 (just transferred Paypal this week)
* Incoming BTC funds: $5800
* Potential forgiveness given electrical work: $7500
* Owed by Anthony for some ebay sales: $1,800

=== Crowdfunding campaign? ===
* juul willing to work on some filming & editing
* People working on anything cool>
** Jake - x-ray inside [ redacted ]
* Send juul photos/video of stuff you've bee

== IRC Channel ==
* Freenode is dead! Errybody move to Libera Chat: https://libera.chat
** https://kiwiirc.com/nextclient/irc.libera.chat/#sudoroom
* juul registered #sudoroom, jenny registered #peoplesopen.net and #disaster.radio

== Sudo Room computers ==
* Space.local
** Yar attempting to fix.
* Computers upstairs needing fixing
** Sierke is updating them.
** One of them is not turning on.
** May replace with six-core machine
** Updating Ubuntu
* Single-board computers for video playing
** Lower power consumption
* Computers should be off if not used.
** Human may turn computer off if no human operating it
** Computer should turn itself off - via system settings - or use cron job

== Current Omni Proposals ==

=== NOMA ===
Proposal for North Oakland Mutual Aid to become an Omni collective (fiscally sponsored project)
* https://omnicommons.org/pipermail/consensus/attachments/20210506/927398d5/attachment-0001.pdf

The purpose of the Project is to:

The sole purpose is to distribute fresh hygiene supplies and food to our houseless communities. Over the course of the month we collect donations for distribution to 550 unhoused neighbors on the 2nd Sunday of each month, and have started to host a monthly free store on 3rd Sundays (which we hope to expand). We are in a fundraising campaign on a continuous basis to make this happen. We have also been distributing water via a water tank loaded onto trucks. We fill up water bottles for folks at these encampments. We are working closely with other efforts to create potable water tanks at the sites, so there are more consistent needs for water being met on a daily basis. All of these efforts are growing as ideas come forward to create more sustainable systems for regenerative/resilient dignified communities. Many of the residents of these communities inform us of what their needs are and how we can support systems together.

Discussion:
* yar: not only support it, but feel existential about it

Consenso?
* juul, yar, jnny, jake, tim, ed, cel

=== Omni Officer & Board Elections ===
Nominations for Omni Commons president, secretary and treasurer are up.

Particularly, we are looking for new folks to fill these roles, especially BIPOC and other marginalized folks. We have Directors & Officers insurance.

* Description of roles and duties: ...

Nominations?

Meetings

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[[File:Sudo Room Meeting April 17, 2013.jpg|thumb|right|April 2013 Meeting]]
Sudoroom's official meetings are every 2nd Wednesday of the month at 6pm, or sometimes as late as 7:30. They are bureaucratic, sometimes fun, and usually more functional than rumored. We try to handle conflicts respectfully.

All other Wednesdays are [https://sudoroom.org/events/sudoroom-weekly-meeting-2016-05-25/ parties].

== Etherpad ==

We keep our agenda on an etherpad. The etherpad is projected on a big screen for everyone to see. Anyone who knows the URL can collaboratively edit it on their laptop. After the meeting, its contents are copied to our wiki - that's how we keep record. Then we clear it for the next meeting and people can add items throughout the week. Ideally someone posts a summary to the mailing list, but that doesn't always happen.

Unfortunately, in the past our etherpad has caught the attention of online troll dens who like to overwhelm it and make it unusable. For this reason, we don't post the address online. Sorry! '''These addresses''' had been used in the past, and '''are obsolete''':
* <strike>https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroom</strike>
* <strike>https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudoroommeeting</strike>

See [[Meeting template]] when starting a new meeting!

== Future meeting topics ==

Add them at this etherpad: https://pad.riseup.net/p/sudo-proposals

== Archive ==

Each old meeting gets its own page, and we link to them here.

{| class="wikitable sortable collapsible"
! colspan="3"| Past Meeting Notes
|-
! data-sort-type="isoDate" | date
! class="unsortable" | new member interviews
! class="unsortable" | comments
|-
| [[Meeting Notes 2021-05-19|2021-05-19]]
| Nik
| Reopening, access control, computers
|-
| [[Meeting Notes 2021-05-12|2021-05-12]]
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| Sudo Room decides to continue existing and stuff
|-
| [[Sudoroom_Meeting_2019_04_03|2019-04-03]]
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| discussion & consensus about GCEA proposals & paying Jenny for bookkeeping
|-
| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-04-11|2018-04-11]]
| Rich
| Steve banned, omni proposals mentioned but not discussed
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-03-14|2018-03-14]]
| Tom Levine Andrew Vaziri
| Change to membership process passed, endorsing statement from The Village to City, discussion of conflict w/ Steve
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-01-10|2018-01-10]]
| Jacques Noah
| melissa and sierk as new omni delegates;
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-12-13|2017-12-13]]
| * Adam Bredenberg Melissa Crow Pato Adam Eric Jan
| discussion of finances, omni cafe proposal discussion
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-29|2017-11-29]]
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| Another irregular meeting, with two topics of interest.
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-08|2017-11-08]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-01|2017-11-01]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-08-13|2017-08-13]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-08-09|2017-08-09]]
| Kyle Matt Rayc
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-05-10|2017-05-10]]
| Corey Travis
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[[Category:SudoRoom Organization]][[Category:Meetings]]

Meeting Notes 2021-05-12

2021-05-13T06:27:45Z

Cel: /* Info */ Add link to SSB thread

Sudo Room Meeting, 2021-05-12 7pm

= Info =
* Event page:
** https://sudoroom.org/events/sudo-room-weekly-meeting-2021-05-12/
* Announced:
** https://sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-announce/2021-May/000156.html
** https://sudoroom.org/lists/private/sudo-discuss/2021-May/015788.html
** [[Secure Scuttlebutt|SSB]]: [https://viewer.scuttlebot.io/%25%2BHjdDHzoCMg%2FRYB%2BfrhlHW7wGGFRlG%2B8RBKSfS78tpA%3D.sha256 %+HjdDHzoCMg/RYB+frhlHW7wGGFRlG+8RBKSfS78tpA=.sha256]
* Connection info:
** https://meet.jit.si/SudoRoomMeeting
** mumble://room.sudoroom.org/Meeting
** irc://chat.freenode.net/#sudoroom

= Attendees =
* cel
* yar
* kira
* jake
* tim
* jenny
* juul
* mike
* adam
* angle
* carl
* alex

= Notes =

== Do We Exist? ==
PROPOSAL: What is the situation & what NEEDS to be done for sudoroom to continue existing?

* Yar: Do we want Sudo Room to exist and stuff?
* Someone: Sure
* yar: Are we sure? Because we're not acting like it.
* Jake: I was there last night.
* Yar: me too.

* Adam and Mike wave - visible in camera of Jake

* cel (Charles) says hello

== Fundraising ==

* Tim: What is the status of the card access for Sudo Room members to the Omni Commons building?
* Jake: All the cards were disabled a while ago.
* Tim: So cards were disabled, but they want Sudo Room to pay rent? At the same time, Omni Commons has not been paying mortage or property taxes. yet they're asking us to pay rent while we are locked out the building. Does anyone have any comments on this situation?
* Yar: Omni has closed access and will probably not open up for a month or too.

* Tim: Another concern is that since Omni Commons has not paid propery taxes on the building, it's possible it could be foreclosed on by the county next year. And they could owe $250K in back taxes. Furthermore, they would have to come up with a minumim of 70$ cash in time to comnitne

* Yar: If you are interested, I can invite you to the meetings. They happen on Tuesdays.
* People are aware of it.
* will be rescheduling Finance WG meetings so they are not happening at beginning of the week, midday :P

* Tim: I know, but it doesn't seem like to continue for a year.
* Yar; but people may have more situational awareness on the subject than you. If you want to go into it, they can. Just don't know if Sudo Room is best place for it.
* Tim: they are asking Sudo Room.
** Tim: Where is it going to?
* Yar: Omni's operational costs. Not rent, but loan payment. They want to be confident that we can pay back the loan.
* It's important that we show them we have the income flowing.

* Tim: I understand, just trying to understand what we can ...
** If applying for loan, anyone can see behind on prop taxes. And lien attached.

* It doesn't look that good if going to get loan and behind 5 years.

* We are nonprofit. Applied for exemption Feb 2017.
* It's put as a disputed asset. I suggest...

* Tim: How about fundraiser for Sudo Room to pay off past balances?

* Jake: GoFundMe suggested because doesn't have threshold. For basically $20k, say Sudo Room needs this money to stay viable.
* It should be obvious why we need it; there has been shutdown... people leaving homes...
** So we just have to set that up and put it out there.

* cel reports stabilizing the mumble-jitsi bridge, apologies earlier was bad. someone says thanks.
** The problem was that the video was not disabled on the bridge, which was taking up bandwidth.

=== Bitcoin ===

* Alex: Bitcoin Wallets. Wallet for donations?
** Jenny: yes, we have it, the address on a locked page on the wiki. Marc to join later. Bitcoin donations can be sent to it. I think would be best opportunity for Sudo Room to accrue donations.

* Alex: is there an existing balance that we can tap into?

* cel: it has balance, also in altcoins

* yar: email said $3350. has not gone to sudo room's bank account or omni. https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
almost $6000...
* jake: we should do it right now. becase elon suddenly realized it it's anti-environmental. there is no SEC to shut him down for manipulating the value. so now would be the time.
* yar: i agree, let's do it.
** jenny: and he is one of the backers of...
* jake: he's use using it to make money ... not surprising
* yar: just a few weeks after he said can buy a tesla to buy it
* jake: he just used his platform to magnify the value of it... then go on tv to say bad... obviously already sold it... no regulation
* Marc joins
* jake: ... good idea to make a new bitcoin address because just one person has access to it.
** ... carl knew someone who knew people who might want to donate. could suggest it to noisebridge...
* jake: definitely. thought there was an email
* carl: i don't know where they're from. maybe hacker dojo. i'll send an email. no idea how much. could be $100
* cel: ... other forked coins
** https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
*** 2.02161675 BCH / 2,415.21 USD
** https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-sv/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
*** 2.02161675 BSV / 621.99 USD
* yar: marc, can you confirm access and can sell?
* marc: have access, but cannot sell. can transfer.
* jake: i'm willing.
* jake to send address to marc.

* yar: great, sounds like we'll have a lot more money. huge. thank you.

* 7:44 jake's internet scheduled downtime
* yar: when come back, will have memory?
* jake: resets...

* cel: HNS (handshake coins)?
* jake: can. need to check notes. have seed phrase...
** jenny: ...
*** marc: sudo mesh's..
* jake: i'm willing to donate mine, but don't know how. i have scripts and passphrase

* jenny: related idea: sudo mesh could pay some of sudo room's invoices. sudo * mesh has the money, and not using it right now.
* ?: we wouldn't say no
** jake: i consent
*** yar?: i also consent
* jake?: not a great time to sell
** jenny: how to actually sell?
* marc: simple if you have the right ideas
* jenny: ... when have an actually sudo mesh
* cel: sounds like HNS to think about after bitcoin
* yar: sell Bitcoin will go a long way. at least for next several months. but we * should make a plan to pay back and stay current. we're still in the ... red.

=== SudoRoom Rent Shortfall, Situation with Omni, Repair Work ===

* carl: wanted to ask about numbers. regarding sudo debt and omni... how is the omni doing?

* yar: i can answer. let's start with sudo room. right now owes $12000. that is going to go up to $14000 in a couple weeks when our rent ("charitble contribution") is next due. currently have $2800 in bank account ready to be transfered. and the omni delegates are considering possibly.... they have asked us to get current by august. if we can't, it's possibly we might lose our omni membership. not just us but true of all groups that are behind. considering that we're not even pulling enough money to stay current right now, my idea is that we should make a gofundme for $20k to run through july, that would mean good until july. simultaneously, we should make a plan to have our income line up with our expenses ... a august. two plans: to catch up, and to stay caught up. makes sense?

* marc: sounds good.

* carl: then in the wider omni collective, i'm assuming there are other groups behind... how is the omni doing in general?
* yar: no one is as behind as sudo room
* jenny: but sudo room pays 10x them
* yar: ... even in terms of months... but omni is going to be okay. if the loan application is rejected, it will be a crisis. but we're hoping it will not be rejected. we worked hard on it and are in a good position(?)
* jenny: no where near ... 2016 crisis... we're being scrutinized for these applications. something like $90k in the bank, kind of a pittance of savings for a $2M building with much needed improvements in next 2-3 years, like the roof.
* yar: we're asking for a $1.1M loan. a little extra for capital improvements.

* jake: ... circuit breakers?

* alex: monthly shortfall?
* jenny: $700 ... based on last april's profit and loss... thanks to everyone who contributed, made improvements...
* jake: i had a little burst of activity, tried to log into stripe, to see if people i could think of who i thought were donating, to decide whether to send them an email... got stuck because of 2FA. got through that. might ...
* jenny: ... year, requires 2f-auth. but backup code in our passpack. can choose to auth another way.
* jake: back. next disappear at 7:56, 8:02, 8:08, 8:14. ... monkey brains ... roof antenna

* jake: ... money situation ... to replace the federal pacific breakers. found one insurance company that will insure but charge alot.
* yar: not a company, but a gov agency set up as insurer of last resort.
* jake: good to know, thank you. i assume there is some value to shop around for an insurance policy. and value in replacing the breakers. several of us volunteers have gone in and stuck our hands in them, half way through ridding the omni of this dangerous equipment. i was eventually convinced by ... deep space nine station ... voice of reason...
* yar: i identify with cisco(?) better
* jake: what is your personal star trek pronoun ...jenny a picard
* jenny: make it so
* jake: so i was willing to accept a compromise: i'll allow the professionals to allow... 2 breaker boxes in room in corner where power comes in building. but i want to do all the others. we've got them identified and we're gonna do it.
* jenny: then we can petition omni to let off some rent
* jake: exactly. and they could do it already since we've already done several breaker boxes. so i'd like to formally introduce this idea to this clear quorum of sudoers... 2 ciscos, some bridge, carl. i want us to consent to a numerical figure to the omni as a bill: we did this work and its done. and we can do these others. so omni at their meeting can say looks good, let's give them twice as much.
* yar: i like this idea... and i'm not opposed to it. i think first of all it would be a little tone-deaf for us to call the work finished - since all the work we've done so far still require some follow-up work to make nice like a professional would do. so i'd like to wait until we can make it nice. before we ask for money for that, we should probably remove the panel entirely and add a junction box... it would be so much better. what we focused on so far is making them safer, and they are. but they're not as nice; think we should wait until we can raise the standard. i think we should ask for this money but also get caught up in parallel and use that as savings
* jake: i didn't hear everything but object...
** jenny: to be contrarian?
*** jake: didn't hear...
**** yar re-summarizes.
***** jake: what? no.
* yar: i think if we're going to be paid we should do it to professional standards.
** jake: i hear that but disagree a professional would not consider ... this acceptable
*** ... can ask a professional. but specifically would not ask K... Walt... [Kierans?]
*** ... who wrote an email recently and said "well i doubt your volunteers have precision torque calibrated tools" gross fear-mongering. i would like to have a neutral (he is not as he has expressed strong) party, like david keanon...
* jenny: keenan has looked at a million panels
* jake: ... or someone he designates, to evaluate it, and i'll go with what they say.
* alex: we should get it to the bar so we can ask for more money... as if it were "gold-plated"
* jake: we can gold-plate stuff, but someone needs to donate the gold... someone needs to get the gold
** alex: if money... gold... then it's worth doing?
*** ...agree
* jake: agree, get neutral party like DK or designee to look at BAA and see if the job is done. then don't need to do more work on that.
* yar: don't think it's necessary to go to that length. can ask for money and they'll give it to us - just need to ask in a way that sounds reasonable. i think we can get to that point with all the panels. it's probably going to be me actually arguing on that on the "floor", so want to make sure things are defensible for the sake of my reputation.
* jake: so let's get david keanon or his designee to ...

* yar: the original estimates from kent kates (not the person jake's upset about) estimated $2k to replace AC, which Jake and Alex apparently did yesterday - well, they deactivated it - and $2500 to replace panel BAA, which they did yesterday; $3000 to replace AA, which they didi a couple weeks ago, and another $5000 to replace AD and AE, which are coming up - next on the list.
* jake: very nice
* alex: is this being documented?
* jenny: awesome, thank you.
* alex: just totalled it up.. about $7.
* jake: let's do it.
* yar: $7500
* jake: let's do it
* jenny: also omnicommmons.org/electrical i believe has images of the panels.
* jake: i updated it last night
* jenny: amazing.
* jake: anyone good at wiki wants to fix a bug?
* yar: i'm getting to it...
* jenny: i can handle it.

talking about star treck... DS9...

* yar: big question: are we going to set up this gofundme?
* ?: is there a better platform that accepts cryptocurrency?
* ?: don't know
* yar: i think we should have something that takes both crypto and fiat dollars, but is just as easy to use as gofundme
* jenny: it could be done in tandem, adding the wallet address to the campaign. gofundme has the amplication effect.
* we could make a video... make ourselves seem desparate... but not too desparate.
* yar?: socially acceptable to desparate right now
* alex: thread-bare hackers with ancient laptops

* alex: we've discussed a bunch of one-time big contributions to get us out of the hole. main issue seems to be month-to-month.
* ?: yes.
* jenny: cel did you do something with sudo-humans?
* cel: not really. but also want to mention opencollective for consideration.
* jenny: i was going to mention that too. if sudo-humans is dead, let's go with that.
* marc: i am evaluating systems - access control and payment things that other hackerspaces have been maintaining. made a list. there is one from a place in australia that looks pretty good.
* alex: how significant is the software [vs. other membership concerns]... if had perfect software, would be okay?
* jenny?: unclear... hard to say until we look at the data from stripe. how many members have unsubcribed, or their debit card got unhinged...
* jake: it doesn't super matter whether one or the other. if people aren't paying, it's a good time to contact people, and ask how would you feel about volunteering... to catch up. this is basically church. you don't tithe to your hackerspace,you go to hell, have to run windows...
* yar: ...fix other peoples windows.
* marc: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/List_of_existing_hackerspace_access_control_software
* alex: ...
* marc: it's definitely a priority. can have the other discussion as well.
* yar: priority is the gofundme. then we'll have a couple months to talk about how to get back arrears. to summarize my thoughts about attracting people, it is to be cleaner. in particular have a clean floor one inch thick expoxy to the walls so no mouse holes everywhere.
* tim?: also good to have more remote participation.
* jenny: yeah, bring the inter-hackerspace tv back into action.
* alex: sounds like we have to do the software.
* jenny: marc will make suggestions. launching gofundme... part of that will be ... perks for certain tiers of donations. could be access to ... one-on-one tutorial/demo/teaching session on e.g. how to use laser cutter (which would entail fixing laser cutter).
* alex: what about a welding robot as a perk?
* jenny: ?
* yar: i see what you did there.
* ... how about mitch altman's tv as a perk.
* alex: the dream things are not a bad idea as a perk.
* ...: and the tv-be-gone
* marc: highest donation gets exempt from lottery of who gets to take away the robot arm
* yar: it would take up less space if we hung it from the rafters upside down
* jenny: don't think that particular roof section is load-bearing. it's dicy
* marc: roof would take up less space if we did that.
* yar: what if the arm took a structural role in supporting the roof. a flying buttress...
* jake: how dare you, what are you talking about, it has feelings.
* jenny: doesn't it have googly eyes?
* jake: it needs to feel you with its arm to feel its feelings, that's how it feels you
* yar: hasn't been turned on in past 5 years.
* jake: i'm just going to pretend i didn't hear anything disparaging the robot arm... one of the best things in the hackerspace. would much rather hear things people want to do with it... we have python libraries... serial port... have build accessories... have a giant laser for it, router, plasma cutter...
* marc: but it hasn't been working
* yar: valid to question if it hasn't been in use ... put it somewhere else... maybe someone has a room.
* jake: okay, i'll take it... it works. but if people don't think it's a cool thing
* jenny: remember things have been shut down for a year. just because has been stagnant for a long time, doesn't mean it can't be revived.
* jake: ...
* yar: it's cool, but so many other foundational issues we're facing
* jenny: foundational issue taking up time and energy... towards the goal of floor.
* yar: want to do floor.
* jake: robot arm will help you do floor. it's an arm.
* yar: is it going to wear shoes while it.... brushes the epoxy
* jenny: ...
* yar: you're being ridiculuous. okay if jokes. but seriously... not helping epoxy the floor
* jenny: removing the robot arm not helping us either.
* yar: fine with putting 2x4s around it and epoxy around it. fine, but will need to orient it to not get in the way of the concrete grinding machines that we're going to use.
* jake: so you're saying you object to the robot arm's orientation?
* alex?: why wasn't the robot arm invited to the meeting?
* jenny: #rightsforrobots
* marc: because it's been breaking the rules not wearing a room and being in sudo room all this time.
* ...

more star trek talk. season 1... 2... rick berman...

* yar: who's going to set up this fundraiser?
* jenny: should probably start with a collaborative doc to get some language and images together... i can start that. if anyone's interested in making some video clips and collaborated... liberated lens... i can share with ... when people are in the space.
* marc: i'm also up to do some filming. have we agreed on rules for being sudo room? are we going to do the same thing CCL's doing?
* jenny: yes, there is a current thread for omni reopening policy on omni-discuss list. this is something we'll need to have a concrete proposal on. not sure if patrick is going to do it. but by and large following CCL's lead is a good plan. copy-paste them.
* marc: should do same thing as CCL - thing to read temperature at door, don't need to buy another one. check in sheet, so if someone tests COVID-19 positive, can see who was in the space at the same time as them. then people keep their distance.
* yar: hard to control access, because sudo room gets passed through, vs. CCL is off to the side.
* jenny: agenda item: doors and access system. we are supposedly implementing an actual door access system at the doorway to sudo/CCL. the door is there. panic bar(?) is installed. marc knows some things.
* alex: marc, jake, david keanon and i had exchanges.... hardware/software... sudo doors: hardware currently on the door to CCL. what to do about the door to the basement?
* marc: it's not a fire door is it?
* jenny; it's not a primary egress point but it is an egress point. there is a panic bar from the basement to sudo
** ?: there is? no
* jenny: well, there is already ... at other doors. don't think it's a necessary egress point.
* alex: access control to sudo/ccl door and leaving that one open...
* marc: no, not leaving open unless in the space
* jenny: lock is on the basement side... we can switch it out. not a great door. good for sneakily going from basement to sudo...
* yar: it's a bad door. for inspections, david keanon specifically instructed me to keep it closed and act like it's not there, like it's just a wall.
* alex: so we're planning to seal that door off?
* yar: i think it can be useful.
* jenny: i use it all the time
* yar: ... i was ... in the basement ... kept going to sudo room to get parts. but if not ones in sudo room, it should be locked.
* alex: from sudo room's side
* yar: yes.
* yar: basement is meant to be common space
** jenny: lock may need to be switched to the sudo room side. i'm pretty sure it is on the basement side.

* jake: ... did we finish what to do about asking omni to give credit for work already done? does anything need to be done to make that happen?
* yar: i think we should come to a solid proposal to lift it. at next week's delegate's meeting, i'll float the idea, and see what the response is
** alex: good idea
* jake: before, i'll ask keanon to look through at the 3-4 things we've done, and be willing to look at this and say it's true they fixed the 3 or 4 boxes or whatever.
* yar: like whatever ... would have done.
* jake: to say sudo room would like to be compensated for the work ... as follows.
* yar: it think david keanon is a better person to do it, vs. a licensed electrician...
* jenny; technically i think david is still a sudo room member, so some bias there. but he joined every collective... in 2014.

jenny: should we bring up the NOMA N? Mutual Aid proposal?
* yar: so i can do something other than abstain at omni meetings
* yar: if anyone wants to be delegate, i'm ready to be replaced... for years
* jenny: we have a delegates mailing list. so whenever sudo room consenses on a delegate, we can coordinate on who reps sudo room at any given delegates meeting. those are twice a month. i can't... yar's sudo room delegate. i'm sudo room board member? if anyone wants to be board members... but delegate's more important.
* yar: ... which i've been bad about... doing too many things.
* jake: thank you for doing those things.
** thank you!
* marc: i think i'm on the allowed list for sudo/ccl(?)
* jenny: i could do mesh if you want to do sudo for a bit. or jake. or alex or ?
* ?: doesn't need to just be one person. ccl has two, and they trade off. just need to coordinate between each other.
* jenny: or if we start having these sudo room meetings on the regular, we can decide a day before the omni meetings who should rep sudo room in the delegates.

* jake: what do i do with the $5K of bitcoin?
* bitcoins are being transferred.
* marc: i'm not best person, because places to buy/sell like to have IDs, which i don't have, as a non-citizen.

yar: i don't understand. we're transferring it to a wallet you set up jake?
* jake: yes. it's a wallet that a company controls.
*? what company?
* jake: coinbase.
* jake: when we decide to put funds into babylon.
** eventually our bank will take it...

cel mentions bitcoin forks and multisig.
* concerns about single person having access
** electrum wallet and its forks support multisig
*** BTC: https://electrum.org/
*** BCH: https://electroncash.org/
*** BSV: https://electrumsv.io/

* jenny thanks cel for taking notes & setting up mtg & knowing things about cryptocurrencies :D

* cel: probably should have separate wallets for the different bitcoin forks.

** jenny: i hereby nominate cel to role of security officer...
*** cel appreciates the suggestion...

== Events, Meetings, Network Bandwidth Issues ==

* juul: should we talk about events?
** Ongoing doc for reopening: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lINDe6awkBxiTrXc280A23OKCEp46iKTf2PegIX9Mgw/edit

* cel: should change meeting time?
** juul: think should, because overlapping with CCL. we could change the time, or the day.
** jenny: don't say tuesday, because that's sudo mesh
** marc: and hack night
* jenny: and thursday is omni... but if we did it earlier... omni meetings start at 7 (PST). maybe tuesdays are fine. traditionally we have sudo mesh at 8pm.
* marc: we could do tuesdays if people are up for it. or later on wednesdays. or earlier.
* yar: from experience at the commons wg, it was difficult to manage the bridge. especially if you're one of the people there physically. especially as omni's internet is slow.
* jenny: situation with that... can't get the fiber yet because they're not offering business connections.
* marc: we can't because it's more expensive...
* jake: drill down the floor to where they have the BART dark fiber
* marc: why slow? is it a problem with our ISP, or us?
* yar: just because the pipe we're paying for is not thick enough. i think throughput is the problem. we're paying for copper..
* marc: no, it's a VDSL... close to the cnter.... 30Mbits down, 20Mbits up.
* jenny: i think we recorded it as 20MBps up
** marc: we can just call them.
*** yar: i've always had issues trying to do any real-time application at omni

* jenny: maybe we could have an in-person meeting to investigate.
* yar: i think a meetup would be useful. one of the private networks went down last summer.. there are machines still inaccessible.
* jenny: i didn't see that.
* yar: on sysadmins list. think pipe is too little.
* jake: ... can't.
* ?: have meeting...
* marc: sunday?
* alex: should be a time convenient for whoever knows the infrastructure. probably marc and yar
* jenny: and daniel.
* yar: i don't want to be there on sundays, but i'm happy to call in. most of the information i can just give over the phone.
* alex: sunday should be okay for me. if you want to do that
* alex: what would be helpful would be a summary of things broken.
* yar: i can't send email to sudo-discuss. do we want sudo-sys? or should it just be put on sudo-discuss.
* jenny: ... either we could make a push to add more folks to the sysadmins list. or we could redirect the emails that come into it to sudo room or something. there are randos... i think it's still valuable to have a somewhat secure list... maybe something to add to sudo room out-of-hibernation tasks to try to pull more folks onto the list. but maybe 70% of people on that list are no longer involved.
* marc: IIRC it's about $300/month to get commercial fiber. i can check if the prices changed. i've been doing research on access points to replace the current ones. first ... working great. also ordered some the haven't arrived yet.
* alex: when i was at omni last, daniel mentioned someone had rack mount switches willing to donate. any use?
* marc: only use is if someone sells them to donate.
* jake: are they PoE powered, or generated PoE?
* alex: i think they generate PoE
* yar: but they consume power, put out heat...
* marc: we do need PoE routers... that's how we ... only have one left.
* alex: does someone want to contact daniel? i don't think anyone's going to sell them on ebay
* jake: craigslist! i'll do it
* alex: really? you should do it. totally.
* jenny: can i recruit you to help marc and i clear out this... good stuff

* jenny: only 8 people on the sysadmins list. 4 out of 8 are no longer involved with omni/sudo in any way whatsover. wow, a very useless sysadmins list. the only useful people on here are yar, marc, myself, and david keenan.
** To join: https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/sysadmins/
* cel: thought was talking about sudo-sys list
* jenny: omni sysdmins list. should remove ... folks not involved. ... i'll send an email out.

* ... meeting time?
* cel: weekly or monthly
* let's do it weekly. 6pm. wednesday 6pm? previous reason was it takes time to get from work...
* jake: people don't want to work.

* cel asks about the mumble bridging attempt. should it be attempted again or not worth it?

* jenny: what are advantages to have a mumble bridge? low bandwidth situations... other reasons. a lot of people internationally use it. i do in my work.
* alex: web-based vs need for separate app. only reason to prefer it over mumble.

* yar: if traffic from mumble goes through sudo room, it will be more than our bandwidth. but if peer-to-peer...
* marc: mumble is extremely low bandwidth
* jake: i think we should give mumble more of a chance. appreciate cel's endorsement of it. some hesitation to use it because it's not a browser thing - but it could be worth it if it performs better. but don't think sudo room is best place for a server for it.
* jenny: i think it is the right place for a server for it. one of primary reasons to use something like mumble is if communication blocked by state gov, etc. having IP addresses associated with servers isn't a benefit... not really a use case for sudo room right now, but would be good to model. providing a multiplicity of things to connect to ... that don't rely on ip blocks by state goverments
* yar: going, bye
* cel: bandwidth limit?
* marc: think it's fine. we're going to upgrade to it the connection. i prefer mumble.

* carl's background... the cubatron.

* marc: it's a video bandwidth embiggenator.

* carl talks about how hayward techies are still having meetings.
* jenny suggests writing an upbraiding email to sudo-discuss

Meeting Notes 2021-05-12

2021-05-13T05:51:48Z

Cel: /* Info */ Link to event page

Sudo Room Meeting, 2021-05-12 7pm

= Info =
* Event page:
** https://sudoroom.org/events/sudo-room-weekly-meeting-2021-05-12/
* Announced:
** https://sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-announce/2021-May/000156.html
** https://sudoroom.org/lists/private/sudo-discuss/2021-May/015788.html
* Connection info:
** https://meet.jit.si/SudoRoomMeeting
** mumble://room.sudoroom.org/Meeting
** irc://chat.freenode.net/#sudoroom

= Attendees =
* cel
* yar
* kira
* jake
* tim
* jenny
* juul
* mike
* adam
* angle
* carl
* alex

= Notes =

== Do We Exist? ==
PROPOSAL: What is the situation & what NEEDS to be done for sudoroom to continue existing?

* Yar: Do we want Sudo Room to exist and stuff?
* Someone: Sure
* yar: Are we sure? Because we're not acting like it.
* Jake: I was there last night.
* Yar: me too.

* Adam and Mike wave - visible in camera of Jake

* cel (Charles) says hello

== Fundraising ==

* Tim: What is the status of the card access for Sudo Room members to the Omni Commons building?
* Jake: All the cards were disabled a while ago.
* Tim: So cards were disabled, but they want Sudo Room to pay rent? At the same time, Omni Commons has not been paying mortage or property taxes. yet they're asking us to pay rent while we are locked out the building. Does anyone have any comments on this situation?
* Yar: Omni has closed access and will probably not open up for a month or too.

* Tim: Another concern is that since Omni Commons has not paid propery taxes on the building, it's possible it could be foreclosed on by the county next year. And they could owe $250K in back taxes. Furthermore, they would have to come up with a minumim of 70$ cash in time to comnitne

* Yar: If you are interested, I can invite you to the meetings. They happen on Tuesdays.
* People are aware of it.
* will be rescheduling Finance WG meetings so they are not happening at beginning of the week, midday :P

* Tim: I know, but it doesn't seem like to continue for a year.
* Yar; but people may have more situational awareness on the subject than you. If you want to go into it, they can. Just don't know if Sudo Room is best place for it.
* Tim: they are asking Sudo Room.
** Tim: Where is it going to?
* Yar: Omni's operational costs. Not rent, but loan payment. They want to be confident that we can pay back the loan.
* It's important that we show them we have the income flowing.

* Tim: I understand, just trying to understand what we can ...
** If applying for loan, anyone can see behind on prop taxes. And lien attached.

* It doesn't look that good if going to get loan and behind 5 years.

* We are nonprofit. Applied for exemption Feb 2017.
* It's put as a disputed asset. I suggest...

* Tim: How about fundraiser for Sudo Room to pay off past balances?

* Jake: GoFundMe suggested because doesn't have threshold. For basically $20k, say Sudo Room needs this money to stay viable.
* It should be obvious why we need it; there has been shutdown... people leaving homes...
** So we just have to set that up and put it out there.

* cel reports stabilizing the mumble-jitsi bridge, apologies earlier was bad. someone says thanks.
** The problem was that the video was not disabled on the bridge, which was taking up bandwidth.

=== Bitcoin ===

* Alex: Bitcoin Wallets. Wallet for donations?
** Jenny: yes, we have it, the address on a locked page on the wiki. Marc to join later. Bitcoin donations can be sent to it. I think would be best opportunity for Sudo Room to accrue donations.

* Alex: is there an existing balance that we can tap into?

* cel: it has balance, also in altcoins

* yar: email said $3350. has not gone to sudo room's bank account or omni. https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
almost $6000...
* jake: we should do it right now. becase elon suddenly realized it it's anti-environmental. there is no SEC to shut him down for manipulating the value. so now would be the time.
* yar: i agree, let's do it.
** jenny: and he is one of the backers of...
* jake: he's use using it to make money ... not surprising
* yar: just a few weeks after he said can buy a tesla to buy it
* jake: he just used his platform to magnify the value of it... then go on tv to say bad... obviously already sold it... no regulation
* Marc joins
* jake: ... good idea to make a new bitcoin address because just one person has access to it.
** ... carl knew someone who knew people who might want to donate. could suggest it to noisebridge...
* jake: definitely. thought there was an email
* carl: i don't know where they're from. maybe hacker dojo. i'll send an email. no idea how much. could be $100
* cel: ... other forked coins
** https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
*** 2.02161675 BCH / 2,415.21 USD
** https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-sv/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
*** 2.02161675 BSV / 621.99 USD
* yar: marc, can you confirm access and can sell?
* marc: have access, but cannot sell. can transfer.
* jake: i'm willing.
* jake to send address to marc.

* yar: great, sounds like we'll have a lot more money. huge. thank you.

* 7:44 jake's internet scheduled downtime
* yar: when come back, will have memory?
* jake: resets...

* cel: HNS (handshake coins)?
* jake: can. need to check notes. have seed phrase...
** jenny: ...
*** marc: sudo mesh's..
* jake: i'm willing to donate mine, but don't know how. i have scripts and passphrase

* jenny: related idea: sudo mesh could pay some of sudo room's invoices. sudo * mesh has the money, and not using it right now.
* ?: we wouldn't say no
** jake: i consent
*** yar?: i also consent
* jake?: not a great time to sell
** jenny: how to actually sell?
* marc: simple if you have the right ideas
* jenny: ... when have an actually sudo mesh
* cel: sounds like HNS to think about after bitcoin
* yar: sell Bitcoin will go a long way. at least for next several months. but we * should make a plan to pay back and stay current. we're still in the ... red.

=== SudoRoom Rent Shortfall, Situation with Omni, Repair Work ===

* carl: wanted to ask about numbers. regarding sudo debt and omni... how is the omni doing?

* yar: i can answer. let's start with sudo room. right now owes $12000. that is going to go up to $14000 in a couple weeks when our rent ("charitble contribution") is next due. currently have $2800 in bank account ready to be transfered. and the omni delegates are considering possibly.... they have asked us to get current by august. if we can't, it's possibly we might lose our omni membership. not just us but true of all groups that are behind. considering that we're not even pulling enough money to stay current right now, my idea is that we should make a gofundme for $20k to run through july, that would mean good until july. simultaneously, we should make a plan to have our income line up with our expenses ... a august. two plans: to catch up, and to stay caught up. makes sense?

* marc: sounds good.

* carl: then in the wider omni collective, i'm assuming there are other groups behind... how is the omni doing in general?
* yar: no one is as behind as sudo room
* jenny: but sudo room pays 10x them
* yar: ... even in terms of months... but omni is going to be okay. if the loan application is rejected, it will be a crisis. but we're hoping it will not be rejected. we worked hard on it and are in a good position(?)
* jenny: no where near ... 2016 crisis... we're being scrutinized for these applications. something like $90k in the bank, kind of a pittance of savings for a $2M building with much needed improvements in next 2-3 years, like the roof.
* yar: we're asking for a $1.1M loan. a little extra for capital improvements.

* jake: ... circuit breakers?

* alex: monthly shortfall?
* jenny: $700 ... based on last april's profit and loss... thanks to everyone who contributed, made improvements...
* jake: i had a little burst of activity, tried to log into stripe, to see if people i could think of who i thought were donating, to decide whether to send them an email... got stuck because of 2FA. got through that. might ...
* jenny: ... year, requires 2f-auth. but backup code in our passpack. can choose to auth another way.
* jake: back. next disappear at 7:56, 8:02, 8:08, 8:14. ... monkey brains ... roof antenna

* jake: ... money situation ... to replace the federal pacific breakers. found one insurance company that will insure but charge alot.
* yar: not a company, but a gov agency set up as insurer of last resort.
* jake: good to know, thank you. i assume there is some value to shop around for an insurance policy. and value in replacing the breakers. several of us volunteers have gone in and stuck our hands in them, half way through ridding the omni of this dangerous equipment. i was eventually convinced by ... deep space nine station ... voice of reason...
* yar: i identify with cisco(?) better
* jake: what is your personal star trek pronoun ...jenny a picard
* jenny: make it so
* jake: so i was willing to accept a compromise: i'll allow the professionals to allow... 2 breaker boxes in room in corner where power comes in building. but i want to do all the others. we've got them identified and we're gonna do it.
* jenny: then we can petition omni to let off some rent
* jake: exactly. and they could do it already since we've already done several breaker boxes. so i'd like to formally introduce this idea to this clear quorum of sudoers... 2 ciscos, some bridge, carl. i want us to consent to a numerical figure to the omni as a bill: we did this work and its done. and we can do these others. so omni at their meeting can say looks good, let's give them twice as much.
* yar: i like this idea... and i'm not opposed to it. i think first of all it would be a little tone-deaf for us to call the work finished - since all the work we've done so far still require some follow-up work to make nice like a professional would do. so i'd like to wait until we can make it nice. before we ask for money for that, we should probably remove the panel entirely and add a junction box... it would be so much better. what we focused on so far is making them safer, and they are. but they're not as nice; think we should wait until we can raise the standard. i think we should ask for this money but also get caught up in parallel and use that as savings
* jake: i didn't hear everything but object...
** jenny: to be contrarian?
*** jake: didn't hear...
**** yar re-summarizes.
***** jake: what? no.
* yar: i think if we're going to be paid we should do it to professional standards.
** jake: i hear that but disagree a professional would not consider ... this acceptable
*** ... can ask a professional. but specifically would not ask K... Walt... [Kierans?]
*** ... who wrote an email recently and said "well i doubt your volunteers have precision torque calibrated tools" gross fear-mongering. i would like to have a neutral (he is not as he has expressed strong) party, like david keanon...
* jenny: keenan has looked at a million panels
* jake: ... or someone he designates, to evaluate it, and i'll go with what they say.
* alex: we should get it to the bar so we can ask for more money... as if it were "gold-plated"
* jake: we can gold-plate stuff, but someone needs to donate the gold... someone needs to get the gold
** alex: if money... gold... then it's worth doing?
*** ...agree
* jake: agree, get neutral party like DK or designee to look at BAA and see if the job is done. then don't need to do more work on that.
* yar: don't think it's necessary to go to that length. can ask for money and they'll give it to us - just need to ask in a way that sounds reasonable. i think we can get to that point with all the panels. it's probably going to be me actually arguing on that on the "floor", so want to make sure things are defensible for the sake of my reputation.
* jake: so let's get david keanon or his designee to ...

* yar: the original estimates from kent kates (not the person jake's upset about) estimated $2k to replace AC, which Jake and Alex apparently did yesterday - well, they deactivated it - and $2500 to replace panel BAA, which they did yesterday; $3000 to replace AA, which they didi a couple weeks ago, and another $5000 to replace AD and AE, which are coming up - next on the list.
* jake: very nice
* alex: is this being documented?
* jenny: awesome, thank you.
* alex: just totalled it up.. about $7.
* jake: let's do it.
* yar: $7500
* jake: let's do it
* jenny: also omnicommmons.org/electrical i believe has images of the panels.
* jake: i updated it last night
* jenny: amazing.
* jake: anyone good at wiki wants to fix a bug?
* yar: i'm getting to it...
* jenny: i can handle it.

talking about star treck... DS9...

* yar: big question: are we going to set up this gofundme?
* ?: is there a better platform that accepts cryptocurrency?
* ?: don't know
* yar: i think we should have something that takes both crypto and fiat dollars, but is just as easy to use as gofundme
* jenny: it could be done in tandem, adding the wallet address to the campaign. gofundme has the amplication effect.
* we could make a video... make ourselves seem desparate... but not too desparate.
* yar?: socially acceptable to desparate right now
* alex: thread-bare hackers with ancient laptops

* alex: we've discussed a bunch of one-time big contributions to get us out of the hole. main issue seems to be month-to-month.
* ?: yes.
* jenny: cel did you do something with sudo-humans?
* cel: not really. but also want to mention opencollective for consideration.
* jenny: i was going to mention that too. if sudo-humans is dead, let's go with that.
* marc: i am evaluating systems - access control and payment things that other hackerspaces have been maintaining. made a list. there is one from a place in australia that looks pretty good.
* alex: how significant is the software [vs. other membership concerns]... if had perfect software, would be okay?
* jenny?: unclear... hard to say until we look at the data from stripe. how many members have unsubcribed, or their debit card got unhinged...
* jake: it doesn't super matter whether one or the other. if people aren't paying, it's a good time to contact people, and ask how would you feel about volunteering... to catch up. this is basically church. you don't tithe to your hackerspace,you go to hell, have to run windows...
* yar: ...fix other peoples windows.
* marc: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/List_of_existing_hackerspace_access_control_software
* alex: ...
* marc: it's definitely a priority. can have the other discussion as well.
* yar: priority is the gofundme. then we'll have a couple months to talk about how to get back arrears. to summarize my thoughts about attracting people, it is to be cleaner. in particular have a clean floor one inch thick expoxy to the walls so no mouse holes everywhere.
* tim?: also good to have more remote participation.
* jenny: yeah, bring the inter-hackerspace tv back into action.
* alex: sounds like we have to do the software.
* jenny: marc will make suggestions. launching gofundme... part of that will be ... perks for certain tiers of donations. could be access to ... one-on-one tutorial/demo/teaching session on e.g. how to use laser cutter (which would entail fixing laser cutter).
* alex: what about a welding robot as a perk?
* jenny: ?
* yar: i see what you did there.
* ... how about mitch altman's tv as a perk.
* alex: the dream things are not a bad idea as a perk.
* ...: and the tv-be-gone
* marc: highest donation gets exempt from lottery of who gets to take away the robot arm
* yar: it would take up less space if we hung it from the rafters upside down
* jenny: don't think that particular roof section is load-bearing. it's dicy
* marc: roof would take up less space if we did that.
* yar: what if the arm took a structural role in supporting the roof. a flying buttress...
* jake: how dare you, what are you talking about, it has feelings.
* jenny: doesn't it have googly eyes?
* jake: it needs to feel you with its arm to feel its feelings, that's how it feels you
* yar: hasn't been turned on in past 5 years.
* jake: i'm just going to pretend i didn't hear anything disparaging the robot arm... one of the best things in the hackerspace. would much rather hear things people want to do with it... we have python libraries... serial port... have build accessories... have a giant laser for it, router, plasma cutter...
* marc: but it hasn't been working
* yar: valid to question if it hasn't been in use ... put it somewhere else... maybe someone has a room.
* jake: okay, i'll take it... it works. but if people don't think it's a cool thing
* jenny: remember things have been shut down for a year. just because has been stagnant for a long time, doesn't mean it can't be revived.
* jake: ...
* yar: it's cool, but so many other foundational issues we're facing
* jenny: foundational issue taking up time and energy... towards the goal of floor.
* yar: want to do floor.
* jake: robot arm will help you do floor. it's an arm.
* yar: is it going to wear shoes while it.... brushes the epoxy
* jenny: ...
* yar: you're being ridiculuous. okay if jokes. but seriously... not helping epoxy the floor
* jenny: removing the robot arm not helping us either.
* yar: fine with putting 2x4s around it and epoxy around it. fine, but will need to orient it to not get in the way of the concrete grinding machines that we're going to use.
* jake: so you're saying you object to the robot arm's orientation?
* alex?: why wasn't the robot arm invited to the meeting?
* jenny: #rightsforrobots
* marc: because it's been breaking the rules not wearing a room and being in sudo room all this time.
* ...

more star trek talk. season 1... 2... rick berman...

* yar: who's going to set up this fundraiser?
* jenny: should probably start with a collaborative doc to get some language and images together... i can start that. if anyone's interested in making some video clips and collaborated... liberated lens... i can share with ... when people are in the space.
* marc: i'm also up to do some filming. have we agreed on rules for being sudo room? are we going to do the same thing CCL's doing?
* jenny: yes, there is a current thread for omni reopening policy on omni-discuss list. this is something we'll need to have a concrete proposal on. not sure if patrick is going to do it. but by and large following CCL's lead is a good plan. copy-paste them.
* marc: should do same thing as CCL - thing to read temperature at door, don't need to buy another one. check in sheet, so if someone tests COVID-19 positive, can see who was in the space at the same time as them. then people keep their distance.
* yar: hard to control access, because sudo room gets passed through, vs. CCL is off to the side.
* jenny: agenda item: doors and access system. we are supposedly implementing an actual door access system at the doorway to sudo/CCL. the door is there. panic bar(?) is installed. marc knows some things.
* alex: marc, jake, david keanon and i had exchanges.... hardware/software... sudo doors: hardware currently on the door to CCL. what to do about the door to the basement?
* marc: it's not a fire door is it?
* jenny; it's not a primary egress point but it is an egress point. there is a panic bar from the basement to sudo
** ?: there is? no
* jenny: well, there is already ... at other doors. don't think it's a necessary egress point.
* alex: access control to sudo/ccl door and leaving that one open...
* marc: no, not leaving open unless in the space
* jenny: lock is on the basement side... we can switch it out. not a great door. good for sneakily going from basement to sudo...
* yar: it's a bad door. for inspections, david keanon specifically instructed me to keep it closed and act like it's not there, like it's just a wall.
* alex: so we're planning to seal that door off?
* yar: i think it can be useful.
* jenny: i use it all the time
* yar: ... i was ... in the basement ... kept going to sudo room to get parts. but if not ones in sudo room, it should be locked.
* alex: from sudo room's side
* yar: yes.
* yar: basement is meant to be common space
** jenny: lock may need to be switched to the sudo room side. i'm pretty sure it is on the basement side.

* jake: ... did we finish what to do about asking omni to give credit for work already done? does anything need to be done to make that happen?
* yar: i think we should come to a solid proposal to lift it. at next week's delegate's meeting, i'll float the idea, and see what the response is
** alex: good idea
* jake: before, i'll ask keanon to look through at the 3-4 things we've done, and be willing to look at this and say it's true they fixed the 3 or 4 boxes or whatever.
* yar: like whatever ... would have done.
* jake: to say sudo room would like to be compensated for the work ... as follows.
* yar: it think david keanon is a better person to do it, vs. a licensed electrician...
* jenny; technically i think david is still a sudo room member, so some bias there. but he joined every collective... in 2014.

jenny: should we bring up the NOMA N? Mutual Aid proposal?
* yar: so i can do something other than abstain at omni meetings
* yar: if anyone wants to be delegate, i'm ready to be replaced... for years
* jenny: we have a delegates mailing list. so whenever sudo room consenses on a delegate, we can coordinate on who reps sudo room at any given delegates meeting. those are twice a month. i can't... yar's sudo room delegate. i'm sudo room board member? if anyone wants to be board members... but delegate's more important.
* yar: ... which i've been bad about... doing too many things.
* jake: thank you for doing those things.
** thank you!
* marc: i think i'm on the allowed list for sudo/ccl(?)
* jenny: i could do mesh if you want to do sudo for a bit. or jake. or alex or ?
* ?: doesn't need to just be one person. ccl has two, and they trade off. just need to coordinate between each other.
* jenny: or if we start having these sudo room meetings on the regular, we can decide a day before the omni meetings who should rep sudo room in the delegates.

* jake: what do i do with the $5K of bitcoin?
* bitcoins are being transferred.
* marc: i'm not best person, because places to buy/sell like to have IDs, which i don't have, as a non-citizen.

yar: i don't understand. we're transferring it to a wallet you set up jake?
* jake: yes. it's a wallet that a company controls.
*? what company?
* jake: coinbase.
* jake: when we decide to put funds into babylon.
** eventually our bank will take it...

cel mentions bitcoin forks and multisig.
* concerns about single person having access
** electrum wallet and its forks support multisig
*** BTC: https://electrum.org/
*** BCH: https://electroncash.org/
*** BSV: https://electrumsv.io/

* jenny thanks cel for taking notes & setting up mtg & knowing things about cryptocurrencies :D

* cel: probably should have separate wallets for the different bitcoin forks.

** jenny: i hereby nominate cel to role of security officer...
*** cel appreciates the suggestion...

== Events, Meetings, Network Bandwidth Issues ==

* juul: should we talk about events?
** Ongoing doc for reopening: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lINDe6awkBxiTrXc280A23OKCEp46iKTf2PegIX9Mgw/edit

* cel: should change meeting time?
** juul: think should, because overlapping with CCL. we could change the time, or the day.
** jenny: don't say tuesday, because that's sudo mesh
** marc: and hack night
* jenny: and thursday is omni... but if we did it earlier... omni meetings start at 7 (PST). maybe tuesdays are fine. traditionally we have sudo mesh at 8pm.
* marc: we could do tuesdays if people are up for it. or later on wednesdays. or earlier.
* yar: from experience at the commons wg, it was difficult to manage the bridge. especially if you're one of the people there physically. especially as omni's internet is slow.
* jenny: situation with that... can't get the fiber yet because they're not offering business connections.
* marc: we can't because it's more expensive...
* jake: drill down the floor to where they have the BART dark fiber
* marc: why slow? is it a problem with our ISP, or us?
* yar: just because the pipe we're paying for is not thick enough. i think throughput is the problem. we're paying for copper..
* marc: no, it's a VDSL... close to the cnter.... 30Mbits down, 20Mbits up.
* jenny: i think we recorded it as 20MBps up
** marc: we can just call them.
*** yar: i've always had issues trying to do any real-time application at omni

* jenny: maybe we could have an in-person meeting to investigate.
* yar: i think a meetup would be useful. one of the private networks went down last summer.. there are machines still inaccessible.
* jenny: i didn't see that.
* yar: on sysadmins list. think pipe is too little.
* jake: ... can't.
* ?: have meeting...
* marc: sunday?
* alex: should be a time convenient for whoever knows the infrastructure. probably marc and yar
* jenny: and daniel.
* yar: i don't want to be there on sundays, but i'm happy to call in. most of the information i can just give over the phone.
* alex: sunday should be okay for me. if you want to do that
* alex: what would be helpful would be a summary of things broken.
* yar: i can't send email to sudo-discuss. do we want sudo-sys? or should it just be put on sudo-discuss.
* jenny: ... either we could make a push to add more folks to the sysadmins list. or we could redirect the emails that come into it to sudo room or something. there are randos... i think it's still valuable to have a somewhat secure list... maybe something to add to sudo room out-of-hibernation tasks to try to pull more folks onto the list. but maybe 70% of people on that list are no longer involved.
* marc: IIRC it's about $300/month to get commercial fiber. i can check if the prices changed. i've been doing research on access points to replace the current ones. first ... working great. also ordered some the haven't arrived yet.
* alex: when i was at omni last, daniel mentioned someone had rack mount switches willing to donate. any use?
* marc: only use is if someone sells them to donate.
* jake: are they PoE powered, or generated PoE?
* alex: i think they generate PoE
* yar: but they consume power, put out heat...
* marc: we do need PoE routers... that's how we ... only have one left.
* alex: does someone want to contact daniel? i don't think anyone's going to sell them on ebay
* jake: craigslist! i'll do it
* alex: really? you should do it. totally.
* jenny: can i recruit you to help marc and i clear out this... good stuff

* jenny: only 8 people on the sysadmins list. 4 out of 8 are no longer involved with omni/sudo in any way whatsover. wow, a very useless sysadmins list. the only useful people on here are yar, marc, myself, and david keenan.
** To join: https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/sysadmins/
* cel: thought was talking about sudo-sys list
* jenny: omni sysdmins list. should remove ... folks not involved. ... i'll send an email out.

* ... meeting time?
* cel: weekly or monthly
* let's do it weekly. 6pm. wednesday 6pm? previous reason was it takes time to get from work...
* jake: people don't want to work.

* cel asks about the mumble bridging attempt. should it be attempted again or not worth it?

* jenny: what are advantages to have a mumble bridge? low bandwidth situations... other reasons. a lot of people internationally use it. i do in my work.
* alex: web-based vs need for separate app. only reason to prefer it over mumble.

* yar: if traffic from mumble goes through sudo room, it will be more than our bandwidth. but if peer-to-peer...
* marc: mumble is extremely low bandwidth
* jake: i think we should give mumble more of a chance. appreciate cel's endorsement of it. some hesitation to use it because it's not a browser thing - but it could be worth it if it performs better. but don't think sudo room is best place for a server for it.
* jenny: i think it is the right place for a server for it. one of primary reasons to use something like mumble is if communication blocked by state gov, etc. having IP addresses associated with servers isn't a benefit... not really a use case for sudo room right now, but would be good to model. providing a multiplicity of things to connect to ... that don't rely on ip blocks by state goverments
* yar: going, bye
* cel: bandwidth limit?
* marc: think it's fine. we're going to upgrade to it the connection. i prefer mumble.

* carl's background... the cubatron.

* marc: it's a video bandwidth embiggenator.

* carl talks about how hayward techies are still having meetings.
* jenny suggests writing an upbraiding email to sudo-discuss

Meeting Notes 2021-05-12

2021-05-13T05:42:32Z

Cel: /* Attendees */ Add Carl and Alex

Sudo Room Meeting, 2021-05-12 7pm

= Info =
* Announced:
** https://sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-announce/2021-May/000156.html
** https://sudoroom.org/lists/private/sudo-discuss/2021-May/015788.html
* Connection info:
** https://meet.jit.si/SudoRoomMeeting
** mumble://room.sudoroom.org/Meeting
** irc://chat.freenode.net/#sudoroom

= Attendees =
* cel
* yar
* kira
* jake
* tim
* jenny
* juul
* mike
* adam
* angle
* carl
* alex

= Notes =

== Do We Exist? ==
PROPOSAL: What is the situation & what NEEDS to be done for sudoroom to continue existing?

* Yar: Do we want Sudo Room to exist and stuff?
* Someone: Sure
* yar: Are we sure? Because we're not acting like it.
* Jake: I was there last night.
* Yar: me too.

* Adam and Mike wave - visible in camera of Jake

* cel (Charles) says hello

== Fundraising ==

* Tim: What is the status of the card access for Sudo Room members to the Omni Commons building?
* Jake: All the cards were disabled a while ago.
* Tim: So cards were disabled, but they want Sudo Room to pay rent? At the same time, Omni Commons has not been paying mortage or property taxes. yet they're asking us to pay rent while we are locked out the building. Does anyone have any comments on this situation?
* Yar: Omni has closed access and will probably not open up for a month or too.

* Tim: Another concern is that since Omni Commons has not paid propery taxes on the building, it's possible it could be foreclosed on by the county next year. And they could owe $250K in back taxes. Furthermore, they would have to come up with a minumim of 70$ cash in time to comnitne

* Yar: If you are interested, I can invite you to the meetings. They happen on Tuesdays.
* People are aware of it.
* will be rescheduling Finance WG meetings so they are not happening at beginning of the week, midday :P

* Tim: I know, but it doesn't seem like to continue for a year.
* Yar; but people may have more situational awareness on the subject than you. If you want to go into it, they can. Just don't know if Sudo Room is best place for it.
* Tim: they are asking Sudo Room.
** Tim: Where is it going to?
* Yar: Omni's operational costs. Not rent, but loan payment. They want to be confident that we can pay back the loan.
* It's important that we show them we have the income flowing.

* Tim: I understand, just trying to understand what we can ...
** If applying for loan, anyone can see behind on prop taxes. And lien attached.

* It doesn't look that good if going to get loan and behind 5 years.

* We are nonprofit. Applied for exemption Feb 2017.
* It's put as a disputed asset. I suggest...

* Tim: How about fundraiser for Sudo Room to pay off past balances?

* Jake: GoFundMe suggested because doesn't have threshold. For basically $20k, say Sudo Room needs this money to stay viable.
* It should be obvious why we need it; there has been shutdown... people leaving homes...
** So we just have to set that up and put it out there.

* cel reports stabilizing the mumble-jitsi bridge, apologies earlier was bad. someone says thanks.
** The problem was that the video was not disabled on the bridge, which was taking up bandwidth.

=== Bitcoin ===

* Alex: Bitcoin Wallets. Wallet for donations?
** Jenny: yes, we have it, the address on a locked page on the wiki. Marc to join later. Bitcoin donations can be sent to it. I think would be best opportunity for Sudo Room to accrue donations.

* Alex: is there an existing balance that we can tap into?

* cel: it has balance, also in altcoins

* yar: email said $3350. has not gone to sudo room's bank account or omni. https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
almost $6000...
* jake: we should do it right now. becase elon suddenly realized it it's anti-environmental. there is no SEC to shut him down for manipulating the value. so now would be the time.
* yar: i agree, let's do it.
** jenny: and he is one of the backers of...
* jake: he's use using it to make money ... not surprising
* yar: just a few weeks after he said can buy a tesla to buy it
* jake: he just used his platform to magnify the value of it... then go on tv to say bad... obviously already sold it... no regulation
* Marc joins
* jake: ... good idea to make a new bitcoin address because just one person has access to it.
** ... carl knew someone who knew people who might want to donate. could suggest it to noisebridge...
* jake: definitely. thought there was an email
* carl: i don't know where they're from. maybe hacker dojo. i'll send an email. no idea how much. could be $100
* cel: ... other forked coins
** https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
*** 2.02161675 BCH / 2,415.21 USD
** https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-sv/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
*** 2.02161675 BSV / 621.99 USD
* yar: marc, can you confirm access and can sell?
* marc: have access, but cannot sell. can transfer.
* jake: i'm willing.
* jake to send address to marc.

* yar: great, sounds like we'll have a lot more money. huge. thank you.

* 7:44 jake's internet scheduled downtime
* yar: when come back, will have memory?
* jake: resets...

* cel: HNS (handshake coins)?
* jake: can. need to check notes. have seed phrase...
** jenny: ...
*** marc: sudo mesh's..
* jake: i'm willing to donate mine, but don't know how. i have scripts and passphrase

* jenny: related idea: sudo mesh could pay some of sudo room's invoices. sudo * mesh has the money, and not using it right now.
* ?: we wouldn't say no
** jake: i consent
*** yar?: i also consent
* jake?: not a great time to sell
** jenny: how to actually sell?
* marc: simple if you have the right ideas
* jenny: ... when have an actually sudo mesh
* cel: sounds like HNS to think about after bitcoin
* yar: sell Bitcoin will go a long way. at least for next several months. but we * should make a plan to pay back and stay current. we're still in the ... red.

=== SudoRoom Rent Shortfall, Situation with Omni, Repair Work ===

* carl: wanted to ask about numbers. regarding sudo debt and omni... how is the omni doing?

* yar: i can answer. let's start with sudo room. right now owes $12000. that is going to go up to $14000 in a couple weeks when our rent ("charitble contribution") is next due. currently have $2800 in bank account ready to be transfered. and the omni delegates are considering possibly.... they have asked us to get current by august. if we can't, it's possibly we might lose our omni membership. not just us but true of all groups that are behind. considering that we're not even pulling enough money to stay current right now, my idea is that we should make a gofundme for $20k to run through july, that would mean good until july. simultaneously, we should make a plan to have our income line up with our expenses ... a august. two plans: to catch up, and to stay caught up. makes sense?

* marc: sounds good.

* carl: then in the wider omni collective, i'm assuming there are other groups behind... how is the omni doing in general?
* yar: no one is as behind as sudo room
* jenny: but sudo room pays 10x them
* yar: ... even in terms of months... but omni is going to be okay. if the loan application is rejected, it will be a crisis. but we're hoping it will not be rejected. we worked hard on it and are in a good position(?)
* jenny: no where near ... 2016 crisis... we're being scrutinized for these applications. something like $90k in the bank, kind of a pittance of savings for a $2M building with much needed improvements in next 2-3 years, like the roof.
* yar: we're asking for a $1.1M loan. a little extra for capital improvements.

* jake: ... circuit breakers?

* alex: monthly shortfall?
* jenny: $700 ... based on last april's profit and loss... thanks to everyone who contributed, made improvements...
* jake: i had a little burst of activity, tried to log into stripe, to see if people i could think of who i thought were donating, to decide whether to send them an email... got stuck because of 2FA. got through that. might ...
* jenny: ... year, requires 2f-auth. but backup code in our passpack. can choose to auth another way.
* jake: back. next disappear at 7:56, 8:02, 8:08, 8:14. ... monkey brains ... roof antenna

* jake: ... money situation ... to replace the federal pacific breakers. found one insurance company that will insure but charge alot.
* yar: not a company, but a gov agency set up as insurer of last resort.
* jake: good to know, thank you. i assume there is some value to shop around for an insurance policy. and value in replacing the breakers. several of us volunteers have gone in and stuck our hands in them, half way through ridding the omni of this dangerous equipment. i was eventually convinced by ... deep space nine station ... voice of reason...
* yar: i identify with cisco(?) better
* jake: what is your personal star trek pronoun ...jenny a picard
* jenny: make it so
* jake: so i was willing to accept a compromise: i'll allow the professionals to allow... 2 breaker boxes in room in corner where power comes in building. but i want to do all the others. we've got them identified and we're gonna do it.
* jenny: then we can petition omni to let off some rent
* jake: exactly. and they could do it already since we've already done several breaker boxes. so i'd like to formally introduce this idea to this clear quorum of sudoers... 2 ciscos, some bridge, carl. i want us to consent to a numerical figure to the omni as a bill: we did this work and its done. and we can do these others. so omni at their meeting can say looks good, let's give them twice as much.
* yar: i like this idea... and i'm not opposed to it. i think first of all it would be a little tone-deaf for us to call the work finished - since all the work we've done so far still require some follow-up work to make nice like a professional would do. so i'd like to wait until we can make it nice. before we ask for money for that, we should probably remove the panel entirely and add a junction box... it would be so much better. what we focused on so far is making them safer, and they are. but they're not as nice; think we should wait until we can raise the standard. i think we should ask for this money but also get caught up in parallel and use that as savings
* jake: i didn't hear everything but object...
** jenny: to be contrarian?
*** jake: didn't hear...
**** yar re-summarizes.
***** jake: what? no.
* yar: i think if we're going to be paid we should do it to professional standards.
** jake: i hear that but disagree a professional would not consider ... this acceptable
*** ... can ask a professional. but specifically would not ask K... Walt... [Kierans?]
*** ... who wrote an email recently and said "well i doubt your volunteers have precision torque calibrated tools" gross fear-mongering. i would like to have a neutral (he is not as he has expressed strong) party, like david keanon...
* jenny: keenan has looked at a million panels
* jake: ... or someone he designates, to evaluate it, and i'll go with what they say.
* alex: we should get it to the bar so we can ask for more money... as if it were "gold-plated"
* jake: we can gold-plate stuff, but someone needs to donate the gold... someone needs to get the gold
** alex: if money... gold... then it's worth doing?
*** ...agree
* jake: agree, get neutral party like DK or designee to look at BAA and see if the job is done. then don't need to do more work on that.
* yar: don't think it's necessary to go to that length. can ask for money and they'll give it to us - just need to ask in a way that sounds reasonable. i think we can get to that point with all the panels. it's probably going to be me actually arguing on that on the "floor", so want to make sure things are defensible for the sake of my reputation.
* jake: so let's get david keanon or his designee to ...

* yar: the original estimates from kent kates (not the person jake's upset about) estimated $2k to replace AC, which Jake and Alex apparently did yesterday - well, they deactivated it - and $2500 to replace panel BAA, which they did yesterday; $3000 to replace AA, which they didi a couple weeks ago, and another $5000 to replace AD and AE, which are coming up - next on the list.
* jake: very nice
* alex: is this being documented?
* jenny: awesome, thank you.
* alex: just totalled it up.. about $7.
* jake: let's do it.
* yar: $7500
* jake: let's do it
* jenny: also omnicommmons.org/electrical i believe has images of the panels.
* jake: i updated it last night
* jenny: amazing.
* jake: anyone good at wiki wants to fix a bug?
* yar: i'm getting to it...
* jenny: i can handle it.

talking about star treck... DS9...

* yar: big question: are we going to set up this gofundme?
* ?: is there a better platform that accepts cryptocurrency?
* ?: don't know
* yar: i think we should have something that takes both crypto and fiat dollars, but is just as easy to use as gofundme
* jenny: it could be done in tandem, adding the wallet address to the campaign. gofundme has the amplication effect.
* we could make a video... make ourselves seem desparate... but not too desparate.
* yar?: socially acceptable to desparate right now
* alex: thread-bare hackers with ancient laptops

* alex: we've discussed a bunch of one-time big contributions to get us out of the hole. main issue seems to be month-to-month.
* ?: yes.
* jenny: cel did you do something with sudo-humans?
* cel: not really. but also want to mention opencollective for consideration.
* jenny: i was going to mention that too. if sudo-humans is dead, let's go with that.
* marc: i am evaluating systems - access control and payment things that other hackerspaces have been maintaining. made a list. there is one from a place in australia that looks pretty good.
* alex: how significant is the software [vs. other membership concerns]... if had perfect software, would be okay?
* jenny?: unclear... hard to say until we look at the data from stripe. how many members have unsubcribed, or their debit card got unhinged...
* jake: it doesn't super matter whether one or the other. if people aren't paying, it's a good time to contact people, and ask how would you feel about volunteering... to catch up. this is basically church. you don't tithe to your hackerspace,you go to hell, have to run windows...
* yar: ...fix other peoples windows.
* marc: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/List_of_existing_hackerspace_access_control_software
* alex: ...
* marc: it's definitely a priority. can have the other discussion as well.
* yar: priority is the gofundme. then we'll have a couple months to talk about how to get back arrears. to summarize my thoughts about attracting people, it is to be cleaner. in particular have a clean floor one inch thick expoxy to the walls so no mouse holes everywhere.
* tim?: also good to have more remote participation.
* jenny: yeah, bring the inter-hackerspace tv back into action.
* alex: sounds like we have to do the software.
* jenny: marc will make suggestions. launching gofundme... part of that will be ... perks for certain tiers of donations. could be access to ... one-on-one tutorial/demo/teaching session on e.g. how to use laser cutter (which would entail fixing laser cutter).
* alex: what about a welding robot as a perk?
* jenny: ?
* yar: i see what you did there.
* ... how about mitch altman's tv as a perk.
* alex: the dream things are not a bad idea as a perk.
* ...: and the tv-be-gone
* marc: highest donation gets exempt from lottery of who gets to take away the robot arm
* yar: it would take up less space if we hung it from the rafters upside down
* jenny: don't think that particular roof section is load-bearing. it's dicy
* marc: roof would take up less space if we did that.
* yar: what if the arm took a structural role in supporting the roof. a flying buttress...
* jake: how dare you, what are you talking about, it has feelings.
* jenny: doesn't it have googly eyes?
* jake: it needs to feel you with its arm to feel its feelings, that's how it feels you
* yar: hasn't been turned on in past 5 years.
* jake: i'm just going to pretend i didn't hear anything disparaging the robot arm... one of the best things in the hackerspace. would much rather hear things people want to do with it... we have python libraries... serial port... have build accessories... have a giant laser for it, router, plasma cutter...
* marc: but it hasn't been working
* yar: valid to question if it hasn't been in use ... put it somewhere else... maybe someone has a room.
* jake: okay, i'll take it... it works. but if people don't think it's a cool thing
* jenny: remember things have been shut down for a year. just because has been stagnant for a long time, doesn't mean it can't be revived.
* jake: ...
* yar: it's cool, but so many other foundational issues we're facing
* jenny: foundational issue taking up time and energy... towards the goal of floor.
* yar: want to do floor.
* jake: robot arm will help you do floor. it's an arm.
* yar: is it going to wear shoes while it.... brushes the epoxy
* jenny: ...
* yar: you're being ridiculuous. okay if jokes. but seriously... not helping epoxy the floor
* jenny: removing the robot arm not helping us either.
* yar: fine with putting 2x4s around it and epoxy around it. fine, but will need to orient it to not get in the way of the concrete grinding machines that we're going to use.
* jake: so you're saying you object to the robot arm's orientation?
* alex?: why wasn't the robot arm invited to the meeting?
* jenny: #rightsforrobots
* marc: because it's been breaking the rules not wearing a room and being in sudo room all this time.
* ...

more star trek talk. season 1... 2... rick berman...

* yar: who's going to set up this fundraiser?
* jenny: should probably start with a collaborative doc to get some language and images together... i can start that. if anyone's interested in making some video clips and collaborated... liberated lens... i can share with ... when people are in the space.
* marc: i'm also up to do some filming. have we agreed on rules for being sudo room? are we going to do the same thing CCL's doing?
* jenny: yes, there is a current thread for omni reopening policy on omni-discuss list. this is something we'll need to have a concrete proposal on. not sure if patrick is going to do it. but by and large following CCL's lead is a good plan. copy-paste them.
* marc: should do same thing as CCL - thing to read temperature at door, don't need to buy another one. check in sheet, so if someone tests COVID-19 positive, can see who was in the space at the same time as them. then people keep their distance.
* yar: hard to control access, because sudo room gets passed through, vs. CCL is off to the side.
* jenny: agenda item: doors and access system. we are supposedly implementing an actual door access system at the doorway to sudo/CCL. the door is there. panic bar(?) is installed. marc knows some things.
* alex: marc, jake, david keanon and i had exchanges.... hardware/software... sudo doors: hardware currently on the door to CCL. what to do about the door to the basement?
* marc: it's not a fire door is it?
* jenny; it's not a primary egress point but it is an egress point. there is a panic bar from the basement to sudo
** ?: there is? no
* jenny: well, there is already ... at other doors. don't think it's a necessary egress point.
* alex: access control to sudo/ccl door and leaving that one open...
* marc: no, not leaving open unless in the space
* jenny: lock is on the basement side... we can switch it out. not a great door. good for sneakily going from basement to sudo...
* yar: it's a bad door. for inspections, david keanon specifically instructed me to keep it closed and act like it's not there, like it's just a wall.
* alex: so we're planning to seal that door off?
* yar: i think it can be useful.
* jenny: i use it all the time
* yar: ... i was ... in the basement ... kept going to sudo room to get parts. but if not ones in sudo room, it should be locked.
* alex: from sudo room's side
* yar: yes.
* yar: basement is meant to be common space
** jenny: lock may need to be switched to the sudo room side. i'm pretty sure it is on the basement side.

* jake: ... did we finish what to do about asking omni to give credit for work already done? does anything need to be done to make that happen?
* yar: i think we should come to a solid proposal to lift it. at next week's delegate's meeting, i'll float the idea, and see what the response is
** alex: good idea
* jake: before, i'll ask keanon to look through at the 3-4 things we've done, and be willing to look at this and say it's true they fixed the 3 or 4 boxes or whatever.
* yar: like whatever ... would have done.
* jake: to say sudo room would like to be compensated for the work ... as follows.
* yar: it think david keanon is a better person to do it, vs. a licensed electrician...
* jenny; technically i think david is still a sudo room member, so some bias there. but he joined every collective... in 2014.

jenny: should we bring up the NOMA N? Mutual Aid proposal?
* yar: so i can do something other than abstain at omni meetings
* yar: if anyone wants to be delegate, i'm ready to be replaced... for years
* jenny: we have a delegates mailing list. so whenever sudo room consenses on a delegate, we can coordinate on who reps sudo room at any given delegates meeting. those are twice a month. i can't... yar's sudo room delegate. i'm sudo room board member? if anyone wants to be board members... but delegate's more important.
* yar: ... which i've been bad about... doing too many things.
* jake: thank you for doing those things.
** thank you!
* marc: i think i'm on the allowed list for sudo/ccl(?)
* jenny: i could do mesh if you want to do sudo for a bit. or jake. or alex or ?
* ?: doesn't need to just be one person. ccl has two, and they trade off. just need to coordinate between each other.
* jenny: or if we start having these sudo room meetings on the regular, we can decide a day before the omni meetings who should rep sudo room in the delegates.

* jake: what do i do with the $5K of bitcoin?
* bitcoins are being transferred.
* marc: i'm not best person, because places to buy/sell like to have IDs, which i don't have, as a non-citizen.

yar: i don't understand. we're transferring it to a wallet you set up jake?
* jake: yes. it's a wallet that a company controls.
*? what company?
* jake: coinbase.
* jake: when we decide to put funds into babylon.
** eventually our bank will take it...

cel mentions bitcoin forks and multisig.
* concerns about single person having access
** electrum wallet and its forks support multisig
*** BTC: https://electrum.org/
*** BCH: https://electroncash.org/
*** BSV: https://electrumsv.io/

* jenny thanks cel for taking notes & setting up mtg & knowing things about cryptocurrencies :D

* cel: probably should have separate wallets for the different bitcoin forks.

** jenny: i hereby nominate cel to role of security officer...
*** cel appreciates the suggestion...

== Events, Meetings, Network Bandwidth Issues ==

* juul: should we talk about events?
** Ongoing doc for reopening: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lINDe6awkBxiTrXc280A23OKCEp46iKTf2PegIX9Mgw/edit

* cel: should change meeting time?
** juul: think should, because overlapping with CCL. we could change the time, or the day.
** jenny: don't say tuesday, because that's sudo mesh
** marc: and hack night
* jenny: and thursday is omni... but if we did it earlier... omni meetings start at 7 (PST). maybe tuesdays are fine. traditionally we have sudo mesh at 8pm.
* marc: we could do tuesdays if people are up for it. or later on wednesdays. or earlier.
* yar: from experience at the commons wg, it was difficult to manage the bridge. especially if you're one of the people there physically. especially as omni's internet is slow.
* jenny: situation with that... can't get the fiber yet because they're not offering business connections.
* marc: we can't because it's more expensive...
* jake: drill down the floor to where they have the BART dark fiber
* marc: why slow? is it a problem with our ISP, or us?
* yar: just because the pipe we're paying for is not thick enough. i think throughput is the problem. we're paying for copper..
* marc: no, it's a VDSL... close to the cnter.... 30Mbits down, 20Mbits up.
* jenny: i think we recorded it as 20MBps up
** marc: we can just call them.
*** yar: i've always had issues trying to do any real-time application at omni

* jenny: maybe we could have an in-person meeting to investigate.
* yar: i think a meetup would be useful. one of the private networks went down last summer.. there are machines still inaccessible.
* jenny: i didn't see that.
* yar: on sysadmins list. think pipe is too little.
* jake: ... can't.
* ?: have meeting...
* marc: sunday?
* alex: should be a time convenient for whoever knows the infrastructure. probably marc and yar
* jenny: and daniel.
* yar: i don't want to be there on sundays, but i'm happy to call in. most of the information i can just give over the phone.
* alex: sunday should be okay for me. if you want to do that
* alex: what would be helpful would be a summary of things broken.
* yar: i can't send email to sudo-discuss. do we want sudo-sys? or should it just be put on sudo-discuss.
* jenny: ... either we could make a push to add more folks to the sysadmins list. or we could redirect the emails that come into it to sudo room or something. there are randos... i think it's still valuable to have a somewhat secure list... maybe something to add to sudo room out-of-hibernation tasks to try to pull more folks onto the list. but maybe 70% of people on that list are no longer involved.
* marc: IIRC it's about $300/month to get commercial fiber. i can check if the prices changed. i've been doing research on access points to replace the current ones. first ... working great. also ordered some the haven't arrived yet.
* alex: when i was at omni last, daniel mentioned someone had rack mount switches willing to donate. any use?
* marc: only use is if someone sells them to donate.
* jake: are they PoE powered, or generated PoE?
* alex: i think they generate PoE
* yar: but they consume power, put out heat...
* marc: we do need PoE routers... that's how we ... only have one left.
* alex: does someone want to contact daniel? i don't think anyone's going to sell them on ebay
* jake: craigslist! i'll do it
* alex: really? you should do it. totally.
* jenny: can i recruit you to help marc and i clear out this... good stuff

* jenny: only 8 people on the sysadmins list. 4 out of 8 are no longer involved with omni/sudo in any way whatsover. wow, a very useless sysadmins list. the only useful people on here are yar, marc, myself, and david keenan.
** To join: https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/sysadmins/
* cel: thought was talking about sudo-sys list
* jenny: omni sysdmins list. should remove ... folks not involved. ... i'll send an email out.

* ... meeting time?
* cel: weekly or monthly
* let's do it weekly. 6pm. wednesday 6pm? previous reason was it takes time to get from work...
* jake: people don't want to work.

* cel asks about the mumble bridging attempt. should it be attempted again or not worth it?

* jenny: what are advantages to have a mumble bridge? low bandwidth situations... other reasons. a lot of people internationally use it. i do in my work.
* alex: web-based vs need for separate app. only reason to prefer it over mumble.

* yar: if traffic from mumble goes through sudo room, it will be more than our bandwidth. but if peer-to-peer...
* marc: mumble is extremely low bandwidth
* jake: i think we should give mumble more of a chance. appreciate cel's endorsement of it. some hesitation to use it because it's not a browser thing - but it could be worth it if it performs better. but don't think sudo room is best place for a server for it.
* jenny: i think it is the right place for a server for it. one of primary reasons to use something like mumble is if communication blocked by state gov, etc. having IP addresses associated with servers isn't a benefit... not really a use case for sudo room right now, but would be good to model. providing a multiplicity of things to connect to ... that don't rely on ip blocks by state goverments
* yar: going, bye
* cel: bandwidth limit?
* marc: think it's fine. we're going to upgrade to it the connection. i prefer mumble.

* carl's background... the cubatron.

* marc: it's a video bandwidth embiggenator.

* carl talks about how hayward techies are still having meetings.
* jenny suggests writing an upbraiding email to sudo-discuss

Meetings

2021-05-13T05:20:17Z

Cel: Change meeting time to 6pm as decided at 2021-05-12 meeting

[[File:Sudo Room Meeting April 17, 2013.jpg|thumb|right|April 2013 Meeting]]
Sudoroom's official meetings are every 2nd Wednesday of the month at 6pm, or sometimes as late as 7:30. They are bureaucratic, sometimes fun, and usually more functional than rumored. We try to handle conflicts respectfully.

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== Future meeting topics ==

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== Archive ==

Each old meeting gets its own page, and we link to them here.

{| class="wikitable sortable collapsible"
! colspan="3"| Past Meeting Notes
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! data-sort-type="isoDate" | date
! class="unsortable" | new member interviews
! class="unsortable" | comments
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| [[Meeting Notes 2021-05-12|2021-05-12]]
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| Sudo Room decides to continue existing and stuff
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| [[Sudoroom_Meeting_2019_04_03|2019-04-03]]
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| discussion & consensus about GCEA proposals & paying Jenny for bookkeeping
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-04-11|2018-04-11]]
| Rich
| Steve banned, omni proposals mentioned but not discussed
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-03-14|2018-03-14]]
| Tom Levine Andrew Vaziri
| Change to membership process passed, endorsing statement from The Village to City, discussion of conflict w/ Steve
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-01-10|2018-01-10]]
| Jacques Noah
| melissa and sierk as new omni delegates;
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-12-13|2017-12-13]]
| * Adam Bredenberg Melissa Crow Pato Adam Eric Jan
| discussion of finances, omni cafe proposal discussion
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-29|2017-11-29]]
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| Another irregular meeting, with two topics of interest.
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-08|2017-11-08]]
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-11-01|2017-11-01]]
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| Not a usual meeting date, but notes were taken.
|-
| [[Meeting_Notes_2017-08-13|2017-08-13]]
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[[Category:SudoRoom Organization]][[Category:Meetings]]

Meeting Notes 2021-05-12

2021-05-13T05:17:19Z

Cel: Add notes

Sudo Room Meeting, 2021-05-12 7pm

= Info =
* Announced:
** https://sudoroom.org/pipermail/sudo-announce/2021-May/000156.html
** https://sudoroom.org/lists/private/sudo-discuss/2021-May/015788.html
* Connection info:
** https://meet.jit.si/SudoRoomMeeting
** mumble://room.sudoroom.org/Meeting
** irc://chat.freenode.net/#sudoroom

= Attendees =
* cel
* yar
* kira
* jake
* tim
* jenny
* juul
* mike
* adam
* angle

= Notes =

== Do We Exist? ==
PROPOSAL: What is the situation & what NEEDS to be done for sudoroom to continue existing?

* Yar: Do we want Sudo Room to exist and stuff?
* Someone: Sure
* yar: Are we sure? Because we're not acting like it.
* Jake: I was there last night.
* Yar: me too.

* Adam and Mike wave - visible in camera of Jake

* cel (Charles) says hello

== Fundraising ==

* Tim: What is the status of the card access for Sudo Room members to the Omni Commons building?
* Jake: All the cards were disabled a while ago.
* Tim: So cards were disabled, but they want Sudo Room to pay rent? At the same time, Omni Commons has not been paying mortage or property taxes. yet they're asking us to pay rent while we are locked out the building. Does anyone have any comments on this situation?
* Yar: Omni has closed access and will probably not open up for a month or too.

* Tim: Another concern is that since Omni Commons has not paid propery taxes on the building, it's possible it could be foreclosed on by the county next year. And they could owe $250K in back taxes. Furthermore, they would have to come up with a minumim of 70$ cash in time to comnitne

* Yar: If you are interested, I can invite you to the meetings. They happen on Tuesdays.
* People are aware of it.
* will be rescheduling Finance WG meetings so they are not happening at beginning of the week, midday :P

* Tim: I know, but it doesn't seem like to continue for a year.
* Yar; but people may have more situational awareness on the subject than you. If you want to go into it, they can. Just don't know if Sudo Room is best place for it.
* Tim: they are asking Sudo Room.
** Tim: Where is it going to?
* Yar: Omni's operational costs. Not rent, but loan payment. They want to be confident that we can pay back the loan.
* It's important that we show them we have the income flowing.

* Tim: I understand, just trying to understand what we can ...
** If applying for loan, anyone can see behind on prop taxes. And lien attached.

* It doesn't look that good if going to get loan and behind 5 years.

* We are nonprofit. Applied for exemption Feb 2017.
* It's put as a disputed asset. I suggest...

* Tim: How about fundraiser for Sudo Room to pay off past balances?

* Jake: GoFundMe suggested because doesn't have threshold. For basically $20k, say Sudo Room needs this money to stay viable.
* It should be obvious why we need it; there has been shutdown... people leaving homes...
** So we just have to set that up and put it out there.

* cel reports stabilizing the mumble-jitsi bridge, apologies earlier was bad. someone says thanks.
** The problem was that the video was not disabled on the bridge, which was taking up bandwidth.

=== Bitcoin ===

* Alex: Bitcoin Wallets. Wallet for donations?
** Jenny: yes, we have it, the address on a locked page on the wiki. Marc to join later. Bitcoin donations can be sent to it. I think would be best opportunity for Sudo Room to accrue donations.

* Alex: is there an existing balance that we can tap into?

* cel: it has balance, also in altcoins

* yar: email said $3350. has not gone to sudo room's bank account or omni. https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
almost $6000...
* jake: we should do it right now. becase elon suddenly realized it it's anti-environmental. there is no SEC to shut him down for manipulating the value. so now would be the time.
* yar: i agree, let's do it.
** jenny: and he is one of the backers of...
* jake: he's use using it to make money ... not surprising
* yar: just a few weeks after he said can buy a tesla to buy it
* jake: he just used his platform to magnify the value of it... then go on tv to say bad... obviously already sold it... no regulation
* Marc joins
* jake: ... good idea to make a new bitcoin address because just one person has access to it.
** ... carl knew someone who knew people who might want to donate. could suggest it to noisebridge...
* jake: definitely. thought there was an email
* carl: i don't know where they're from. maybe hacker dojo. i'll send an email. no idea how much. could be $100
* cel: ... other forked coins
** https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-cash/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
*** 2.02161675 BCH / 2,415.21 USD
** https://blockchair.com/bitcoin-sv/address/177o6avyi7NQG45YYNUDQ7Fp51Y6Dxdxhv
*** 2.02161675 BSV / 621.99 USD
* yar: marc, can you confirm access and can sell?
* marc: have access, but cannot sell. can transfer.
* jake: i'm willing.
* jake to send address to marc.

* yar: great, sounds like we'll have a lot more money. huge. thank you.

* 7:44 jake's internet scheduled downtime
* yar: when come back, will have memory?
* jake: resets...

* cel: HNS (handshake coins)?
* jake: can. need to check notes. have seed phrase...
** jenny: ...
*** marc: sudo mesh's..
* jake: i'm willing to donate mine, but don't know how. i have scripts and passphrase

* jenny: related idea: sudo mesh could pay some of sudo room's invoices. sudo * mesh has the money, and not using it right now.
* ?: we wouldn't say no
** jake: i consent
*** yar?: i also consent
* jake?: not a great time to sell
** jenny: how to actually sell?
* marc: simple if you have the right ideas
* jenny: ... when have an actually sudo mesh
* cel: sounds like HNS to think about after bitcoin
* yar: sell Bitcoin will go a long way. at least for next several months. but we * should make a plan to pay back and stay current. we're still in the ... red.

=== SudoRoom Rent Shortfall, Situation with Omni, Repair Work ===

* carl: wanted to ask about numbers. regarding sudo debt and omni... how is the omni doing?

* yar: i can answer. let's start with sudo room. right now owes $12000. that is going to go up to $14000 in a couple weeks when our rent ("charitble contribution") is next due. currently have $2800 in bank account ready to be transfered. and the omni delegates are considering possibly.... they have asked us to get current by august. if we can't, it's possibly we might lose our omni membership. not just us but true of all groups that are behind. considering that we're not even pulling enough money to stay current right now, my idea is that we should make a gofundme for $20k to run through july, that would mean good until july. simultaneously, we should make a plan to have our income line up with our expenses ... a august. two plans: to catch up, and to stay caught up. makes sense?

* marc: sounds good.

* carl: then in the wider omni collective, i'm assuming there are other groups behind... how is the omni doing in general?
* yar: no one is as behind as sudo room
* jenny: but sudo room pays 10x them
* yar: ... even in terms of months... but omni is going to be okay. if the loan application is rejected, it will be a crisis. but we're hoping it will not be rejected. we worked hard on it and are in a good position(?)
* jenny: no where near ... 2016 crisis... we're being scrutinized for these applications. something like $90k in the bank, kind of a pittance of savings for a $2M building with much needed improvements in next 2-3 years, like the roof.
* yar: we're asking for a $1.1M loan. a little extra for capital improvements.

* jake: ... circuit breakers?

* alex: monthly shortfall?
* jenny: $700 ... based on last april's profit and loss... thanks to everyone who contributed, made improvements...
* jake: i had a little burst of activity, tried to log into stripe, to see if people i could think of who i thought were donating, to decide whether to send them an email... got stuck because of 2FA. got through that. might ...
* jenny: ... year, requires 2f-auth. but backup code in our passpack. can choose to auth another way.
* jake: back. next disappear at 7:56, 8:02, 8:08, 8:14. ... monkey brains ... roof antenna

* jake: ... money situation ... to replace the federal pacific breakers. found one insurance company that will insure but charge alot.
* yar: not a company, but a gov agency set up as insurer of last resort.
* jake: good to know, thank you. i assume there is some value to shop around for an insurance policy. and value in replacing the breakers. several of us volunteers have gone in and stuck our hands in them, half way through ridding the omni of this dangerous equipment. i was eventually convinced by ... deep space nine station ... voice of reason...
* yar: i identify with cisco(?) better
* jake: what is your personal star trek pronoun ...jenny a picard
* jenny: make it so
* jake: so i was willing to accept a compromise: i'll allow the professionals to allow... 2 breaker boxes in room in corner where power comes in building. but i want to do all the others. we've got them identified and we're gonna do it.
* jenny: then we can petition omni to let off some rent
* jake: exactly. and they could do it already since we've already done several breaker boxes. so i'd like to formally introduce this idea to this clear quorum of sudoers... 2 ciscos, some bridge, carl. i want us to consent to a numerical figure to the omni as a bill: we did this work and its done. and we can do these others. so omni at their meeting can say looks good, let's give them twice as much.
* yar: i like this idea... and i'm not opposed to it. i think first of all it would be a little tone-deaf for us to call the work finished - since all the work we've done so far still require some follow-up work to make nice like a professional would do. so i'd like to wait until we can make it nice. before we ask for money for that, we should probably remove the panel entirely and add a junction box... it would be so much better. what we focused on so far is making them safer, and they are. but they're not as nice; think we should wait until we can raise the standard. i think we should ask for this money but also get caught up in parallel and use that as savings
* jake: i didn't hear everything but object...
** jenny: to be contrarian?
*** jake: didn't hear...
**** yar re-summarizes.
***** jake: what? no.
* yar: i think if we're going to be paid we should do it to professional standards.
** jake: i hear that but disagree a professional would not consider ... this acceptable
*** ... can ask a professional. but specifically would not ask K... Walt... [Kierans?]
*** ... who wrote an email recently and said "well i doubt your volunteers have precision torque calibrated tools" gross fear-mongering. i would like to have a neutral (he is not as he has expressed strong) party, like david keanon...
* jenny: keenan has looked at a million panels
* jake: ... or someone he designates, to evaluate it, and i'll go with what they say.
* alex: we should get it to the bar so we can ask for more money... as if it were "gold-plated"
* jake: we can gold-plate stuff, but someone needs to donate the gold... someone needs to get the gold
** alex: if money... gold... then it's worth doing?
*** ...agree
* jake: agree, get neutral party like DK or designee to look at BAA and see if the job is done. then don't need to do more work on that.
* yar: don't think it's necessary to go to that length. can ask for money and they'll give it to us - just need to ask in a way that sounds reasonable. i think we can get to that point with all the panels. it's probably going to be me actually arguing on that on the "floor", so want to make sure things are defensible for the sake of my reputation.
* jake: so let's get david keanon or his designee to ...

* yar: the original estimates from kent kates (not the person jake's upset about) estimated $2k to replace AC, which Jake and Alex apparently did yesterday - well, they deactivated it - and $2500 to replace panel BAA, which they did yesterday; $3000 to replace AA, which they didi a couple weeks ago, and another $5000 to replace AD and AE, which are coming up - next on the list.
* jake: very nice
* alex: is this being documented?
* jenny: awesome, thank you.
* alex: just totalled it up.. about $7.
* jake: let's do it.
* yar: $7500
* jake: let's do it
* jenny: also omnicommmons.org/electrical i believe has images of the panels.
* jake: i updated it last night
* jenny: amazing.
* jake: anyone good at wiki wants to fix a bug?
* yar: i'm getting to it...
* jenny: i can handle it.

talking about star treck... DS9...

* yar: big question: are we going to set up this gofundme?
* ?: is there a better platform that accepts cryptocurrency?
* ?: don't know
* yar: i think we should have something that takes both crypto and fiat dollars, but is just as easy to use as gofundme
* jenny: it could be done in tandem, adding the wallet address to the campaign. gofundme has the amplication effect.
* we could make a video... make ourselves seem desparate... but not too desparate.
* yar?: socially acceptable to desparate right now
* alex: thread-bare hackers with ancient laptops

* alex: we've discussed a bunch of one-time big contributions to get us out of the hole. main issue seems to be month-to-month.
* ?: yes.
* jenny: cel did you do something with sudo-humans?
* cel: not really. but also want to mention opencollective for consideration.
* jenny: i was going to mention that too. if sudo-humans is dead, let's go with that.
* marc: i am evaluating systems - access control and payment things that other hackerspaces have been maintaining. made a list. there is one from a place in australia that looks pretty good.
* alex: how significant is the software [vs. other membership concerns]... if had perfect software, would be okay?
* jenny?: unclear... hard to say until we look at the data from stripe. how many members have unsubcribed, or their debit card got unhinged...
* jake: it doesn't super matter whether one or the other. if people aren't paying, it's a good time to contact people, and ask how would you feel about volunteering... to catch up. this is basically church. you don't tithe to your hackerspace,you go to hell, have to run windows...
* yar: ...fix other peoples windows.
* marc: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/List_of_existing_hackerspace_access_control_software
* alex: ...
* marc: it's definitely a priority. can have the other discussion as well.
* yar: priority is the gofundme. then we'll have a couple months to talk about how to get back arrears. to summarize my thoughts about attracting people, it is to be cleaner. in particular have a clean floor one inch thick expoxy to the walls so no mouse holes everywhere.
* tim?: also good to have more remote participation.
* jenny: yeah, bring the inter-hackerspace tv back into action.
* alex: sounds like we have to do the software.
* jenny: marc will make suggestions. launching gofundme... part of that will be ... perks for certain tiers of donations. could be access to ... one-on-one tutorial/demo/teaching session on e.g. how to use laser cutter (which would entail fixing laser cutter).
* alex: what about a welding robot as a perk?
* jenny: ?
* yar: i see what you did there.
* ... how about mitch altman's tv as a perk.
* alex: the dream things are not a bad idea as a perk.
* ...: and the tv-be-gone
* marc: highest donation gets exempt from lottery of who gets to take away the robot arm
* yar: it would take up less space if we hung it from the rafters upside down
* jenny: don't think that particular roof section is load-bearing. it's dicy
* marc: roof would take up less space if we did that.
* yar: what if the arm took a structural role in supporting the roof. a flying buttress...
* jake: how dare you, what are you talking about, it has feelings.
* jenny: doesn't it have googly eyes?
* jake: it needs to feel you with its arm to feel its feelings, that's how it feels you
* yar: hasn't been turned on in past 5 years.
* jake: i'm just going to pretend i didn't hear anything disparaging the robot arm... one of the best things in the hackerspace. would much rather hear things people want to do with it... we have python libraries... serial port... have build accessories... have a giant laser for it, router, plasma cutter...
* marc: but it hasn't been working
* yar: valid to question if it hasn't been in use ... put it somewhere else... maybe someone has a room.
* jake: okay, i'll take it... it works. but if people don't think it's a cool thing
* jenny: remember things have been shut down for a year. just because has been stagnant for a long time, doesn't mean it can't be revived.
* jake: ...
* yar: it's cool, but so many other foundational issues we're facing
* jenny: foundational issue taking up time and energy... towards the goal of floor.
* yar: want to do floor.
* jake: robot arm will help you do floor. it's an arm.
* yar: is it going to wear shoes while it.... brushes the epoxy
* jenny: ...
* yar: you're being ridiculuous. okay if jokes. but seriously... not helping epoxy the floor
* jenny: removing the robot arm not helping us either.
* yar: fine with putting 2x4s around it and epoxy around it. fine, but will need to orient it to not get in the way of the concrete grinding machines that we're going to use.
* jake: so you're saying you object to the robot arm's orientation?
* alex?: why wasn't the robot arm invited to the meeting?
* jenny: #rightsforrobots
* marc: because it's been breaking the rules not wearing a room and being in sudo room all this time.
* ...

more star trek talk. season 1... 2... rick berman...

* yar: who's going to set up this fundraiser?
* jenny: should probably start with a collaborative doc to get some language and images together... i can start that. if anyone's interested in making some video clips and collaborated... liberated lens... i can share with ... when people are in the space.
* marc: i'm also up to do some filming. have we agreed on rules for being sudo room? are we going to do the same thing CCL's doing?
* jenny: yes, there is a current thread for omni reopening policy on omni-discuss list. this is something we'll need to have a concrete proposal on. not sure if patrick is going to do it. but by and large following CCL's lead is a good plan. copy-paste them.
* marc: should do same thing as CCL - thing to read temperature at door, don't need to buy another one. check in sheet, so if someone tests COVID-19 positive, can see who was in the space at the same time as them. then people keep their distance.
* yar: hard to control access, because sudo room gets passed through, vs. CCL is off to the side.
* jenny: agenda item: doors and access system. we are supposedly implementing an actual door access system at the doorway to sudo/CCL. the door is there. panic bar(?) is installed. marc knows some things.
* alex: marc, jake, david keanon and i had exchanges.... hardware/software... sudo doors: hardware currently on the door to CCL. what to do about the door to the basement?
* marc: it's not a fire door is it?
* jenny; it's not a primary egress point but it is an egress point. there is a panic bar from the basement to sudo
** ?: there is? no
* jenny: well, there is already ... at other doors. don't think it's a necessary egress point.
* alex: access control to sudo/ccl door and leaving that one open...
* marc: no, not leaving open unless in the space
* jenny: lock is on the basement side... we can switch it out. not a great door. good for sneakily going from basement to sudo...
* yar: it's a bad door. for inspections, david keanon specifically instructed me to keep it closed and act like it's not there, like it's just a wall.
* alex: so we're planning to seal that door off?
* yar: i think it can be useful.
* jenny: i use it all the time
* yar: ... i was ... in the basement ... kept going to sudo room to get parts. but if not ones in sudo room, it should be locked.
* alex: from sudo room's side
* yar: yes.
* yar: basement is meant to be common space
** jenny: lock may need to be switched to the sudo room side. i'm pretty sure it is on the basement side.

* jake: ... did we finish what to do about asking omni to give credit for work already done? does anything need to be done to make that happen?
* yar: i think we should come to a solid proposal to lift it. at next week's delegate's meeting, i'll float the idea, and see what the response is
** alex: good idea
* jake: before, i'll ask keanon to look through at the 3-4 things we've done, and be willing to look at this and say it's true they fixed the 3 or 4 boxes or whatever.
* yar: like whatever ... would have done.
* jake: to say sudo room would like to be compensated for the work ... as follows.
* yar: it think david keanon is a better person to do it, vs. a licensed electrician...
* jenny; technically i think david is still a sudo room member, so some bias there. but he joined every collective... in 2014.

jenny: should we bring up the NOMA N? Mutual Aid proposal?
* yar: so i can do something other than abstain at omni meetings
* yar: if anyone wants to be delegate, i'm ready to be replaced... for years
* jenny: we have a delegates mailing list. so whenever sudo room consenses on a delegate, we can coordinate on who reps sudo room at any given delegates meeting. those are twice a month. i can't... yar's sudo room delegate. i'm sudo room board member? if anyone wants to be board members... but delegate's more important.
* yar: ... which i've been bad about... doing too many things.
* jake: thank you for doing those things.
** thank you!
* marc: i think i'm on the allowed list for sudo/ccl(?)
* jenny: i could do mesh if you want to do sudo for a bit. or jake. or alex or ?
* ?: doesn't need to just be one person. ccl has two, and they trade off. just need to coordinate between each other.
* jenny: or if we start having these sudo room meetings on the regular, we can decide a day before the omni meetings who should rep sudo room in the delegates.

* jake: what do i do with the $5K of bitcoin?
* bitcoins are being transferred.
* marc: i'm not best person, because places to buy/sell like to have IDs, which i don't have, as a non-citizen.

yar: i don't understand. we're transferring it to a wallet you set up jake?
* jake: yes. it's a wallet that a company controls.
*? what company?
* jake: coinbase.
* jake: when we decide to put funds into babylon.
** eventually our bank will take it...

cel mentions bitcoin forks and multisig.
* concerns about single person having access
** electrum wallet and its forks support multisig
*** BTC: https://electrum.org/
*** BCH: https://electroncash.org/
*** BSV: https://electrumsv.io/

* jenny thanks cel for taking notes & setting up mtg & knowing things about cryptocurrencies :D

* cel: probably should have separate wallets for the different bitcoin forks.

** jenny: i hereby nominate cel to role of security officer...
*** cel appreciates the suggestion...

== Events, Meetings, Network Bandwidth Issues ==

* juul: should we talk about events?
** Ongoing doc for reopening: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lINDe6awkBxiTrXc280A23OKCEp46iKTf2PegIX9Mgw/edit

* cel: should change meeting time?
** juul: think should, because overlapping with CCL. we could change the time, or the day.
** jenny: don't say tuesday, because that's sudo mesh
** marc: and hack night
* jenny: and thursday is omni... but if we did it earlier... omni meetings start at 7 (PST). maybe tuesdays are fine. traditionally we have sudo mesh at 8pm.
* marc: we could do tuesdays if people are up for it. or later on wednesdays. or earlier.
* yar: from experience at the commons wg, it was difficult to manage the bridge. especially if you're one of the people there physically. especially as omni's internet is slow.
* jenny: situation with that... can't get the fiber yet because they're not offering business connections.
* marc: we can't because it's more expensive...
* jake: drill down the floor to where they have the BART dark fiber
* marc: why slow? is it a problem with our ISP, or us?
* yar: just because the pipe we're paying for is not thick enough. i think throughput is the problem. we're paying for copper..
* marc: no, it's a VDSL... close to the cnter.... 30Mbits down, 20Mbits up.
* jenny: i think we recorded it as 20MBps up
** marc: we can just call them.
*** yar: i've always had issues trying to do any real-time application at omni

* jenny: maybe we could have an in-person meeting to investigate.
* yar: i think a meetup would be useful. one of the private networks went down last summer.. there are machines still inaccessible.
* jenny: i didn't see that.
* yar: on sysadmins list. think pipe is too little.
* jake: ... can't.
* ?: have meeting...
* marc: sunday?
* alex: should be a time convenient for whoever knows the infrastructure. probably marc and yar
* jenny: and daniel.
* yar: i don't want to be there on sundays, but i'm happy to call in. most of the information i can just give over the phone.
* alex: sunday should be okay for me. if you want to do that
* alex: what would be helpful would be a summary of things broken.
* yar: i can't send email to sudo-discuss. do we want sudo-sys? or should it just be put on sudo-discuss.
* jenny: ... either we could make a push to add more folks to the sysadmins list. or we could redirect the emails that come into it to sudo room or something. there are randos... i think it's still valuable to have a somewhat secure list... maybe something to add to sudo room out-of-hibernation tasks to try to pull more folks onto the list. but maybe 70% of people on that list are no longer involved.
* marc: IIRC it's about $300/month to get commercial fiber. i can check if the prices changed. i've been doing research on access points to replace the current ones. first ... working great. also ordered some the haven't arrived yet.
* alex: when i was at omni last, daniel mentioned someone had rack mount switches willing to donate. any use?
* marc: only use is if someone sells them to donate.
* jake: are they PoE powered, or generated PoE?
* alex: i think they generate PoE
* yar: but they consume power, put out heat...
* marc: we do need PoE routers... that's how we ... only have one left.
* alex: does someone want to contact daniel? i don't think anyone's going to sell them on ebay
* jake: craigslist! i'll do it
* alex: really? you should do it. totally.
* jenny: can i recruit you to help marc and i clear out this... good stuff

* jenny: only 8 people on the sysadmins list. 4 out of 8 are no longer involved with omni/sudo in any way whatsover. wow, a very useless sysadmins list. the only useful people on here are yar, marc, myself, and david keenan.
** To join: https://omnicommons.org/lists/listinfo/sysadmins/
* cel: thought was talking about sudo-sys list
* jenny: omni sysdmins list. should remove ... folks not involved. ... i'll send an email out.

* ... meeting time?
* cel: weekly or monthly
* let's do it weekly. 6pm. wednesday 6pm? previous reason was it takes time to get from work...
* jake: people don't want to work.

* cel asks about the mumble bridging attempt. should it be attempted again or not worth it?

* jenny: what are advantages to have a mumble bridge? low bandwidth situations... other reasons. a lot of people internationally use it. i do in my work.
* alex: web-based vs need for separate app. only reason to prefer it over mumble.

* yar: if traffic from mumble goes through sudo room, it will be more than our bandwidth. but if peer-to-peer...
* marc: mumble is extremely low bandwidth
* jake: i think we should give mumble more of a chance. appreciate cel's endorsement of it. some hesitation to use it because it's not a browser thing - but it could be worth it if it performs better. but don't think sudo room is best place for a server for it.
* jenny: i think it is the right place for a server for it. one of primary reasons to use something like mumble is if communication blocked by state gov, etc. having IP addresses associated with servers isn't a benefit... not really a use case for sudo room right now, but would be good to model. providing a multiplicity of things to connect to ... that don't rely on ip blocks by state goverments
* yar: going, bye
* cel: bandwidth limit?
* marc: think it's fine. we're going to upgrade to it the connection. i prefer mumble.

* carl's background... the cubatron.

* marc: it's a video bandwidth embiggenator.

* carl talks about how hayward techies are still having meetings.
* jenny suggests writing an upbraiding email to sudo-discuss

Meetings

2021-05-13T05:00:57Z

Cel: /* Archive */ 2021-05-12

[[File:Sudo Room Meeting April 17, 2013.jpg|thumb|right|April 2013 Meeting]]
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== Archive ==

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{| class="wikitable sortable collapsible"
! colspan="3"| Past Meeting Notes
|-
! data-sort-type="isoDate" | date
! class="unsortable" | new member interviews
! class="unsortable" | comments
|-
| [[Meeting Notes 2021-05-12|2021-05-12]]
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| Sudo Room decides to continue existing and stuff
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| [[Sudoroom_Meeting_2019_04_03|2019-04-03]]
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| discussion & consensus about GCEA proposals & paying Jenny for bookkeeping
|-
| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-04-11|2018-04-11]]
| Rich
| Steve banned, omni proposals mentioned but not discussed
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| [[Meeting_Notes_2018-03-14|2018-03-14]]
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IRC

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Cel: /* Recommended Clients */ Add HexChat, weechat, and link to comparison page on Wikipedia

NOTE: a lot of people think that you can get on IRC and talk to people right away. That only works if people are in the channel you want at that very moment, and paying attention to that screen on their computer.

The reality is that most conversations in IRC happen over hours or days, so the only way to fully experience a channel such as #sudoroom is to find a way to stay logged into IRC continuously. If you have a desktop computer that stays powered on and connected to the internet, this is easy. Otherwise, you need to connect to a computer that stays on (such as a server) and leave an IRC session running there, using "screen" or "tmux" as described below.

If you log into IRC and say Hello and nobody gets back you to you for an hour, that is totally normal. If you log out five minutes after asking a question, people will make fun of you an hour later when they look at their IRC sessions.

Internet Relay Chat (IRC) is an instant messaging service that has been used on the internet since the early 1990s. IRC is made possible by the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat Internet Relay Chat Protocol (IRCP)], an application layer protocol. The chat process works on a client/server networking model. IRC clients are computer programs that a user can install on their system. These clients communicate with chat servers to transfer messages to other clients. IRC is mainly designed for group communication in discussion forums, called channels, but also allows one-on-one communication via private messages as well as chat and data transfer, including file sharing.

Many [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messaging_protocols other instant messaging services] exist, however many services are proprietary and/or rely on a centralized platform. This does not appeal to organizations that wish to establish a channel of communication that can be adopted by users without fear of unwanted regulations by the service/platform provider. Although open source protocols such as [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XMPP XMPP (formerly Jabber)] exist, IRC continues to be used because it is lightweight and stable.

IRC consists of channels. Each channel is like a chat room, and is represented by a name that begins with '#' followed by a string that represents the primary topic of the channel. Examples: #html, #css, #javascript, #go-lang.

== Recommended Clients ==

There are many various IRC clients available for many platforms.

=== Graphical Clients ===

* Cross-platform
** [https://www.pidgin.im/download/ Pidgin]
** [https://hexchat.github.io/ HexChat]
* Mac OS X
** [https://adium.im/ Adium]

=== Command Line Interface Clients ===

These clients are intended to be used from the command line interface (CLI), also known as the "terminal".

* [https://weechat.org/ WeeChat] (also has remote graphical [https://weechat.org/about/interfaces/ interfaces])
* [https://irssi.org/ irssi]

=== More ===

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients Wikipedia: Comparison of Internet Relay Chat clients]

== Basics ==

For those that are new to IRC, itâ€™s a good idea to become familiar with the [http://www.ircbeginner.com/ircinfo/ircc-commands.html common commands] that IRC programs support. Here are a few:

{| class="wikitable"
! Command !! Example !! Description
|-
| /join #channel_name || /join #sudoroom ||Join a channel
|-
| /me <action> || /me waves hello || Announces some action
|-
| /msg <nickname> <message> || /msg juul Hey! I need some help || Send a direct message to another user
|-
| /ignore <nickname> || /ignore annoyingperson || Block someone that is harassing you
|-
|}

Although the above commands are likely to be supported by all IRC client programs, some only apply to specific clients. The following are supported by [https://irssi.org/ irssi]:

{| class="wikitable"
! Command !! Example !! Description
|-
| /help || /help || View documentation on supported commands
|-
| /help <command> || /help connect || View documentation on a specific supported command
|-
| /connect <server address> <port> || /connect irc.freenode.net 8001 || Connect to an IRC server
|-
| /set nick <nick> || /set nick someGuy2015 || Register your nickname with the IRC server/network
|-
| /set real_name <real name> || /set nick Bill Murray || Register your real name within the IRC server/network
|-
| /quit || /quit || Quits IRC program
|-
| /exit || /exit || Quits IRC program
|-
|}

See [https://irssi.org/documentation/ IRSSI Documentation] for more commands.

== FreeNode ==

Many programming/hacking communities establish a channel on the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freenode FreeNode IRC network] to facilitate discussions and provide support to members of their community.

=== Registering with FreeNode ===

The FreeNode IRC network allows you to register your nickname and associate it with your email address. This is done by using the following commands:

/msg nickserv REGISTER <password> <email>

You should receive a message informing you that you need to check your email account and obtain instructions to verify yourself.

To make sure that your email address isnâ€™t revealed to other users, use the following command to ensure that it is hidden.

/msg NickServ SET HIDEMAIL ON

You can verify your information with the NickServ by using:

/msg nickserv info

== Persistent CLI Client ==

This section is a guide to setting up a command line based IRC client on a persistently running machine so that it stays connected within a channel even when you are not connected to the machine via SSH. This results in the ability to reconnect and view the messages in the channel that occurred even when you were not connected.

These instructions assume you are using an Ubuntu machine, and will be using the [https://irssi.org/ irssi] client.

=== Client Machine ===

You can setup a system at home and configure your home network device(s) to make that machine available via the internet, or alternatively gain shell access to a server on the internet. There are services that provide free or paid shell access, with features and support for IRC that varies. Some of these services even provide support for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC_bot IRC bots]. Alternatively you can pay for a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_private_server Virtual Private Server (VPS)] for as low as $5 a month through services such as [digitalocean.com DigitalOcean], thus providing you with an entire UNIX-like server environment that you can use as you wish.

=== Install Client ===

Install the irssi client using the following command:

apt-get install irssi

After itâ€™s done installing, simply run the program

irssi

=== Configure ===

There is a configuration file in ~/.irssi/config that you can inspect, but you can use commands from within the program to configure IRSSI to automatically perform when you first open the program.

The following commands will configure IRSSI to connect to the Freenode network with an SSL connection, with automatic joining of the #sudoroom channel.

/network add Freenode
/server add -auto -ssl -ssl_verify -ssl_capath /etc/ssl/certs -network Freenode irc.freenode.net 7000
/channel add -auto #sudoroom Freenode
/save

After youâ€™ve successfully registered your FreeNode nick name, you can run this command to configure IRSSI to login automatically after connecting to FreeNode.

/network add -autosendcmd "/msg nickserv identify <password> ;wait 2000" Freenode

=== Windows ===

irssi support separate "windows" for the different channels you are connected to, or for the different people you are chatting with. If for some reason you do not see information on the screen for a command youâ€™ve run, it may be displayed in another window.

An Ubuntu terminal can use the ALT key combined with a number key (e.g. ALT+1, ALT+2, ALT+3, etc) to switch between the different displays in IRSSI. This will not work via SSH however, so you will need to use the /window command instead.

/WINDOW NEW - Create new split window
/WINDOW NEW HIDE - Create new hidden window
/WINDOW CLOSE - Close split or hidden window

/WINDOW HIDE [<number>|<name>] - Make the split window hidden window
/WINDOW SHOW <number>|<name> - Make the hidden window a split window

/WINDOW SHRINK [<lines>] - Shrink the split window
/WINDOW GROW [<lines>] - Grow the split window
/WINDOW BALANCE - Balance the sizes of all split windows

=== Managing Process ===

You can use [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen GNU screen] or [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tmux tmux] to maintain a terminal session that will persist even after you disconnect from the SSH session on your client machine.

For example, you can run 'screen' to start a screen session. Once the session is started, run any program you wish. To disconnect from the session press CTRL-A, followed by D key. You can then safely disconnect from your SSH session. When you return, use `screen -r` to reconnect.

See [http://carina.org.uk/screenirssi.shtml How to use screen and irssi] and [https://michael.lustfield.net/linux/irssi-using-screen-and-ssh IRSSI Using Screen and SSH]

Talk:Space Server

2020-10-28T19:48:18Z

Cel: Talk page autocreated when first thread was posted

Thread:Talk:Space Server/Merge

2020-10-28T19:48:18Z

Cel: New thread: Merge

== Merger proposal ==
I propose to merge [[Space Server]] into [[Space.local]]. From what I can tell, the pages appear to be about the same server. Although they have different inventory aliases ([[O:3]] and [[O:15]]), so maybe I don't know the whole story.

Merging pages can be done at [[Special:MergeHistory]]. More info: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Merge_history

Space Server

2020-10-28T19:13:10Z

Cel: Note offline

The space server.

Offline as of 2020-10-28, due to a network issue.

= Services =

*SSH on port 60643
:Talk to [[User:Juul|Juul]] ([[User talk:Juul|talk]]) if you want access.
*[[File server|File server access via SFTP on port 60643]]
*[[Secure Scuttlebutt]] on port 8008
*[[Secure_Scuttlebutt#How_to_post_to_SSB_as_@sudoer|patchfoo]] on http://localhost:8027/

Space.local

2020-10-11T20:12:58Z

Cel: is offline and not a gateway

This is the sudo room shell server and former [[Network]] gateway. It is located in the sudo room server "room". As of 2020-10-11, it is offline due to a network issue.

*External hostname: room.sudoroom.org
*Internal hostname (mDNS): meshbuild.local
*Internal IP (static): 192.168.42.1
*ssh port: 60643

It's a Dell SC1425 with:

*Dual 2.8 Ghz Xeon dual-core processors
*6 GB ram
*750 GB harddrive.

It runs the following services:

= iptables =

iptables handles port forwarding and masquerading (NAT). The configuration file is:

/etc/iptables.rules

To change this, use normal iptables commands to modify the iptables configuration and save it using:

sudo iptables-save > /etc/iptables.rules

= dnsmasq =

dnsmasq handles DNS only. It has some entries for the .sudo domain, such as stuff.sudo in the config file:

/etc/dnsmasq.conf

Look for the line:

address=/stuff.sudo/192.168.42.1

= dhcpd =

dhcpd is our dhcp server. The config file is:

/etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf

= web server =

nginx is the web server and reverse proxy. It has a few virtual hosts. They are defined in:

/etc/nginx/sites-available

with symlinks in:

/etc/nginx/sites-enabled

and files served from:

/var/www/<virtual-host-name>

== default (e.g: http://room.sudoroom.org) ==

The only thing currently on here is http://room.sudoroom.org/wakemesh.php which lets people remotely boot the sudo mesh build server.

== stuff.sudo (internal only) ==

Our inventory tracking and labelling system. It prints labels on the Brother QL-570 thermal label printer located next to the Type A Machines 3D printer.

nginx is only reverse-proxying to the labitrack software. The labitrack software is started by:

/etc/init/labitrack.conf

Labitrack is located in:

/opt/labitrack

Labitrack runs on port 8080 and saves its data in a postgresql database. Labitrack has two parts to it: The web app itself and printloop.sh which automatically prints newly created labels on the label printer. Both the web app and printloop.sh are run by the node.js program "forever" which monitors the programs and restarts them automatically if they crash.

The documentation and source code for labitrack is here: https://github.com/sudoroom/labitrack

= postgresql =

Used by labitrack.

= Backup =

WE HAVE NO AUTOMATIC BACKUP OF THIS SERVER. PLEASE FIX!

Secure Scuttlebutt

2020-10-11T20:01:39Z

Cel: /* @sudoer */ is offline due to a network issue

Secure Scuttlebutt (SSB) is a peer-to-peer social network platform.

== @sudoer ==

On the [[Space Server|space.local]] server, there is an installation of [https://github.com/ssbc/ssb-server ssb-server] hosting a SSB node, with name "sudoer". It auto-follows SSB peers that it discovers on the local network, using [https://github.com/dangerousbeans/ssb-clingy ssb-clingy]. Since visibility on the network depends on having followers, this means people can join the main SSB network just by running SSB while being present on Sudo Room's [[Network]] and running SSB. @sudoer is also running [https://git.scuttlebot.io/%25hg8wG6xCDKVWoPYCS84HY7Adrd6JEUYoM23%2BGwn24I4%3D.sha256 patchfoo], a web-based SSB UI. Sudo Room [[Membership|Members]] can access this UI to post to @sudoer's SSB feed or view the SSB network from its perspective.

Introduction on mailing list: https://sudoroom.org/lists/private/sudo-discuss/2019-August/015209.html

=== Downtime ===

As of 2020-10-11, @sudoer and [[space.local]] are offline, due to a network issue at the Omni.
Reference: https://sudoroom.org/lists/private/sudo-sys/2020-October/000699.html

=== How to join SSB via Sudo Room ===

* Go to Sudo Room and connect to the [[Network]].
* Download, install, and run an SSB app, like [http://dinosaur.is/patchwork-downloader/ Patchwork], [https://github.com/ssbc/patchbay/releases/latest Patchbay], or [https://www.manyver.se/ Manyverse].
* Find @sudoer in your SSB app's list of peers. Follow it. Check that it followed you.
* Subscribe to the <code>#sudoroom</code> channel/hash-tag.
* Write a post introducing yourself.
* Follow people you know.
* Remember to check your SSB periodically, because it won't notify you by email or phone or anything if someone mentions you or sends you a private message on the network.

=== How to post to SSB as @sudoer ===

* SSH to [[space.local]] with command-line option <code>-L 8027:localhost:8027</code>
* Go to http://localhost:8027/ in your local web browser
* Click "compose" and write your message.
* Click "Preview". Then click "Publish".

== SSB ids associated with Sudo Room ==

{| class="wikitable blue_lines"
!ID
!Name
!Location
!Set up by
|-
|@U0uq5om3k51u4Eokk0CLYOE61cWSyY9Ex6zNj4lhTLE=.ed25519
|@sudoer
|[[Space Server|space.local]]
|[[User:Cel|cel]]
|}

{| class="wikitable blue_lines"
|+ Inactive SSB ids
!ID
!Name
!Last operated by
|-
|@qtoz1F39isKO79Hv1WUPWUCAxzAwdJl/YaUe83eKZxo=.ed25519
|@room.sudoroom.org
|[[User:Jefdaj|jefdaj]]
|-
|@MRy3wgduLcDLVgRyOkfOKb5BMnz1rAQ3EKsWG7OyNlg=.ed25519
|@pubtest1
|[[User:Jefdaj|jefdaj]]
|}

=== More info ===
* [https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ scuttlebutt.nz]

Mumble

2020-04-14T13:21:51Z

Cel: Create Mumble page

Mumble is a audio group chat / VoIP application. It is designed for gaming communities but is also useful generally for calls, meetings, hangouts, etc. It uses a client-server architecture with encrypted connections. There are client applications available for Linux, Mac, Windows, iOS, and Android.

= Sudo Room Mumble Server =

Sudo Room has a Mumble server. You can connect to it at address <code>room.sudoroom.org</code> and the default port (<code>64738</code>). The server runs [https://umurmur.net/ uMurmur] and is hosted on the <code>saros</code> machine. This was set up by [[User:Cel|cel]].

== Channels ==

A Mumble server can have multiple channels. If you are on the server for a specific call, you may want to make a new channel separate from the main (root) channel. In the desktop Mumble client, you can create a temporary channel by choosing "Addâ€¦" from the "Channel" menu, then type a name and and optional description, check the "Temporary" box and press OK. Other people can join the channel by double-clicking it or dragging their name onto it. When everyone leaves the temporary channel, it disappears.

== Audio settings ==

When you first start Mumble, you should use the Audio Wizard to configure your audio. To reduce feedback (echo), every participant should either use Push-to-talk mode, use a headset/headphones, or enable Echo cancellation in the settings. If you have a scheduled call and have not used Mumble before, it may be helpful to connect early to make sure your audio works.

= More info =
* [https://www.mumble.info/downloads Download Mumble]
* [https://www.mumble.info/ Mumble.info]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mumble_(software) Wikipedia]

Infrastructure

2020-04-11T18:59:25Z

Cel: Add Mumble

= Physical space =

*[[Door Access|Access]]
*[[Audio]]
*[[Biology]] - Beer, Cheese, Kombucha, etc.
*[[File server]]
*[[Inventory]]
*[[Network]]
*[[Recycling and re-use]]

= Virtual space =

*[[IRC]]
*[[Mailing lists]]
*[[Sudo API]]
*[[Website]]
*[[Wiki]]
*[[Secure Scuttlebutt]]
*[[Mumble]]

Space Server

2019-09-01T01:10:56Z

Cel: Remove services that are no more. Update SSH/SFTP port. Add Secure Scuttlebutt and patchfoo.

The space server.

= Services =

*SSH on port 60643
:Talk to [[User:Juul|Juul]] ([[User talk:Juul|talk]]) if you want access.
*[[File server|File server access via SFTP on port 60643]]
*[[Secure Scuttlebutt]] on port 8008
*[[Secure_Scuttlebutt#How_to_post_to_SSB_as_@sudoer|patchfoo]] on http://localhost:8027/

Secure Scuttlebutt

2019-08-31T19:26:57Z

Cel: Create page. Document @sudoer and other ids. Give instructions for joining the network and for accessing @sudoer' patchfoo.

Secure Scuttlebutt (SSB) is a peer-to-peer social network platform.

== @sudoer ==

On the [[Space Server|space.local]] server, there is an installation of [https://github.com/ssbc/ssb-server ssb-server] hosting a SSB node, with name "sudoer". It auto-follows SSB peers that it discovers on the local network, using [https://github.com/dangerousbeans/ssb-clingy ssb-clingy]. Since visibility on the network depends on having followers, this means people can join the main SSB network just by running SSB while being present on Sudo Room's [[Network]] and running SSB. @sudoer is also running [https://git.scuttlebot.io/%25hg8wG6xCDKVWoPYCS84HY7Adrd6JEUYoM23%2BGwn24I4%3D.sha256 patchfoo], a web-based SSB UI. Sudo Room [[Membership|Members]] can access this UI to post to @sudoer's SSB feed or view the SSB network from its perspective.

Introduction on mailing list: https://sudoroom.org/lists/private/sudo-discuss/2019-August/015209.html

=== How to join SSB via Sudo Room ===

* Go to Sudo Room and connect to the [[Network]].
* Download, install, and run an SSB app, like [http://dinosaur.is/patchwork-downloader/ Patchwork], [https://github.com/ssbc/patchbay/releases/latest Patchbay], or [https://www.manyver.se/ Manyverse].
* Find @sudoer in your SSB app's list of peers. Follow it. Check that it followed you.
* Subscribe to the <code>#sudoroom</code> channel/hash-tag.
* Write a post introducing yourself.
* Follow people you know.
* Remember to check your SSB periodically, because it won't notify you by email or phone or anything if someone mentions you or sends you a private message on the network.

=== How to post to SSB as @sudoer ===

* SSH to [[space.local]] with command-line option <code>-L 8027:localhost:8027</code>
* Go to http://localhost:8027/ in your local web browser
* Click "compose" and write your message.
* Click "Preview". Then click "Publish".

== SSB ids associated with Sudo Room ==

{| class="wikitable blue_lines"
!ID
!Name
!Location
!Set up by
|-
|@U0uq5om3k51u4Eokk0CLYOE61cWSyY9Ex6zNj4lhTLE=.ed25519
|@sudoer
|[[Space Server|space.local]]
|[[User:Cel|cel]]
|}

{| class="wikitable blue_lines"
|+ Inactive SSB ids
!ID
!Name
!Last operated by
|-
|@qtoz1F39isKO79Hv1WUPWUCAxzAwdJl/YaUe83eKZxo=.ed25519
|@room.sudoroom.org
|[[User:Jefdaj|jefdaj]]
|-
|@MRy3wgduLcDLVgRyOkfOKb5BMnz1rAQ3EKsWG7OyNlg=.ed25519
|@pubtest1
|[[User:Jefdaj|jefdaj]]
|}

=== More info ===
* [https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ scuttlebutt.nz]

User:Cel

2019-08-31T18:10:24Z

Cel: Create page; link to humans site and SSB id

https://sudoroom.org/humans/~cel

<code>@f/6sQ6d2CMxRUhLpspgGIulDxDCwYD7DzFzPNr7u5AU=.ed25519</code>

Infrastructure

2019-08-31T17:56:15Z

Cel: Virtual space: add Secure Scuttlebutt