2013-11-06 SELC Meeting - Revision history

Bleeblahblue at 04:35, 9 November 2013

2013-11-09T04:35:16Z

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	**We could show that we provide community economic development (a "launching pad").		**We could show that we provide community economic development (a "launching pad").
	**Colearning sessions such as our weekly meetups may not be able to qualify as "educational" because they would be seen as providing benefit to members and not the general public. This might just be a matter of how we frame it. Did I get this right, Juul?		**Colearning sessions such as our weekly meetups may not be able to qualify as "educational" because they would be seen as providing benefit to members and not the general public. This might just be a matter of how we frame it. Did I get this right, Juul?
	*We may want to look into a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29#501.28c.29.284.29 501c4] (Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees), [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_society 501c8] (Benefit/Mutual Aid Society) and 501c10 (Domestic Fraternal Societies and Associations).		We may want to look into a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29#501.28c.29.284.29 501c4] (Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees), [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_society 501c8] (Benefit/Mutual Aid Society) and 501c10* (Domestic Fraternal Societies and Associations). *(''Eddan could possibly speak more on these'')

	==METACORPORATION!!!==		==METACORPORATION!!!==

Bleeblahblue at 04:33, 9 November 2013

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	**We could show that we provide community economic development (a "launching pad").		**We could show that we provide community economic development (a "launching pad").
	**Colearning sessions such as our weekly meetups may not be able to qualify as "educational" because they would be seen as providing benefit to members and not the general public. This might just be a matter of how we frame it. Did I get this right, Juul?		**Colearning sessions such as our weekly meetups may not be able to qualify as "educational" because they would be seen as providing benefit to members and not the general public. This might just be a matter of how we frame it. Did I get this right, Juul?
	*We may want to look into a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29#501.28c.29.284.29 501c4] (Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees), ~~501c8 (~~[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_society Benefit/Mutual Aid Society] and 501c10 (Domestic Fraternal Societies and Associations).		*We may want to look into a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29#501.28c.29.284.29 501c4] (Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees), [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_society 501c8] (Benefit/Mutual Aid Society) and 501c10 (Domestic Fraternal Societies and Associations).

	==METACORPORATION!!!==		==METACORPORATION!!!==
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	==Recommended research==		==Recommended research==
	*Non-profit/for-profit joint ventures:		*Non-profit/for-profit joint ventures:
	*Read the Board of Equalization's publication on welfare property tax exemption (one of the SELC people is in the process of looking up the name of the resource for us).		*Read [name of publication] by the Board of Equalization's publication on welfare property tax exemption (one of the SELC people is in the process of looking up the name of the resource for us).

Bleeblahblue at 04:29, 9 November 2013

2013-11-09T04:29:36Z

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	On November 6, 2013, a few Sudoers met up with the [http://theselc.org/cafe Sustainable Economies Law Center] at [http://oaklandmakerspace.wordpress.com/ LOL] with some legal questions regarding Incorporation, Board, and creating a "Metacorporation" with other legal entities with the purpose of co-owning a building. Below is a summary of some things we learned..		On November 6, 2013, a few Sudoers met up with the [http://theselc.org/cafe Sustainable Economies Law Center] at [http://oaklandmakerspace.wordpress.com/ LOL] with some legal questions regarding Incorporation, Board, and creating a "Metacorporation" with other legal entities with the purpose of co-owning a building. Below is a summary of some things we learned..

	==Incorporation==		==Incorporation/Board==
	''How best could we try to maintain a distributed power structure given the innate hierarchy of a 501c*?''		''How best could we try to maintain a distributed power structure given the innate hierarchy of a 501c*?''
	*The SELC is a 501c3 who had the same question. Part of how they try to distribute power is by practicing a '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy Holacracy]''' (Wikipedia), whereby tasks and responsibilities are distributed between different self-organized working groups. We could research this and codify it into our corporation's bylaws.		*The SELC is a 501c3 who had the same question. Part of how they try to distribute power is by practicing a '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy Holacracy]''' (Wikipedia), whereby tasks and responsibilities are distributed between different self-organized working groups. We could research this and codify it into our corporation's bylaws.
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	''501c...WHICH?''		''501c...WHICH?''
	**A 501c3 is a good option, but only if we can explicitly prove that we serve a charitable or educational purpose.		*A 501c3 is a good option, but only if we can explicitly prove that we serve a charitable or educational purpose.
	**We may want to look into a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29#501.28c.29.284.29 501c4] (Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees), 501c8 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_society Benefit/Mutual Aid Society] and 501c10 (Domestic Fraternal Societies and Associations).		**We could show that we provide community economic development (a "launching pad").
			**Colearning sessions such as our weekly meetups may not be able to qualify as "educational" because they would be seen as providing benefit to members and not the general public. This might just be a matter of how we frame it. Did I get this right, Juul?
			*We may want to look into a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29#501.28c.29.284.29 501c4] (Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees), 501c8 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_society Benefit/Mutual Aid Society] and 501c10 (Domestic Fraternal Societies and Associations).

	~~==Board==~~		==METACORPORATION!!!==
			*As a 501c3 or LLC, we could apply for ''welfare expemption'' and not have to pay property taxes.
	==METACORPORATION!!! ~~zomgz~~==		**''Example: The David Brower Center as a whole is able to qualify for a welfare exemption because a certain percentage of their renters are 501c3s. In other words, we could include other corporate entities in the shared building and qualify for a welfare exemption if we meet the baseline percentage (which was...?)''
	*As a 501c3 or LLC, we could apply for ''welfare ~~expemtion~~'' and not have to pay property taxes.

	==Recommended research==		==Recommended research==
	*Non-profit/for-profit joint ventures:		*Non-profit/for-profit joint ventures:
	*Read		*Read the Board of Equalization's publication on welfare property tax exemption (one of the SELC people is in the process of looking up the name of the resource for us).

Bleeblahblue: /* Incorporation */

2013-11-09T04:20:27Z

Incorporation

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	''How best could we try to maintain a distributed power structure given the innate hierarchy of a 501c*?''		''How best could we try to maintain a distributed power structure given the innate hierarchy of a 501c*?''
	*The SELC is a 501c3 who had the same question. Part of how they try to distribute power is by practicing a '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy Holacracy]''' (Wikipedia), whereby tasks and responsibilities are distributed between different self-organized working groups. We could research this and codify it into our corporation's bylaws.		*The SELC is a 501c3 who had the same question. Part of how they try to distribute power is by practicing a '''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holacracy Holacracy]''' (Wikipedia), whereby tasks and responsibilities are distributed between different self-organized working groups. We could research this and codify it into our corporation's bylaws.
			*Form a non-profit cooperative? (we didn't get to talk about this, but it was mentioned)

			''501c...WHICH?''
	''~~Which corporate structure?''~~
	*501c...WHICH?
	**A 501c3 is a good option, but only if we can explicitly prove that we serve a charitable or educational purpose.		**A 501c3 is a good option, but only if we can explicitly prove that we serve a charitable or educational purpose.
	**We may want to look into a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29#501.28c.29.284.29 501c4] (Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees), 501c8 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_society Benefit/Mutual Aid Society] and 501c10 (Domestic Fraternal Societies and Associations).		**We may want to look into a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501%28c%29#501.28c.29.284.29 501c4] (Civic Leagues, Social Welfare Organizations, and Local Associations of Employees), 501c8 ([https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benefit_society Benefit/Mutual Aid Society] and 501c10 (Domestic Fraternal Societies and Associations).
	*Non-profit cooperative? (we didn't get to talk about this, but it was mentioned)

	==Board==		==Board==

Bleeblahblue: some notes...more to come!

2013-11-09T04:19:45Z

some notes...more to come!

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 ==Incorporation==
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 ==METACORPORATION!!! zomgz==

Bleeblahblue: links

2013-11-09T02:01:51Z

links

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	On November 6, 2013, a few Sudoers met up with the Sustainable Economies Law Center at LOL with some legal questions regarding ~~incorporation~~, Board, and creating a "~~metacorporation~~" with other entities ~~for~~ the co-~~ownership of~~ a building. Below is a summary of some things we learned..		On November 6, 2013, a few Sudoers met up with the [http://theselc.org/cafe Sustainable Economies Law Center] at [http://oaklandmakerspace.wordpress.com/ LOL] with some legal questions regarding Incorporation, Board, and creating a "Metacorporation" with other legal entities with the purpose of co-owning a building. Below is a summary of some things we learned..

	==Incorporation==		==Incorporation==
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	==Board==		==Board==

	==METACORPORATION!!! ~~zomg~~==		==METACORPORATION!!! zomgz==

Bleeblahblue: setting this up!

2013-11-09T02:00:08Z

setting this up!

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On November 6, 2013, a few Sudoers met up with the Sustainable Economies Law Center at LOL with some legal questions regarding incorporation, Board, and creating a "metacorporation" with other entities for the co-ownership of a building. Below is a summary of some things we learned..

==Incorporation==

==Board==

==METACORPORATION!!! zomg==