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Jerkey at 22:49, 18 May 2020

2020-05-18T22:49:08Z

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	*[http://www.hackvana.com/store/ Hackvana]		*[http://www.hackvana.com/store/ Hackvana]
	~~hackvana~~ has an IRC channel on freenode, #hackvana where you can talk with others for advice~~, including Mitch Davis who runs the company~~, and ~~ask about your order. Jerkey has used them with satisfaction. They are friendly with KiCAD,~~ the ~~best FOSS circuit CAD project. They prefer Paypal, or someone in Australia who can pay in person.~~		CLOSED but still has an IRC channel on freenode, #hackvana where you can talk with others for advice, and the website recommends other vendors
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	*http://e-teknet.com/		*http://e-teknet.com/

Jerkey: jerkey updated elecrow review

2019-05-09T21:28:59Z

jerkey updated elecrow review

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	*[http://www.elecrow.com/ Elecrow]		*[http://www.elecrow.com/ Elecrow]

	Jerkey used Elecrow ~~once~~ and ~~they fucked up~~ the ~~order~~, ~~sent boards of~~ the ~~wrong thickness~~, ~~and at least 2 out~~ of ~~15 boards were defective. If this weren't enough, they have a~~ "~~new~~" ~~and~~ "~~old~~" ~~website and they can't decide which one you should use~~, ~~neither site uses TLS~~, ~~and they're both horrible~~, and ~~they reject your credit card even if it's fine~~. ~~Then send emails saying your order is on its way, even though it's been rejected,~~ and ~~weeks later you ask WTF and they~~'~~re like "oops"~~		Jerkey used Elecrow in 2019 and the reslut was great. I ordered "ten" boards, then in the checkout isle, i changed the quantity (of orders of "ten") from "1" to "2", then ordered the same "ten" boards in a different color, changed the quantity again, repeat, and ended up with 100 boards in five colors for like $50. Including rushed 3-day shipping (the cheapest option for some reason) brought the total for 100 boards to under US$100 and the boards look great (haven't tested them yet)

	~~Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW.~~

	Rab ordered [https://www.elecrow.com/pcb-manufacturing.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] ten times over 2015 to 2019. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 1-4 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline milling; silkscreen faded or smudged. Shenzhen DHL shipping was 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received (multiple orders). With Registered Airmail, 21 calendar day turnaround (multiple orders). NOTE: Elecrow accidentally shipped one order via Registered Airmail, rather than Shenzhen DHL as requested. When contacted, Elecrow apologized and immediately refunded the difference in shipping charges. New website is operational and works fine.		Rab ordered [https://www.elecrow.com/pcb-manufacturing.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] ten times over 2015 to 2019. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 1-4 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline milling; silkscreen faded or smudged. Shenzhen DHL shipping was 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received (multiple orders). With Registered Airmail, 21 calendar day turnaround (multiple orders). NOTE: Elecrow accidentally shipped one order via Registered Airmail, rather than Shenzhen DHL as requested. When contacted, Elecrow apologized and immediately refunded the difference in shipping charges. New website is operational and works fine.

Rab: Updated details of Elecrow experience.

2019-05-09T20:21:12Z

Updated details of Elecrow experience.

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	Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW.		Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW.

	Rab ordered [https://www.elecrow.com/pcb-manufacturing.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] ~~seven~~ times over 2015 to ~~2018~~. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 1-4 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline milling; silkscreen faded or smudged. ~~With~~ Shenzhen DHL shipping ~~(~$20 extra),~~ 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received. ~~HOWEVER~~: one order ~~was shipped~~ via Registered Airmail rather than DHL as requested~~, resulting in total turnaround of 3 weeks~~. When contacted, Elecrow apologized and immediately refunded the difference in shipping charges. New website is operational and works fine.		Rab ordered [https://www.elecrow.com/pcb-manufacturing.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] ten times over 2015 to 2019. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 1-4 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline milling; silkscreen faded or smudged. Shenzhen DHL shipping was 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received (multiple orders). With Registered Airmail, 21 calendar day turnaround (multiple orders). NOTE: Elecrow accidentally shipped one order via Registered Airmail, rather than Shenzhen DHL as requested. When contacted, Elecrow apologized and immediately refunded the difference in shipping charges. New website is operational and works fine.

	Rab recommends careful review of order confirmation email. Also, Chinese New Year delaying February orders is a real phenomenon.		Rab recommends careful review of order confirmation email. Also, Chinese New Year delaying February orders is a real phenomenon.

Rab: Updated details of Elecrow and OSH Park experience.

2018-05-25T17:15:31Z

Updated details of Elecrow and OSH Park experience.

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	Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW.		Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW.

	Rab ordered [~~http~~://www.elecrow.com/~~10pcs-2-layer-~~pcb-~~p-1175~~.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] ~~four~~ times. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 2-3 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline milling; silkscreen faded or smudged. With Shenzhen DHL shipping (~$20 extra), 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received. HOWEVER: ~~most recent~~ order was shipped via Registered Airmail rather than DHL as requested, resulting in total turnaround of 3 weeks. When contacted, Elecrow apologized and immediately refunded the difference in shipping charges. New website is operational and works fine.		Rab ordered [https://www.elecrow.com/pcb-manufacturing.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] seven times over 2015 to 2018. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 1-4 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline milling; silkscreen faded or smudged. With Shenzhen DHL shipping (~$20 extra), 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received. HOWEVER: one order was shipped via Registered Airmail rather than DHL as requested, resulting in total turnaround of 3 weeks. When contacted, Elecrow apologized and immediately refunded the difference in shipping charges. New website is operational and works fine.

	Rab recommends careful review of order confirmation email.		Rab recommends careful review of order confirmation email. Also, Chinese New Year delaying February orders is a real phenomenon.
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	*[https://oshpark.com/ OSH Park]		*[https://oshpark.com/ OSH Park]

	Rab abused their job preview function and noticed that it doesn't appear to display tented vias properly. (Renders as untented). Better check your gerbers with [http://gerbv.geda-project.org/ gerbv].		Rab abused their job preview function and noticed that it doesn't appear to display tented vias properly. (Renders as untented). Better check your gerbers with [http://gerbv.geda-project.org/ gerbv]. Two of two orders placed had faster turnaround than expected. Good quality, a cheap option for tiny boards.
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	*[http://dirtypcbs.com/ dirtypcbs.com]		*[http://dirtypcbs.com/ dirtypcbs.com]

Rab at 16:51, 5 April 2017

2017-04-05T16:51:05Z

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	Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW.		Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW.

	Rab ordered [http://www.elecrow.com/10pcs-2-layer-pcb-p-1175.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] four times. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 2-3 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline ~~routing~~; silkscreen faded or smudged. With Shenzhen DHL shipping (~$20 extra), 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received. HOWEVER: most recent order was shipped via Registered Airmail rather than DHL as requested, resulting in total turnaround of 3 weeks. When contacted, Elecrow apologized and immediately refunded the difference in shipping charges. New website is operational and works fine.		Rab ordered [http://www.elecrow.com/10pcs-2-layer-pcb-p-1175.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] four times. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 2-3 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline milling; silkscreen faded or smudged. With Shenzhen DHL shipping (~$20 extra), 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received. HOWEVER: most recent order was shipped via Registered Airmail rather than DHL as requested, resulting in total turnaround of 3 weeks. When contacted, Elecrow apologized and immediately refunded the difference in shipping charges. New website is operational and works fine.

	Rab recommends careful review of order confirmation email.		Rab recommends careful review of order confirmation email.

Rab: Updated details of Elecrow experience.

2017-04-05T16:50:24Z

Updated details of Elecrow experience.

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	Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW.		Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW.

	Rab ordered [http://www.elecrow.com/10pcs-2-layer-pcb-p-1175.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] ~~three~~ times. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 2-3 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline routing; silkscreen faded or smudged. With Shenzhen DHL shipping (~$20 extra), 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received. New~~/old~~ website ~~setup dichotomy~~ is ~~confusing~~. ~~Have not used the new website~~.		Rab ordered [http://www.elecrow.com/10pcs-2-layer-pcb-p-1175.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] four times. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 2-3 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline routing; silkscreen faded or smudged. With Shenzhen DHL shipping (~$20 extra), 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received. HOWEVER: most recent order was shipped via Registered Airmail rather than DHL as requested, resulting in total turnaround of 3 weeks. When contacted, Elecrow apologized and immediately refunded the difference in shipping charges. New website is operational and works fine.

			Rab recommends careful review of order confirmation email.
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	*[https://oshpark.com/ OSH Park]		*[https://oshpark.com/ OSH Park]

Jerkey: jerkey is a jerk, go figure. add PCBWay.com

2016-08-22T21:38:16Z

jerkey is a jerk, go figure. add PCBWay.com

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	*[http://www.elecrow.com/ Elecrow]		*[http://www.elecrow.com/ Elecrow]
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	Jerkey used Elecrow once and they fucked up the order, sent boards of the wrong thickness, and at least 2 out of 15 boards were defective. If this weren't enough, they have a "new" and "old" website and they can't decide which one you should use, neither site uses TLS, and they're both horrible, and they reject your credit card even if it's fine. Then send emails saying your order is on its way, even though it's been rejected, and weeks later you ask WTF and they're like "oops"		Jerkey used Elecrow once and they fucked up the order, sent boards of the wrong thickness, and at least 2 out of 15 boards were defective. If this weren't enough, they have a "new" and "old" website and they can't decide which one you should use, neither site uses TLS, and they're both horrible, and they reject your credit card even if it's fine. Then send emails saying your order is on its way, even though it's been rejected, and weeks later you ask WTF and they're like "oops"

	Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW~~. Rab only recommends them because he enjoys being contrary to Jerkey~~.		Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW.

	Rab ordered [http://www.elecrow.com/10pcs-2-layer-pcb-p-1175.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] three times. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 2-3 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline routing; silkscreen faded or smudged. With Shenzhen DHL shipping (~$20 extra), 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received. New/old website setup dichotomy is confusing. Have not used the new website.		Rab ordered [http://www.elecrow.com/10pcs-2-layer-pcb-p-1175.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] three times. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 2-3 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline routing; silkscreen faded or smudged. With Shenzhen DHL shipping (~$20 extra), 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received. New/old website setup dichotomy is confusing. Have not used the new website.

Jerkey at 20:11, 22 August 2016

2016-08-22T20:11:55Z

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	*[http://www.hackvana.com/store/ Hackvana]		*[http://www.hackvana.com/store/ Hackvana]
	hackvana has an IRC channel on freenode, #hackvana where you can talk with others for advice, including Mitch Davis who runs the company, and ask about your order. Jerkey has used them with satisfaction, ~~but they are not~~ the ~~cheapest~~. They prefer Paypal, or someone in Australia who can pay in person.		hackvana has an IRC channel on freenode, #hackvana where you can talk with others for advice, including Mitch Davis who runs the company, and ask about your order. Jerkey has used them with satisfaction. They are friendly with KiCAD, the best FOSS circuit CAD project. They prefer Paypal, or someone in Australia who can pay in person.
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	*http://e-teknet.com/		*http://e-teknet.com/
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	*[http://www.elecrow.com/ Elecrow]		*[http://www.elecrow.com/ Elecrow]

	Jerkey used ~~them~~ once and they fucked up the order, ~~possibly because~~ they ~~were replacing their entire~~ website and ~~e-store~~ and ~~payment processing company on that very day~~. ~~They are cheaper than Hackvana so as long as~~ they ~~don~~'~~t screw up it might be worth using~~.		Jerkey used Elecrow once and they fucked up the order, sent boards of the wrong thickness, and at least 2 out of 15 boards were defective. If this weren't enough, they have a "new" and "old" website and they can't decide which one you should use, neither site uses TLS, and they're both horrible, and they reject your credit card even if it's fine. Then send emails saying your order is on its way, even though it's been rejected, and weeks later you ask WTF and they're like "oops"

			Jerkey says DON'T USE ELECROW. Rab only recommends them because he enjoys being contrary to Jerkey.

	Rab ordered [http://www.elecrow.com/10pcs-2-layer-pcb-p-1175.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] three times. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 2-3 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline routing; silkscreen faded or smudged. With Shenzhen DHL shipping (~$20 extra), 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received. New/old website setup dichotomy is confusing. Have not used the new website.		Rab ordered [http://www.elecrow.com/10pcs-2-layer-pcb-p-1175.html 10pcs- 2 layer PCB] three times. Each order was satisfactory. No extra charge for typical silkscreen colors. Faint marks on the pads indicate 100% e-test. No manufacturer's mark placed on either side. 2-3 extra copies were included with each order, possibly to offset any failures. No electrical failures. Some PCBs exhibited: light scratches in solder mask; minor inconsistencies in board outline routing; silkscreen faded or smudged. With Shenzhen DHL shipping (~$20 extra), 7 calendar day turnaround from order placed to received. New/old website setup dichotomy is confusing. Have not used the new website.

Jerkey at 22:58, 31 July 2016

2016-07-31T22:58:49Z

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	Places to get your circuitboards made, or even populated with parts:		Places to get your circuitboards made, or even populated with parts:
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			*[http://imgur.com/gallery/TbzsP how to etch pyralux circuits yourself with a Phaser printer]
			if you just want to prototype a circuit ASAP you can do it at sudoroom (or noisebridge?) with this one neat trick
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	*[http://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/Platinenhersteller Platinenhersteller wiki page]		*[http://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/Platinenhersteller Platinenhersteller wiki page]

Jerkey at 02:38, 29 July 2016

2016-07-29T02:38:58Z

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	Places to get your circuitboards made, or even populated with parts:		Places to get your circuitboards made, or even populated with parts:
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			*[http://www.mikrocontroller.net/articles/Platinenhersteller Platinenhersteller wiki page]
			not a fab house link, but if you can read German you'll find a lot of information on this wiki
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	*[http://www.hackvana.com/store/ Hackvana]		*[http://www.hackvana.com/store/ Hackvana]