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		<title>Gmeader at 20:24, 1 September 2014</title>
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		<author><name>Gmeader</name></author>
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		<title>Tunabananas: added mtg notes</title>
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* Yael, Yahel, Aaron, Freeman, MaxB, Jenny, Rikke&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Key points=&lt;br /&gt;
* Burning Man (camping in style)&lt;br /&gt;
* Internet-enabled education&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Burning Man with fast Internet&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Manchester Pomo Rancheria&lt;br /&gt;
** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Band_of_Pomo_Indians_of_the_Manchester-Point_Arena_Rancheria&lt;br /&gt;
* Stornetta family ranch&lt;br /&gt;
** Huge area, part near the beach is being donated to the feds for a national monument&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Core question: securing land for the event&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Intention/Intro=&lt;br /&gt;
* Freeman: Open to all audiences, would love to see students/startup kids/coders 17-30&lt;br /&gt;
* Yahel: egoistic - De Novo humanitarian project; local community [tribe, Irish Beach retirees; high schoolers/youngsters; what the Internet can do for you&lt;br /&gt;
** Tap into local organizations, creating partnerships with them&lt;br /&gt;
* Yael: Internet as bridging rather than dividing generations; involving families; connecting the elders&lt;br /&gt;
* Aaron: What would the rest of the world use high-speed internet for?; why would rural people want to get on the Internet? research questions :)&lt;br /&gt;
* Yael: Internet as bridging rather than dividing generations; involving families; connecting the elders&lt;br /&gt;
* Aaron: What would the rest of the world use high-speed internet for?; why would rural people want to get on the Internet? research questions :)&lt;br /&gt;
* Jenny: Connect to the tribe? Documenting stories, cultural preservation, co-learning, urban hacker/maker respite,&lt;br /&gt;
* Max: Pulling down the culturally-created curtain of mystery around the tools people use every day; that we feel like we can't touch or don't feel confident touching / deconstructing - facilitating familiarity with tools - deeply skeptical of Burning Man - more interested in things that are transformative after the Thing is over; positive and useful change for communities that we have good relationships with&lt;br /&gt;
* Rikke: Appropriate technologies / environmentalism, way too many hours in a lab; lived in Mendocino County w/ satellite uplink, trying to figure out a backhaul across several ridgelines straight west, lived part of childhood in Tanzania so familiar w/ underserved communities; research on deployment of IT in rural subsaharan Africa.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Details=&lt;br /&gt;
* 100-1000 people for 2-4 weeks&lt;br /&gt;
* Populations: Locals, hacker/makers, academic people as well, marijuana workers&lt;br /&gt;
** Skills to earn money while they travel&lt;br /&gt;
** Community &amp;quot;under siege&amp;quot; - people are bristly during harvest season&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Outstanding Questions=&lt;br /&gt;
* What's in it for the local community?&lt;br /&gt;
* What's the long-term benefit?&lt;br /&gt;
* What other historically disadvantaged communities could we also help?&lt;br /&gt;
* Examine ICT4D research;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Discussion=&lt;br /&gt;
* Success defined as having fun&lt;br /&gt;
* More important to have clear questions than clear organizers&lt;br /&gt;
* Definitely start thinking about fencing&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Ideal Numbers=&lt;br /&gt;
* Yahel: Low thousands - how do you stop it?&lt;br /&gt;
* Rikke: 12-1400 people; has helped organized festivals with 75-95,000 people in Europe&lt;br /&gt;
* Freeman: Thousands for a full month too much - passing through, yes; capping it at $1K at any given time; 100-220 stayers [scenesters]; fluxes&lt;br /&gt;
** 2-day passes, day passes, week passes etc;&lt;br /&gt;
* Max: Tickets? Paid? Fences?&lt;br /&gt;
* Jenny: would like to keep it 'village sized' with some events or summer-camp style weekend workshops&lt;br /&gt;
* Rikke: First group of people will build it for you, should be free. Second group should be promoted to, need to have an idea of a target audience --&amp;gt; But then you need to deliver.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Key Considerations=&lt;br /&gt;
* Water Supply&lt;br /&gt;
* Sanitation&lt;br /&gt;
** Portipotties&lt;br /&gt;
* Energy&lt;br /&gt;
** None? Solar?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Visions=&lt;br /&gt;
* Yael: Cloud Computing (in the foggy foresty coast)&lt;br /&gt;
* Chaos Computer Camp&lt;br /&gt;
* Students from UC Berkeley&lt;br /&gt;
* Learning / Workshops / etc&lt;br /&gt;
* What if we could offer learning camps then extend to DIY&lt;br /&gt;
* Berkeley / Stanford classes for accreditation crossing over to other realms of uninstitutionalized knowledge&lt;br /&gt;
* Teaching things where having access to high-speed internet combined with these kinds of knowledge&lt;br /&gt;
* Natural Building, Yoga, Dance, etc should also be prioritized in some manner&lt;br /&gt;
* That maybe we need to cultivate around a form of 'networking technology' that expands beyond the technical to the human relations that create those networks&lt;br /&gt;
* That we could smudge it to knowledge sharing&lt;br /&gt;
* That we could expand it to a healing relationship with the internet that demands balence, symbiosis&lt;br /&gt;
** Put a university in the woods for a few days&lt;br /&gt;
** We bring you a university for a few days&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Organizing=&lt;br /&gt;
* Showers&lt;br /&gt;
* Portapotties&lt;br /&gt;
* Water!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=Action Items=&lt;br /&gt;
* Two-pager to give to community stakeholders&lt;br /&gt;
** Why?&lt;br /&gt;
** Content - what sort of activities&lt;br /&gt;
* Check in w/ Mendo Mini Maker Faire (Rikke)&lt;br /&gt;
** Where is the local Mendo maker community?&lt;br /&gt;
* 10-line pitch to solicit personal invitations [Yahel]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Tunabananas</name></author>
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