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<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">vote on peoples programs membership proposal</span></span></p> <table style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122;" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;">Revision as of 02:22, 1 February 2024</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l218">Line 218:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 218:</td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* jake - i disagree</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* jake - i disagree</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* alex - with the definition of consensus?</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* alex - with the definition of consensus?</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* yar - i strongly [dis]agree with the people who block, but i <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">dont </del>think that <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">evveryone </del>has to agree to block for the <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">elegate </del>to block.  If i was the delegate in this vote, i would agree that the delegate needs to block, but i want to point out how many people have felt alienated from coming to these meetings, because of the shit that has happened at these meetings, but if they had been coming to these meetings you would have a couple more blocks, abstains, approves....i think omni's got a real problem here</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* yar - i strongly [dis]agree with the people who block, but i <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">don't </ins>think that <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">everyone </ins>has to agree to block for the <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">delegate </ins>to block.  If i was the delegate in this vote, i would agree that the delegate needs to block, but i want to point out how many people have felt alienated from coming to these meetings, because of the shit that has happened at these meetings, but if they had been coming to these meetings you would have a couple more blocks, abstains, approves....i think omni's got a real problem here</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* andrew - this is what i was mentioning about not getting anything done, because anyone can block something getting through, but if its a contentious issue we've got to go with a majority rule</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* andrew <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">w </ins>- this is what i was mentioning about not getting anything done, because anyone can block something getting through, but if its a contentious issue we've got to go with a majority rule</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* yar - but what is majority rule</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* yar - but what is majority rule</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* andrew - count the votes</div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* andrew <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">w </ins>- count the votes</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* alex - the basis of this process is that we have to communicate, this encourages people to approach where they are, thats the virtue, there are bad things about it too</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* alex - the basis of this process is that we have to communicate, this encourages people to approach where they are, thats the virtue, there are bad things about it too</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* andrew w - i devoted two hours of my life for this, do what you're gonna do</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* andrew w - i devoted two hours of my life for this, do what you're gonna do</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* yar - alex it seems like you should block tomorrow, i <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">dont </del>want you to block but i <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">dont thik </del>you have a choice here, i think consensus .... its not permanent, maybe in two weeks...it seems the only way forward, if people feel this strongly... i just encourage everyone to talk with the people you are disagreeing with. ill put my email. the problem i see at <del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">omni </del>is the way consensus is building is just by someone walking away.  </div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>* yar - alex it seems like you should block tomorrow, i <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">don't </ins>want you to block but i <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">don't think </ins>you have a choice here, i think consensus .... its not permanent, maybe in two weeks...it seems the only way forward, if people feel this strongly... i just encourage everyone to talk with the people you are disagreeing with. ill put my email. the problem i see at <ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Omni </ins>is the way consensus is building is just by someone walking away.</div></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><br/></td></tr> <tr><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== ED contract ==</div></td><td class="diff-marker"></td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>== ED contract ==</div></td></tr> </table>

Jerkey https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Meeting_Notes_2024-01-31&diff=12394&oldid=prev 2024-02-01T06:31:06Z

<p>Created page with &quot;= Attendees = * carl - hi i&#039;m carl (remotely) * andrew w - i&#039;m here, remotely * E - i&#039;m here remotely, at work so please don&#039;t hold votes while i&#039;m not present, or text me if there are votes so i can participate * yar - she/her, i wanted to be there in person but i had a covid exposure so i&#039;m isolating for the next few days * alex - i&#039;m alex, i&#039;m the delegate * trevor - i&#039;m trevor * paige [notetaker] - former delegate * jake [notetaker] - former delegate == pre-meetin...&quot;</p> <a href="https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Meeting_Notes_2024-01-31&amp;diff=12394">Show changes</a>

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