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		<title>Tunabananas: Created page with &quot;'''People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 9 October 2018 7:30pm-9pm''' * https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy  === Agenda === * Introductions and Meeting Roles (10...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;People&amp;#039;s Open Network Weekly Meeting - 9 October 2018 7:30pm-9pm&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; * https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy  === Agenda === * Introductions and Meeting Roles (10...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;'''People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 9 October 2018 7:30pm-9pm'''&lt;br /&gt;
* https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Agenda ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Check in on previous action items (5 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Updates &amp;amp; Reportbacks (20 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Next Sunday (5 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Action Items (5 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Breakout Groups&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Introductions ===&lt;br /&gt;
Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements&lt;br /&gt;
* Icebreaker question: What are you optimistic about?&lt;br /&gt;
* Sethasauras - they - optimistic about your house staying around for a long time&lt;br /&gt;
* Null - him/he - I'm optimistic about free internet&lt;br /&gt;
* Benny - he/him - this publication i get monthly called Smudge. there's an interview w/ a 7-year old about politics First question/answer is, &amp;quot;What is politics?&amp;quot; -&amp;gt; &amp;quot;i dunno&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Moritz - visitting from Berlin - he/him - we can do really huge mesh networks! in the future&lt;br /&gt;
* nanomonkey/Scott - he/him - oceanfront property&lt;br /&gt;
** grant - does anyone know the average elevation of Oakland? It's 42.&lt;br /&gt;
* Lesley - no preferred pronouns - ive been convincing myself and am cautiously optimistic about the upcoming elections. if young people turn out to vote there might be some big changes--backlash!&lt;br /&gt;
* Grant - he/they/whatever - I am optimistic about the end of the world. I'm kind of excited about the post-apocalypse.&lt;br /&gt;
** jenny - riffing off that, end of world will help popularize solar punk! We have 12 year catastrophe deadlline... maybe a subculture movement that captures the youth--captain planet meets cyberpunk.&lt;br /&gt;
* Jenny -  she/her - am otherwise not very optimistic&lt;br /&gt;
* remote-mai - she/they - optimistic that I will pass this damn networking midterm test &amp;gt;_&amp;lt; . Also that some form of biological/genetic intelligence will prevail, even if humans don't end up surviving past climate change + its effects&lt;br /&gt;
** grant - the rats will inherit the earth&lt;br /&gt;
** remote-mai: maybe the rats can learn a thing or two about how *not* to build civilizations&lt;br /&gt;
** Also! I may be able to meet up with the Community Networks group meeting at the IGF next month if I go there for a gig. Would be sad to miss BYOI and the Libre Router hackathon tho. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Meeting Roles ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Facilitator/s: Benny&lt;br /&gt;
* Stacktaker:  Lesley&lt;br /&gt;
* Notetaker/s: Benny, Jenny, all of us!!&lt;br /&gt;
** URL of this pad: https://peoplesopen.net/notes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Check in on previous action items ==&lt;br /&gt;
Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes and past action items below:&lt;br /&gt;
* find someone who's happy to climb towers to mount radio on richmond tower (ben's friend?) &lt;br /&gt;
** scott doesn't mind the heights&lt;br /&gt;
** grant is not opposed to it and has work-related insurance&lt;br /&gt;
** drone mount?&lt;br /&gt;
* see if we got a neighborly app receipt and put in google drive (benny)&lt;br /&gt;
** we didn't&lt;br /&gt;
* schedule psychz deprecation session with juul (benny)&lt;br /&gt;
** didn't happen&lt;br /&gt;
** jenny - currently in back + forth with psychz because of card problems&lt;br /&gt;
** GRANT: should prep a second exit node &lt;br /&gt;
* buy omni antennas (grant)&lt;br /&gt;
** done https://trello.com/c/nblrd6F9/26-ubiquiti-amo-5g13-5ghz-airmax-dual-omni-13dbi-wifi-antenna&lt;br /&gt;
** suggested purchasing https://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=amo-5g13&lt;br /&gt;
*** suggest keeping 2 in stock at all times&lt;br /&gt;
** Scott and Robb went to Alco and got angle iron for roof mounts, did not get any conduit&lt;br /&gt;
* e-mail paxio (juul)&lt;br /&gt;
** not done yet--see below. mai forwarding e-mail to juul&lt;br /&gt;
* add ISOC proposal process to loomio discussion below (jenny)&lt;br /&gt;
** done https://www.loomio.org/d/t96DoNbJ/what-should-a-project-proposal-look-like-/2&lt;br /&gt;
** also added comment about minimum proposal requirements&lt;br /&gt;
* new loomio thread for defining project proposal template (benny)&lt;br /&gt;
** done https://www.loomio.org/d/t96DoNbJ/what-should-a-project-proposal-look-like-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Updates &amp;amp; Reportbacks ==&lt;br /&gt;
* remote-juul asks: Is there an email thread with Paxio folk that I'm not on? I haven't emailed them yet. I couldn't find the thread when searching yesterday but also my internet connection was crap so I might have missed it. Can someone forward it to me then I will email today. &lt;br /&gt;
** remote-mai: I have a thread with them â€” in which they stopped responding a few months ago when I followed up. I'll forward you that email (which includes Tim Pozar) and you can cc me on the new thread we start with them re: our LOS to them&lt;br /&gt;
* remote-juul asks: Are we sure the AirFiber we mounted on our building is the international version? It probably should be.&lt;br /&gt;
* benny: I don't think we are sure. I'll try to confirm. I hope it says somewhere in the UI?&lt;br /&gt;
* juul: If the country is restricted to u.s. only then thats not the int version&lt;br /&gt;
* benny: okay--there should be a country selection dropdown or something?&lt;br /&gt;
* lesley: yep, it's locked onto US or ...I think the gui is a little different? I'm trying to look right now, assuming I'm connected to the correct ip. Nevermind, Grant just reminded me I can't connect with my machine without a cable. I guess the only way to connect is to climb up on the roof and plug in.&lt;br /&gt;
* grant: we can get into to from the cage, IP/pw info should be in trello, will debug later (I remember being a dropdown for country)&lt;br /&gt;
* lesley: Nope, it's the US version :/&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Bugs/Technical ===&lt;br /&gt;
Priority bugs we need help with are located at: http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted - For a high-level overview of recent Github activity, see the Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-mesh-github-repos&lt;br /&gt;
* jenny - grant schooled the sudowrt firmware repo&lt;br /&gt;
* benny + juul + grant debugged how to get meshing working with air os extender nodes&lt;br /&gt;
* for more on private network and traffic priortization see these issues:&lt;br /&gt;
** https://github.com/sudomesh/sudowrt-firmware/issues/131&lt;br /&gt;
** https://github.com/sudomesh/bugs/issues/2&lt;br /&gt;
** https://github.com/sudomesh/sudowrt-firmware/issues/107&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Just found this https://imgur.com/B0jzM9h ???!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Node Mounts &amp;amp; Outreach ===&lt;br /&gt;
Node Mounts Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-mounts&lt;br /&gt;
* grant - reed brothers node is now working! also setup the omni antenna atop the reed bros roof. 52 down, 15 up from omni connection. do we want to limit it?&lt;br /&gt;
** jenny - might be good to discuss in sudoroom&lt;br /&gt;
** scott - can you give priority to the private network traffic?&lt;br /&gt;
** grant - effective way to handle that would be for someone to get a better home router that can prioritize their traffic (as opposed to it being a peoples open network issue). we can't prioritize someones home internet traffic.&lt;br /&gt;
** scott - i thought that was the point of the private SSID, so we can prioritize that over the public SSID&lt;br /&gt;
* grant: can't ping extender port from just anywhere - but if you plug it into public port - in this case, port 2, that gives you an ip address and then you can ping the extender node and get into its interface.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Communications &amp;amp; Events ===&lt;br /&gt;
Comms Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-mesh-communications // Events Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peoples-open-events&lt;br /&gt;
* benny - working with jorrit on tcp/ip/udp postcards&lt;br /&gt;
** jenny - yar did a cool workshop in sudoroom like that&lt;br /&gt;
* jenny - if you used the non profit dev summit code let me know!&lt;br /&gt;
* jenny - nico from librerouter is being sponsored to come to the non profit dev summit and wants to work on libre router stuff on the 17th!&lt;br /&gt;
* jenny - internet governance summit in paris! mai may already be there. some funding available if we want to send someone.&lt;br /&gt;
* jenny - someone from the netherlands pinged the rocketchat today about starting a peoples open network in florida!&lt;br /&gt;
* null - i met someone who has good contacts who seemed interested in peoples open! he might spread the word&lt;br /&gt;
* seth sent out newsletter! woo! jenny + grant showed him how to use mailchimp&lt;br /&gt;
** jenny - highest click rate of any newsletter yet! (except 1)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Internal Logistics / Finance ===&lt;br /&gt;
Internal Logistics &amp;amp; Bureaucracy Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/internal-logistics-bureaucracy-brainstorms&lt;br /&gt;
* jenny - just ordered the omnis mentioned earlier this meeting.&lt;br /&gt;
* jenny- sierk submitted request for another digital ocean droplet to separate dev and prod envs&lt;br /&gt;
* jenny - we have a home depot gift card &lt;br /&gt;
* jenny - we really need an insurance policy -- to do that we need to update our business plan to show that we have the money to pay for an insurance policy&lt;br /&gt;
** moritz - you need an insurance policy? we don't need one at freifunk.&lt;br /&gt;
*** moritz: people just connect, we receive info that this or that device is linked to some other device, and then we map it but we assume no liability for those connections.&lt;br /&gt;
**** used to be much more complicated - self-assigned IP addresses, wiki account, etc; - now is much more simple  that's how a lot of places got connected - even 2000 nodes in an area or an entirely interconnected downtown - they just popped up - no liability, but it works! public internet in the middle of town. lots of people involved in municipal governance&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Next Sunday ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Node Mount ===&lt;br /&gt;
We try to arrange a rooftop node mount every Sunday afternoon. Ongoing spreadsheet is located at: https://peoplesopen.net/sundays&lt;br /&gt;
* Next Sunday's mount: maybe sailing club? may&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Office Hours ===&lt;br /&gt;
We host office hours every Sunday from 1-2pm in Sudo Room. To sign up for a shift, fill in your name here: https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours&lt;br /&gt;
* Next Sunday's volunteer: maybe seth, maybe grant (probably)&lt;br /&gt;
* Notes from this past Sunday's session: &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Action Items ==&lt;br /&gt;
* come up with list of psychz node ips (grant + benny)&lt;br /&gt;
* follow up about psychz billing (jenny)&lt;br /&gt;
* e-mail Jonah about tower rehab status (jenny, cc lesley, grant &amp;amp; benny)&lt;br /&gt;
* print node port stickers (jnny)&lt;br /&gt;
* e-mail yar about tcp activities (benny)&lt;br /&gt;
* connect berkeley marina - tony (smurfir@gmail.com) - jenny -&amp;gt; null / grant / &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Breakout Groups ==&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the meeting, break out into small groups to hack on or discuss specific topics.&lt;br /&gt;
* &lt;br /&gt;
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== Last Meeting Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
* https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/2_October_2018&lt;br /&gt;
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== End of Meeting ==&lt;br /&gt;
* please archive these meeting notes by copying the entire pad contents onto the sudomesh wiki with the correct date format: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/DD_MM_YYYY&lt;br /&gt;
* then please erase the contents of this pad&lt;br /&gt;
* then please cut &amp;amp; paste a blank template from here: https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Mesh/Mesh_Meeting_Notes_Template&amp;amp;action=edit&lt;br /&gt;
* previous meeting notes are archived here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Mesh/Minutes]]&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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