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		<title>Tunabananas: Created page with &quot;Peoples Open Meeting - Oct 17, 2017  = attendees = * blake - interested in wifi security things, mozilla grant for people's open * scott - went to science hack day @ github on...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Peoples Open Meeting - Oct 17, 2017  = attendees = * blake - interested in wifi security things, mozilla grant for people&amp;#039;s open * scott - went to science hack day @ github on...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Peoples Open Meeting - Oct 17, 2017&lt;br /&gt;
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= attendees =&lt;br /&gt;
* blake - interested in wifi security things, mozilla grant for people's open&lt;br /&gt;
* scott - went to science hack day @ github on sat and hacked on disasterradio. made a lot of good connections - esp eduardo who built a network visualization app [link: https://jemucino.github.io/disaster-radio-netsim/ ] - sunday did a node mount at my place, home node (not extender [yet]) - either carriage house or redwood tree. tree seems best option - need to look into safe practices for a tree mount - ensure it's a solid limb, proper harness, proper grounding. finalizing circuitboard for disasterradio and will try to send them out this week, then work on the final design&lt;br /&gt;
* jason - first time. interested in disasterradio, cryptocurrency, blockchain, web dev.&lt;br /&gt;
* roger - first time, from catalonia.. tense situation right now in catalonia (which is not spain). *Guifi network&lt;br /&gt;
* devin  - from oakland. revolution happening here [again]. y'all are inspiring. want to contribute. boot camp coach.&lt;br /&gt;
* ? - from senegal, part of the learners guild, been interested in mesh networks for a long time. west africa still under the thumb of the europeans - orange is the monopoly network there - but there's still grassroots stuff going on. studying computer science and web dev&lt;br /&gt;
* jehan: was a wispapalooza. very interesting. wireless isps that use gear like we do to server small numbers of subscribers. a lot of them are using LTE, most still use wifi. some use cambian(sp?) which is a bit more expensive. they spend a lot of time doing support / customer service. 70-80% of their calls are from people who can't get wifi in some area of their house. they are starting to do cloud managed in-home access points so they take care of supporting the in-home wifi. they have a lot of towers. there was a lot of stuff about climbing towers, knowing when to replace equipment. They all either use static routing or they use OSPF. A lot of them use microtik routers. Totally different culturally. They were these rural guys setting up internet. some interest in althea. 3D printed radio propagation sim&lt;br /&gt;
* marc - firmware dev. looked at the new KRACKATTACK WPA2 vulnerability today. worked with felix on a patch. plan to pull in the latest version of the package, encountered docker issues. hope to get it compiled in the next day or 2 - in the meantime, use good security hygiene on the private networks. unfo happening at the same time as this 4G-LTE-U unlicensed spectrum becoming available.. doesn't look good for wifi right now. could run on the LTE with unlicensed sim cards and not need a telecom subscription, but otherwise entails dependency on subscription-based telecoms.&lt;br /&gt;
** like this in many places, sim cards in modems or laptops, primarily phone usage, on 4G connections (eg W Africa, E Africa, Haiti)&lt;br /&gt;
***  ways to make it work, but not a model conducive to decentralization - powerful towers, many client handsets. &lt;br /&gt;
**** blake: still culturally preferable to use wifi over paying cell providers.&lt;br /&gt;
***** marc: well, isps looking to replace wifi, use 4G modems that hog wifi bandwidth. [femtocells/microcells]&lt;br /&gt;
* andy: software engineer, i like hacking on software and wireless. interested in politics and social justice&lt;br /&gt;
* jenny: i'm jenny, i 've been with this project in various capacities and most recently in the capacity of head bureaucrat. non-profit application is almost done. the mozilla grant doesn't explicitly care of you're a non-profit or a for-profit. science hack day was rad. i came pretty late. met a guy who works in hayward and does a lot of collaboration with hayward and fremon and san leandro. which is the path to hurricane electric. san leandro and hayward are collaborating on an &amp;quot;innovation corridor&amp;quot;. san leandro is particularly supporting female entrepeneurs. i like how he thought about leveraging city resources and officials to help community projects. i need to share our community outreach spreadsheet. GAIA-gps&lt;br /&gt;
* remote-daniel: just reading your notes. Ah and thank you to those that have donated for the kids/school in Guatemala. -- still playing with the few seconds video, new vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0C-WeS2BnM&amp;amp;feature=youtu.be . :) &lt;br /&gt;
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= server for hurricane electric =&lt;br /&gt;
* james &amp;amp; howard offering rackspace&lt;br /&gt;
* jehan offers to set up the physical server&lt;br /&gt;
* set up with RAID&lt;br /&gt;
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= sunday node mount =&lt;br /&gt;
* rita - came here last week - lives at 24th &amp;amp; magnolia (can see livelabs &amp;amp; hearth) - single story warehouse, no internet so would be direct benefit&lt;br /&gt;
* hearth node pointing to livelabs needs to be replaced, node pointing to TMI is fine. TMI node having some issues and needs to be debugged. &lt;br /&gt;
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= action items =&lt;br /&gt;
* inventory our donated hardware from monkeybrains - marc did, there are 62&lt;br /&gt;
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= miscellaneous link dump =&lt;br /&gt;
* HackPad for the PON challenge: https://hackmd.io/BwQwZgJiBMEGwFoDMSDGB2BAWArCAjAsAAzDAL4BGIAnCaiMcQKbFA==?view#&lt;br /&gt;
* HackPad for the DisasterRadio challenge: https://hackmd.io/KYIwZgrAxgzCDsBaADBATATkQFgGzCkQA4YATMRU0gQ2rVyhAEYJgig=&lt;br /&gt;
* guifi: https://guifi.net&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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