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<p><b>New page</b></p><div>=Attendees=<br />
* Marc (juul) - interested in replicability), Jannik (Reseau-Libre), Bayo (LISP programmer, interested in learning networking), Jehan (javascript), Jenny (documentation, replicability, outreach, global community), Alex (math, programming, works on firmware), MaxB (firmware, frontend, network infrastructure), Glen (ad-hoc comms, HAM background), Sam (programmer), Matt (social hacking, diagrams, getting into codes), Jeff (data center guru, RF, experience w/ mesh in Chicago, SDN experience), Paige (design & outreach), Kwik (spreading positive vibes), Deekoo (contributes paranoia), 5c077 (Scott) - interested in sneakerNet, BBS, making widgets for mesh, and design/dev for main site.<br />
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=Project overview & Q&A=<br />
* Sudomesh: organization which is CA non-profit<br />
- Thin<br />
- Recieves funding, facilitates workshops<br />
- Develops tech<br />
* Peoplesopen.net: actual network<br />
- license<br />
- Ideally forkable with one script<br />
* How do nodes work and what do they do?<br />
- Provide SSIDs:<br />
- peoplesopen.net (public, accessible by everyone)<br />
+ tunnels over our virtual public network<br />
+ should legally protect <br />
- private (a private AP for a home user)<br />
- Ad-hoc node->node ssid<br />
* What are the benefits of a local network?<br />
- Local services (accessible even when The Internet is down<br />
- increase bandwidth by uploading / down<br />
* Other examples of mesh networks?<br />
* Several networks up to 3,000 nodes<br />
* Guifi.net is the largest community network (22,000+ nodes)<br />
* What does the FCC think?<br />
* We're using unlicensed spectrum<br />
* How do we cover Oakland?<br />
* More towers for people to point nodes at<br />
* Google Earth now has 3D building data<br />
* USGS makes topo data available publicly afaik, city zoning DBs are likely to have building height data.<br />
* Cost?<br />
* In-home node for $30<br />
* Street-facing node for $50-60<br />
* Rooftop node for $120<br />
* How does it get to the internet?<br />
* Public SSID is routed through a VPN tunnel that<br />
* Configured to share existing bandwidth (user-determined) and connect to the nearest node<br />
* Latency?<br />
* TDMA<br />
* VPN tunneling<br />
* Hardware<br />
* Check out new MonoPrice routers<br />
* Name recognition?<br />
* ZeroConf networking, Eg Apple's Bonjour<br />
* mDNS (decentralized resolution of DNS)<br />
* Fiber?<br />
* We've talked to the director of BART twice, re: dark fiber<br />
* "You should talk to Berkeley Labs"<br />
* DisasterRadio - super low-bandwidth delay-tolerant mesh - http://sudoroom.org/wiki/DisasterRadio<br />
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=Brainstorms/Ideas=<br />
* Crypto Currency to encourage folks to host nodes<br />
* Scavenger hunt-style game (eg unlock badges for connecting to nodes)<br />
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=Technical=<br />
* Update on home routers tested (3)<br />
* Firmware update and todo (how far away from 0.2 are we)<br />
* exit node provisioning script<br />
* monitoring (mini_snmp and cacti)<br />
* service browser<br />
* fake captive portal (MDNS + node.js)<br />
- someone's experience suggested that adding a google search form was useful<br />
- There's a mesh-dev list at https://lists.sudoroom.org/listinfo/mesh-dev for more technical dev discussion.<br />
* Deekoo hosting firmware images moving forward @ http://deekoo.net/mesh<br />
- Contact Deekoo if you want a login/passphrase on it.<br />
* Mitar / Cloyne colo offer, <br />
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==Call out to Developers!==<br />
* Building mesh services! <br />
- What would you want to see a local network provide (service wise)?<br />
- https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Distributed_Services<br />
- Perhaps just thinking about what it would take to implement previously developed services<br />
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=Outreach=<br />
* Matt and Jenny have been talking with a community organizer in Richmond re: interviewing local residents and activists<br />
* Also beginning conversations with Nerds for Nature re: sensor networks<br />
* Berkeley cooperative houses <br />
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=Finance=<br />
* We have about $4000 ($3K and 2 BTC)<br />
* We should buy some new hardware!<br />
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=Hardware=<br />
* Lots of available rooftops in W Oakland<br />
* Nanostations (6), Nanobridges (6), Western Digital home routers<br />
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=Action Items=<br />
* Max is going to talk with folks about services/service-browser<br />
* Deekoo is still being paranoid about security audits of openwrt, but doesn't have time to rewrite the build process.<br />
* "How to Care for Your Node" guide<br />
* Set up a build server that can be remotely and automatically shut down and booted up<br />
* Pester people who've checked out hardware [Jenny]<br />
* Buy some newer hardware so we can start keeping stock [Jenny]</div>Tunabananas