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<p>Created page with &quot;Peoples Open Meeting - Sept. 26, 2017 = attendees = * Jehan - been researching chimney mounts * Mai - Worked for EFF for 5 years on policy &amp; copyright issues. Sad couldn&#039;...&quot;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>Peoples Open Meeting - Sept. 26, 2017<br /> <br /> = attendees = <br /> * Jehan - been researching chimney mounts<br /> * Mai - Worked for EFF for 5 years on policy &amp; copyright issues. Sad couldn't make it to BYOI.. Good at organizing, talking to potential partners etc<br /> * Sierk - spends time coding UIs, sent first monthly newsletter! added newsletter signup form to the bottom of each page in peoplesopen.net<br /> * Lesley - ave been away for a little bit, want's to catch up, distributed door flyers in Berkeley Hills<br /> * Keo - from france, wants to start mesh<br /> * Grant - did things for byoi, attempted node mount on sunday<br /> * Scott - did cooking for byoi, took over byoi station, working on circuitboard for disaster radio<br /> * Carl - software developer, mostly mobile apps. lives near Hayward<br /> * Eve - retired sys admin, carried stuff to roof <br /> * Max - also member of nonprofit ISP that Keo mentioned<br /> * Will - lives nearby, has node, helping with node mount<br /> * Nic - helping out with enclosure design<br /> * Jenny - helped out with byoi, negotiated space issues, been working on 501c3 application<br /> * Robb - helped out with A/V at byoi, likes hardware, interested in node mounting &amp; hardware side of disasterradio<br /> * Tom - likes configuring nodes, controbited to previous byoi<br /> *Jorrit - made signs for byoi, found interesting way of copying fonts from computer screen, curious about use cases for mesh/disaster_radio<br /> * Tom2 - didn't design any logos, did co-found OMI (Open Mechanics Institute)<br /> * Troy - Omni-brarian, meta lingistic system, getting a holographic system together<br /> <br /> = updates =<br /> * Grant (really marc, but Grant got the ball rolling) set up an etherpad instance! at pad.peoplesopen.net - link to old notes: https://pad.riseup.net/p/peoplesopen_agenda<br /> <br /> == node mount == <br /> https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/NodeMounts<br /> * Jehan - ordered chimney straps Skywalker Signature Chimney Mounts w/Steel Straps<br /> * LMI location at 9th &amp; University Way. Offer to gigabit link to Dav's for $1800-3000/month (!!)<br /> * Sierk: Can bounce from SF -&gt; Dav -&gt;i<br /> * Jorrit: theme is that we're relying on donations of bandiwdth, if we provide the equipment?<br /> ** - for example, would be willing to pay for connection if didn't have to pay for personal internet<br /> ** jehan: if we have bandwidth and we build out an airfiber on his roof, then add on some point to multipoint equipment<br /> *** jorrit: makes sense to own the equipment, get donated bandwidth, and avoid paying $1000+/month<br /> **** jenny: think we should talk to that location. did we see if we had a signal to lynn &amp; jim's? (A: No, power issues at mount location)<br /> **** scott: ask the coops to pool in on a connection and get bandwidth from them<br /> * scott: pay people's equipment costs - upgrading bandwidth is minimal in $$<br /> ** jehan: need to focus on building out the actual mesh network<br /> *** grant: ...need to sell the idea...<br /> * scott: he rents this house, putting a huge mast is an issue. lothlorian is across the street. they have a treehouse.<br /> * mai: not understanding why not go with the coop members, who seem better locations, than this more expensive option?<br /> ** jenny: coop members used to attend meetings... issue seemed to be that coop rooftops were not in clear LOS to LMI location<br /> *** jehan: sudo didn't start raising funds significantly until we decided to take the plunge on the available room<br /> **** mai: would need to fundraise<br /> * robb: lmi and sonic allow sharing in their TOS - and Sonic has cheap fiber rolling out in SF<br /> <br /> == hurricane electric ==<br /> Jehan has been in contact with James Martin, has rack at hurrican electric, free or $75 a month, they will not shut us down for DMCA takedown requests<br /> <br /> == althea ==<br /> fixing routers from byoi, and worked spreadsheet for incentived mesh<br /> <br /> == cuba ==<br /> Mai: <br /> * Mai is going to Cuba in November for tech solidarity, free software foundation, EFF peoples, looking at it as not just teaching but, cross cultural exchange,<br /> * Internet is spotty in Cuba, you can get the internet on a cdrom with downloads of what you want to see. <br /> * Wants to see if there is potential for cross border connection<br /> <br /> *Tom - various open source computer cafes across Havana, let visitors and tourists use this<br /> * WIll - was there two years ago, 6 wifi hotspots, 5 dollars/minute. <br /> *Robb, talked to someone who when down there with mesh routers, kids liked it for gaming.<br /> *Jenny - piping stream of concert out to people in parking lot<br /> *Jehan - why is internet not available there?<br /> *Will - it's a politcal thing...wifi hotspots are mostly at western hotels<br /> *Jorrit - 1. internet in a box, 3 nodes preconfigured to mesh with one another, maybe Mai could take equipment<br /> *Mai - worried about seeming like a spy<br /> * Jorrit - 2. data MULE! , could physically carry around your data<br /> * Nic - went 2 months ago, its now 2 dollars/min, Cuba is paranoid about western propaganda<br /> * Sierk - maybe Mai could report back at the next byoi<br /> * Jenny - Mai, are you doing participatory action research - actually implementing a network down there? or more surveying the landscape?<br /> ** Mai - going as jorunalist, organizing confernce<br /> * sierk: sudoroom has a connection to computer distribution project in cuba (daniel? ed?)<br /> * Jorrit - interesting that they do it already, propaganda is real!<br /> * Mai - we have a host of different problems for why we haven't done it yet<br /> * Nic: Documentary on internet in Cuba: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=692&amp;v=sqxzYGR8qh4<br /> <br /> == byoi ==<br /> Sierk - thanks scott for food<br /> jenny: and grant for stickers &amp; buttons! *proceeds to grab cashbox w/ stickers &amp; drops it all over the floor. loudly* <br /> <br /> == logo contest / website ==<br /> <br /> <br /> == mozilla / nsf grant ==<br /> * November 2017 submission deadline for Design<br /> * January 2018 - announcment of first stage winners announcement<br /> * Jun 2018 - workin prototype submissions<br /> * scott: meetup about use cases <br /> * jenny: suggests forming a finance committee<br /> ** sierk: thinks is a good idea to create a finance committee<br /> *** mai: is not so simple as crunching the numbers. having a process in place is key, before you get the money. also, mozilla will want to see that you're working with other groups<br /> **** nic: marc was hoping to pair up with Institute for the Future and get expert input on variety of topics. <br /> ***** scott: can contact Nerd for Naturewith<br /> * lesley: consider how we can avoid paying money to private companies eg Hurrican Electric, LMI<br /> * grant: DisasterRadio pairing with Secure Scuttlebutt.. <br /> ** sierk: might also be some groups inside the omni interested in collaborating eg Community Democracy Project<br /> <br /> == 1023 app =<br /> * Jenny - if anyone wants to hack on the language for the app?<br /> * 400 dollar fee for submitting application,<br /> Grant - are you looking for contributions<br /> Jenny - looking for bitcoin and figuring how much we need to raise. does not want to move anything from sudomesh bank account<br /> Mai - how are decisions made<br /> Jenny - they are executed through consensus unless there are legal concerns, then it comes down to the board of directors<br /> * Jehan - issue with bylaws, thought sudomesh was the networking group and peoplesopen is the network<br /> * Eve - has previously been confused about this distoincition<br /> * Jorrit - peoplesopen is a thing you use, sudomesh is a group that provides support, hopes to get other groups involved<br /> * Jenny - this model was inspired by wlan_slovenja as they expanded from city -&gt; international<br /> <br /> = action items =<br /> * research ??? - jehan<br /> * conflict of interest policy - Mozilla grant we are applying for - deadline in november<br /> *Nic - Someone please help upload this brochure to the Wiki, I have an 8mb limit and the image doesn't compress well. Thanks! https://tmi.li/index.php/s/q0B3WwXQZpnch0Z - jenny just increased upload size to 20MB, plz tste<br /> * research proper content management system - grant ;)<br /> <br /> = breakout groups =<br /> * sever &amp; dremel &amp; wine - jehan / grant<br /> * intro to new folks - jorrit / will<br /> * DisasterRadio - grant / robb / scott / nic</div>

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