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'''People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 2 October 2018 7:30pm-9pm'''
* https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy

=== Agenda ===
* Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins)
* Check in on previous action items (5 mins)
* Updates & Reportbacks (20 mins)
* Next Sunday (5 mins)
* Discussion: What should our internal project proposals look like? (15 mins)
* Action Items (5 mins)
* Breakout Groups

=== Introductions ===
Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements
* Icebreaker question: What is your favorite gift to give and/or receive?
* grant - he/they - favorite gift to give or receive is one that is made by hand
** benny/jenny - it's grant's birthday!
** jenny - maybe sunday we should have a joint birthday party
* robb - he/him - favorite gift is one found
* jon - he/him - favorite gift to give/receive is knowledge
* seth - he/they - favorite gift to receive is cashews/walnuts
* jenny - she/her - favorite gift to give/receive is books, specifically ursula le guinn novels. i also give a lot of 5th sacred thing (starhawk). (bay area separated from the resit of california -- city of refuge follow up).
* benny - he/him - favorite gift to give/receive - little blank hand-sown books
** meshed granny squares at the next BYOI !!!
* scott - he/him -i like to give books or food, or i used to do a lot of jewelry, but that's hard because it takes time and i get anxious
* martin - he - usually i like to gift people with my presence--this is my gift to you--you're all welcome. mostly i like to receive things that are hand-crafted and that tell a story about the person. simple, not expensive, but a lot of care.
* mai - she/they - either an unexpected food gift or a book that I like or that the other person would really be into
* ben (eenblam) - he/they - i like getting chocolate. i like buying chocolate for other people too i guess, but maybe that's because i get to buy myself chocolate. (usually like dark; sea salt is fun)

=== Meeting Roles ===
* Facilitator/s: Jenny
* Stacktaker: Benny
* Notetaker/s: Benny, robb
** URL of this pad: https://peoplesopen.net/notes

== Check in on previous action items ==
Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes and past action items below:
* check in with nic about whether we can use the 2 tix interchangeably over the 3 days - juul
** jenny checked and yes, only jenny + juul used it.
** scott - we tried to figure it out but didn't know what to do.
* find someone who's happy to climb towers to mount radio on richmond tower (ben's friend?)
** moving to next week (no eenblam)
** mebbe scott
* submit budget request for non-penetrating roof mounts - grant? juul?
** grant - yes, thought we should order 2x roof mounts
** scott - was talking with robb last week and we think we can make them for way cheaper
** jenny - other thing grant submitted was slipmat
** grant - ya should buy those
** breakout sesh after / notes below
* look at neighborly app and apply (benny)
** applied! as a service provider
* explore what a map of the mesh would look like (mai)
** mai - punt 2 weeks and work with jenny
* think about our communications systems -- make email list and rocket chat more present (benny)
** punted to next week

== Updates & Reportbacks ==
=== Bugs/Technical ===
Priority bugs we need help with are located at: http://peoplesopen.net/helpwanted - For a high-level overview of recent Github activity, see the Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/r9l5ouQ4/3b2eecd83bb9e7a57a339cf1ee038288/sudo-mesh-github-repos
* benny - fixed bug with exitnode babeld restart script -- we still have regular outages (see http://peoplesopen.net/monitor), but now it takes just a few seconds instead of hours before all the nodes come back online
* benny - at the last software wg we researched this babeld bug some more
* grant - had some discussion with jorrit about which exitnode ips to include in the firmware -- one of the exitnodes in the list receives connections but does not provide any mesh routes. we also want to deprecate psychz.
** propose hosting a new exit node at the internet archive
* grant - there's a firmware rebuild issue
* grant - now travis pushes back to builds.sudomesh.org so now we're doing nightly builds!
** ben - is there an easy way to push a stable release?
** grant - no it's still manual

=== Node Mounts & Outreach ===
Node Mounts Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-mounts
* reed bros - need help understanding how to use air os on the mesh. started debugging this at last sunday's office hours w/ juul. still more to figure out.
* omni rooftop (air fiber! and omni rocket!)
** airfiber still needs ground cable!
** time to e-mail paxio?! eenblam
* benny: anybody know what LOLspace's status is?
** robb - originally we wanted to put a receiver in the village, but then we ran out of time and were unsure about the security of the receiver
** jenny - village site was slated to move by mid november because of a seismic thing, but that's being pushed to mid-january, and the city is promising to provide village with available properties to move to by mid-october. Recently the village has lost a lot of equipment -- their shower truck was dismantled, solar panels stolen...
* robb - someone at here nor there camp has a solar panel and is able to run his laptop all night. might be able to put a pole on his van. may involve puttin a telescoping pole on top of david and nicki's. i'm looking into it.
** jenny - we should finish dave and nicki's.
** grant - recommend putting up an omni antenna if you go back and spend time there.
** eenblam - also recommend putting an omni on jeff's.

=== Communications & Events ===
Comms Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-mesh-communications // Events Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peoples-open-events
* seth wrote a newsletter draft: https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/pon-newsletter-2018-04
** ben: i have pictures
** mai: me too--also i've been meaning to do the handshake press release
* handshake press release: mai and jenny are working on it - join! - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-nmocVa7zTuLkWniObF2jikGoL5MI8MD7n2InSDVbwk/edit
* kalw article: http://www.kalw.org/post/people-s-open-net-internet-people-people#stream/0
* Issue with PON networks - monopolized by major service providers
* jon - researching landlord rights re: ISP provider availability to their renters. focused on SF. oakland wouldnt be protected under their ordinance. oakland's would ideally provide support for peer-to-peer networks and definition of what a communication service provider is. . under SF police code (
** discussion about ordinance: https://sfgov.legistar.com/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=2863893&GUID=E010FDC6-4024-4BA7-B282-C0F9DE32D9F4
** eenblam - monkey brains had something on their website saying that if your landlord wouldn't let you install, the ordinance would enable them to install. but, last i checked, i couldnt find the wording on the website anymore.
** grant - in oakland is there anything that says you can or cannot put anything on your apartment building?
** jon - maybe need to update the building codes. right now every apartment has to have a mandatory phone jack. maybe should change to mandatory cat 6.

=== Internal Logistics / Finance ===
Internal Logistics & Bureaucracy Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/internal-logistics-bureaucracy-brainstorms
* Jenny and Benny issued reimbursements for everyone who requested it
* Purchasing requests:
** Grant clarified the roofmount equipment needs. were coonfused about laser gun (namely why and why this model which is ~$200 more than other similar models?)
* ben - if we can get professional google earth, we'd get lidar data from that.
* grant - i got some wirless wires -- supposedly can put openwrt on them

== Next Sunday ==
=== Node Mount ===
We try to arrange a rooftop node mount every Sunday afternoon. Ongoing spreadsheet is located at: https://peoplesopen.net/sundays
* Next Sunday's mount:
** make prototype non-penetrating roof mount (lead by scott and robb)
** birthday party!

=== Office Hours ===
We host office hours every Sunday from 1-2pm in Sudo Room. To sign up for a shift, fill in your name here: https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours
* Next Sunday's volunteer:
* Notes from this past Sunday's session:

== Discussion: What should our internal project proposals look like? ==
* 1) Read bengo and jorrit's comments on loomio (https://www.loomio.org/d/YuC1wIps/how-we-make-decisions/8) and (https://www.loomio.org/d/YuC1wIps/how-we-make-decisions/11)
* 2) Discuss
** Going to start on loomio (ran out of time to discuss in person this week)

== Action Items ==
* find someone who's happy to climb towers to mount radio on richmond tower (ben's friend?)
** scott doesn't mind the heights
* see if we got a neighborly app receipt and put in google drive (benny)
* schedule psychz deprecation session with juul (benny)
* buy omni antennas (grant)
* e-mail paxio (juul)
* add ISOC proposal process to loomio discussion below (jenny)
* new loomio thread for defining project proposal template (benny)

== Breakout Groups ==
At the end of the meeting, break out into small groups to hack on or discuss specific topics.
* rooftop mounts
* airfiber + mesh
* more landlord/ISP ordinance chats

== Last Meeting Notes ==
* https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/25_September_2018

== End of Meeting ==
* please archive these meeting notes by copying the entire pad contents onto the sudomesh wiki with the correct date format: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/DD_MM_YYYY
* then please erase the contents of this pad
* then please cut & paste a blank template from here: https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Mesh/Mesh_Meeting_Notes_Template&action=edit
* previous meeting notes are archived here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes

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