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		<title>Bennlich: Created page with &quot;'People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 9 April 2019 7:30pm-9pm''' * https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy  === Agenda === * Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins...&quot;</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;&amp;#039;People&amp;#039;s Open Network Weekly Meeting - 9 April 2019 7:30pm-9pm&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; * https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy  === Agenda === * Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;'People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 9 April 2019 7:30pm-9pm'''&lt;br /&gt;
* https://omnicommons.org/wiki/Safer_Space_Policy&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Agenda ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Check in on previous action items (5 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Updates &amp;amp; Reportbacks (20 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Next Sunday (5 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Check in on ongoing projects (10 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Discussion: Next BYOI (15 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Weekly updates/check-ins (10 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Action Items (5 mins)&lt;br /&gt;
* Breakout Groups&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Introductions ===&lt;br /&gt;
Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements&lt;br /&gt;
* Icebreaker question: Most highly anticipated/favorite (tv) show/series?&lt;br /&gt;
* jenny - she/her - picard.&lt;br /&gt;
* robb - he/him - same, nothing else to say.&lt;br /&gt;
* null - he/him - Ozark season 2.&lt;br /&gt;
* mai - she/they - Game of Thrones (next[final??] season starts Sunday!)&lt;br /&gt;
* john-mark - he/they - Lucifer&lt;br /&gt;
* seth - he/they - Murder mountain&lt;br /&gt;
* ben - he/they - drawing a blank&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Meeting Roles ===&lt;br /&gt;
* Facilitator/s: Jenny&lt;br /&gt;
* Notetaker/s: eenblam, jnny, &lt;br /&gt;
** URL of this pad: https://peoplesopen.net/notes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Check in on previous action items ==&lt;br /&gt;
Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes and paste action items below:&lt;br /&gt;
* e-mail other community wifi groups about rooftop insurance @bennlich&lt;br /&gt;
** did it! See comms below. Two replies.&lt;br /&gt;
* revisit priorities brainstorm pad and report back @bennlich&lt;br /&gt;
** didn't do it&lt;br /&gt;
* poke ryan about marina @tunabananas&lt;br /&gt;
** think i did, no reply will ping again&lt;br /&gt;
* handshake tokens @juul&lt;br /&gt;
** did it, waiting for longer followup &lt;br /&gt;
* ping david and niki re: sunday @tunabananas&lt;br /&gt;
** robb and i will go over this week&lt;br /&gt;
* create wiki page about EMF radiation @sierk @tunabananas&lt;br /&gt;
** jnny will start that tonight&lt;br /&gt;
* any reply from LOLSpace? @tunabananas&lt;br /&gt;
** no &amp;gt;_&amp;gt; will ping again, try another person&lt;br /&gt;
* document battery-powered node in a waterproof bag @juul&lt;br /&gt;
** not sure if published&lt;br /&gt;
* understand how people get peoplesopen.net e-mail addresses&lt;br /&gt;
** DONE&lt;br /&gt;
* e-mail bayside commons coa about putting an antenna on the rood @iamai&lt;br /&gt;
** bump&lt;br /&gt;
* coordinate w/ null about HE exitnode fix @bennlich&lt;br /&gt;
** worked w/ null! HE node is just about ready to go&lt;br /&gt;
* Look at room calendar for Oakland libraries @iamai&lt;br /&gt;
** mai: done weeks ago! We already have the big room booked for May 4th. ~150ppl capacity&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Weekly updates/check-ins ==&lt;br /&gt;
Check previous meeting minutes at https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes and paste weekly update items below:&lt;br /&gt;
* Hurricane Electric server is ready to go! and null has the exit node script github branch for 18.04 &lt;br /&gt;
* Internet Archive link&lt;br /&gt;
** via Sierk: Cal Sailing Club has open house events on one Sunday a month - maybe a next BYOI? - Dates: May 19, June 16, July 21, August 18, September 15, October 20, November 17 &lt;br /&gt;
** john mark spoke with his neighbor (who has LoS to Omni... JM has LoS to Archive)&lt;br /&gt;
** Talked to his neighbor about mounting an antenna on their property, they had concerns about RF&lt;br /&gt;
* Paxio link&lt;br /&gt;
** Smeone was going to follow up&lt;br /&gt;
** Benny: Sent email to Matt, Tim pozar a few hours ago, cc'd mai, juul&lt;br /&gt;
* Golden gate paxio link&lt;br /&gt;
** Benny: Same thread as above&lt;br /&gt;
* People's Park&lt;br /&gt;
* ToMesh Workshop &lt;br /&gt;
** mai: It happened on Saturday. It was great and Ben (of ToMesh) is great&lt;br /&gt;
*** we meshed some raspberry pis, looked at their very thorough and well-laid out materials: https://tomeshnet.github.io/p2p-internet-workshop/&lt;br /&gt;
*** maybe we can use some of their materials for the next BYOI&lt;br /&gt;
*** Discussed planning info for dweb camp. That's happening here: https://github.com/dweb-camp-2019&lt;br /&gt;
* Laptops&lt;br /&gt;
** 10 repaired, more ready to go, 3 distro'd - need more time to solicit more donations&lt;br /&gt;
* Mobile Citizen&lt;br /&gt;
** jenny: Emailed them back to see about getting bandwidth from them&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Other Updates &amp;amp; Reportbacks ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Blog post on using signal from a server for notifications: https://blog.funkthat.com/2019/04/using-signal-on-server.html&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Bugs/Technical ===&lt;br /&gt;
Recent issues: https://peoplesopen.net/issues. For a list of recent Github activity, see the widget at the bottom of https://peoplesopen.net/learn/development/.&lt;br /&gt;
* null: Updated exit node script &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Node Mounts &amp;amp; Outreach ===&lt;br /&gt;
Node Mounts Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/DtzngKaM/49e1c21fc9da199fcdeceb8623b5117a/node-mounts&lt;br /&gt;
* Upcoming location surveys&lt;br /&gt;
** Cassady â€” Mead Ave x San Pablo in No. West Oakland&lt;br /&gt;
*** Who can go this Sunday 14 April? seth, null , maybe jnny&lt;br /&gt;
** Rabbit â€” Tulare Ave x Marin Ave in Berkeley&lt;br /&gt;
*** Flexible time&lt;br /&gt;
*** Tuesday 16 April: seth, jenny, mai&lt;br /&gt;
*** We'll need to bring an N750&lt;br /&gt;
**** Mai will respond&lt;br /&gt;
** Laurie in Claremont Hills?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Maybe this is visible from campanile/elsewhere in Berkeley?&lt;br /&gt;
*** seth will cc  on reply - mai free sat and next tuesday&lt;br /&gt;
** Seth - Jingletown(adam) this friday at 10am. I'm going.&lt;br /&gt;
** seth - 5th ave (chad) going friday as well to mount node on mast.&lt;br /&gt;
* Lesley: Hillegass-Parker house has home node, wants to do RF test. Should probably have two people for that.&lt;br /&gt;
** eenblam: RF test for radiation in the house, or connection to some other site?&lt;br /&gt;
*** eenblam: we should replace the nanostation at benvenue&lt;br /&gt;
*** Lesley: I'll forward you his emial. He wants the cables well-shielded, etc. From our end, we also need to figure out what to connect to--they can clearly see the campanile, maybe 5ghz could curve down to parts of people's park, can't see my neighbor&lt;br /&gt;
*** Sounds good! Thanks&lt;br /&gt;
* Tyler: Possible extension @ WB6NDJ Repeater site near KPFA FM (good place to do a realistic range test on 60GHZ)&lt;br /&gt;
** Lesley: Yes! I'd also been meaning to ask you about the campanile. (Is that the same location or in the same neighborhood?)&lt;br /&gt;
** John-mark also has good visibility to KPFA (about 2 miles away)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Communications &amp;amp; Events ===&lt;br /&gt;
Comms Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/f3ugMPNU/94033ee6c2cef93fc1b1637b727c902a/sudo-mesh-communications // Events Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/Y3XfDK85/2b6fcb4fa92788609692a53a96fb4614/peoples-open-events&lt;br /&gt;
* Benny: I asked NYC mesh and Detroit Community Technology Project about what insurance they use. Links to e-mail threads:&lt;br /&gt;
** https://trello.com/c/cUK5gEQm/521-nyc-mesh-thread-for-insurance-advice&lt;br /&gt;
** Benny: from nyc mesh: We use The Hartford. You can fill in an application online- https://smallbizquote.thehartford.com/app/index.html#/form/begin&lt;br /&gt;
It's 4 years since we did this, but from memory it was straight forward and only around $200/year. Once you have it you can order COIs for specific properties for no extra charge. I'll email you an example. (See Trello link for example)&lt;br /&gt;
** https://trello.com/c/9Ko16MP3/522-thread-w-anderson-from-detroit-community-technology-for-insurance-advice&lt;br /&gt;
** Benny: Detroit community Tech email is hard to summarize but they use Philadelphia Insurance Company. They don't have any special &amp;quot;roof mounting insurance&amp;quot; tho.&lt;br /&gt;
^_&lt;br /&gt;
*** jenny sez yes and sorry she deleted the above line ^&lt;br /&gt;
* Mai: Update on neighbor outreach flyer&lt;br /&gt;
** (stick around to see draft after)&lt;br /&gt;
** Problem Statement, What We Do, How It Works, How to Join, FAQ (health concerns, privacy concerns)&lt;br /&gt;
* Lesley: as Jenny's getting paid by the Omni, I withdraw my proposal to pay her on behalf of the Omni. Or, as Null blocked it first, I guess that counts and I don't have to follow up with my input :p&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Internal Logistics / Finance ===&lt;br /&gt;
Internal Logistics &amp;amp; Bureaucracy Trello: https://trello.com/invite/b/LzVQlW3X/1bb8bd543c8633688175365d2554c2c2/internal-logistics-bureaucracy-brainstorms&lt;br /&gt;
* 2019 Board Meeting: Loomio poll results are in - April 23, replacing our admin meeting&lt;br /&gt;
* Need to consent on lease agreement with Omni and Sudo Room, our monthly contribution etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* need to buy MyNet N750 &lt;br /&gt;
** $30 https://www.rakuten.com/shop/grassroots-computers/product/WDBAJA0000NWTRECF/ &lt;br /&gt;
** $25 https://www.ebay.com/p/Western-Digital-My-Net-N750-450-Mbps-4-Port-Gigabit-Wireless-N-Router-WDBAJA0000NWT/115385146&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Next Sunday ==&lt;br /&gt;
We host office hours every Sunday from 1-3pm in Sudo Room to talk to people, work on sudomesh projects, and schedule node mounts. &lt;br /&gt;
* To sign up to bottomline, fill in your name here: https://ethercalc.org/byoi_office_hours&lt;br /&gt;
* Ongoing node mounting spreadsheet is located at: https://peoplesopen.net/sundays&lt;br /&gt;
* Notes from this past Sunday's session &lt;br /&gt;
* This coming Sunday 14 April: Cassady node mount&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Example Proposal ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Lumbragolonga: I propose that for one week we communicate exclusively via paper airplane. Here's why...&lt;br /&gt;
* '''Consenso?'''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Example Discussion Item ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Gormavax: I wanna chat about the recent influx of spotted pigeon-dactyls in the Martian exosphere...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Discussion Item: Next BYOI ==&lt;br /&gt;
* Trello Board (w/ events assets) - https://trello.com/b/Y3XfDK85/peoples-open-events&lt;br /&gt;
* Publicity and outreach&lt;br /&gt;
** East Bay Express - @mux will look into it&lt;br /&gt;
*** https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/byoi-jan-2018&lt;br /&gt;
*** https://peoplesopen.net/pad/p/byoi-blurbs&lt;br /&gt;
* Trainings and programs&lt;br /&gt;
** eenblam: most people who work on the project aren't very familiar with the firmware, this would be a beginners' training on using OpenWRT, setting up a router and make sure everything routes through Tor&lt;br /&gt;
** intro talks about the project&lt;br /&gt;
*** How the internet works&lt;br /&gt;
*** How mesh networks work&lt;br /&gt;
*** Demo re: the mesh with N600's and routers&lt;br /&gt;
** crimp a cable/cat5&lt;br /&gt;
** Q/A board&lt;br /&gt;
*** What would you like to see in a local Oakland mesh? What do you hate about your internet subscription? What do you use for the internet?&lt;br /&gt;
** Go around the room and intros&lt;br /&gt;
*** What are you interested in learning about today?&lt;br /&gt;
*** What would you like to share with others about what you have? Not even mesh/internet related, what would you like to share as resources?&lt;br /&gt;
** Community asset mapping&lt;br /&gt;
*** jenny: Will talk to east oakland collective about what they do&lt;br /&gt;
** seth: Check in towards the end, Q&amp;amp;A &lt;br /&gt;
** robb: network management tools, show how packets travel around&lt;br /&gt;
* Materials&lt;br /&gt;
** Commotion Wireless&lt;br /&gt;
** Video URLs&lt;br /&gt;
* Food?&lt;br /&gt;
* Our goals?&lt;br /&gt;
** Having more people in West Oakland with nodes and get them on our location survey list&lt;br /&gt;
** Understanding what people in West Oakland need/want, for us to learn and hear from them&lt;br /&gt;
*** Develop relationships with people. Create artifacts of making those connections (contact cards).&lt;br /&gt;
** Better followup with attendees&lt;br /&gt;
* Re-name the event?&lt;br /&gt;
** Networks, Our, Community, Grow, Home-grown internet, Connecting the Town, Home-grown networks, DIY networks, grassroots internet, Connect the Town, 510pen, CIGAR (community internet growers association retreat), BYOI (keep it!)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Action Items ==&lt;br /&gt;
Copy and paste from previous action items above, delete completed ones, and add new ones:&lt;br /&gt;
* document battery-powered node in a waterproof bag @juul&lt;br /&gt;
* revisit priorities brainstorm pad and report back @bennlich&lt;br /&gt;
* poke ryan about marina @tunabananas&lt;br /&gt;
* ping david and niki re: sunday @tunabananas&lt;br /&gt;
* create wiki page about EMF radiation @sierk @tunabananas&lt;br /&gt;
* any reply from LOLSpace? @tunabananas&lt;br /&gt;
* hook up exit node server @ hurricane electric @null @bennlich&lt;br /&gt;
* purchase some N750s&lt;br /&gt;
* purchase some usb to network dongles (USB-C version and Regular USB)  @null&lt;br /&gt;
* email board and potential directors about annual meeting @tunabananas&lt;br /&gt;
* coordinate for sunday - @seth &lt;br /&gt;
* send doodle out for office hours Sunday 4/14 @null&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Breakout Groups ==&lt;br /&gt;
At the end of the meeting, break out into small groups to hack on or discuss specific topics.&lt;br /&gt;
* &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Last Meeting Notes ==&lt;br /&gt;
* link to previous meeting minutes&lt;br /&gt;
* https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/26_March_2019&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== End of Meeting ==&lt;br /&gt;
* please archive these meeting notes by copying the entire pad contents onto the sudomesh wiki with the correct date format: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/DD_MONTH_YYYY&lt;br /&gt;
* then please erase the contents of this pad&lt;br /&gt;
* then please cut &amp;amp; paste a blank template from here: https://sudoroom.org/mediawiki/index.php?title=Mesh/Mesh_Meeting_Notes_Template&amp;amp;action=edit&lt;br /&gt;
* previous meeting notes are archived here: https://sudoroom.org/wiki/Mesh/Minutes&lt;br /&gt;
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