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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;3 revisions: uploads deprecated wiki from Hackerspaces.org pages beginning with /Sudo_room/&lt;/p&gt;
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==Gems==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Things written in the margins'''&lt;br /&gt;
* Sudo-Agent as concept of &amp;quot;participant&amp;quot; in Sudo Room!&lt;br /&gt;
* (there was one more element of marginalia I can't recall...)&lt;br /&gt;
* ''&amp;quot;What's on the Wiki Counts&amp;quot;''&lt;br /&gt;
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==Attending==&lt;br /&gt;
Jenny, Timon, Rachel, Eddie, Victoria, Marina, Micheal, Greg, Eddan, Matt&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
'''Agenda'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;0. Introductions&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;1. Decision Making&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;2. Finding a Space&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* + Community Bank of the Bay&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;'''Notes:'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;1.1 Decision Making&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Topics:&lt;br /&gt;
** '''Membership.''' Do we have it? If so, what are the levels/ benefits/ rules of engagement &amp;amp; expectations?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Membership and Governance are related.&lt;br /&gt;
**** Governance is a superstructure of Membership&lt;br /&gt;
**** Paying Membership get voting rights? Or setup a timebank system?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Lets define a what a member is&lt;br /&gt;
**** Qualitifations&lt;br /&gt;
***** Rite of Passage&lt;br /&gt;
****** technoshamanic rituals :P&lt;br /&gt;
***** Financial Contribution&lt;br /&gt;
***** Time bank&lt;br /&gt;
****** Anthony Di Franco BACE.org&lt;br /&gt;
*** Honorary membership?&lt;br /&gt;
*** Representative Do-ocracy?&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''Project Endorsement.''' When does SudoRoom attach its name and &amp;quot;backing&amp;quot; to a project, if ever?&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''Governance.''' How do we make decisions on behalf of SudoRoom? Are financially-concerned decisions different or do they involve a different group of people vs. other kinds?&lt;br /&gt;
** Is it more important to setup governance first?&lt;br /&gt;
** Heuristics: make only neccessary decisions&lt;br /&gt;
** Are we going to register as non-profit (501(c)3)? This will determine legal structure&lt;br /&gt;
** Examples: How do you pay rent? Insurance?&lt;br /&gt;
** What are the possible legal structures? Pros and Cons&lt;br /&gt;
*** 501 (c) 3&lt;br /&gt;
*** LLC&lt;br /&gt;
*** Corporation&lt;br /&gt;
**** B-Corporation: http://bcorp.com&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''Activities''' (non-hacking). Will SudoRoom have speakers/ events/ classes? What system or structure do we put in place to facilitate this? Do others need to agree on any aspects of these &amp;quot;extracurricular&amp;quot; activities?&lt;br /&gt;
** What is the culture?&lt;br /&gt;
** How do you establish a culture?&lt;br /&gt;
** How do you regulate the flow of new people to ensure the establishment of culture&lt;br /&gt;
** Vision/Goods/Culture&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''META and BUSINESS decisions'''&lt;br /&gt;
** Rent? Utilities? Insurance? Liabilities? Changes to group structure? Dissolution?&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;'''1.2. Who makes these decisions?'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Qualifications:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;-Application: can range from asking how to be a member or a project proposal or rite of passage (below)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;-Rite of Passage: demonstrates committment / reliability / follow-through (consistency)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;-Alternative currencies:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* -Time Bank (contact Anthony Di Franco)&lt;br /&gt;
* -OurVolts (Anca &amp;amp; James, Drupal)&lt;br /&gt;
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-Recommendation (trust-based referall network)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;-Honorary Membership&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;-Agreement - opportunity for accountability&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;**Assessing whether people are &amp;quot;being Sudo or not&amp;quot; (Rachel)&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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-Representative Do-ocracy&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;1.3 How are these decisions made?&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;-Consensus&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;-Representative Do-ocracy&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;1.4 Where and when are these decisions made?&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* '''Options:'''&lt;br /&gt;
* Online (proposals and concerns?)&lt;br /&gt;
* Weekly meetings (agenda and discussion?)&lt;br /&gt;
* delay/schedule for introduction &amp;amp; decision making, allowing for asynchronous discussion &amp;amp; predictable decision making cycle&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2. Money Making'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Three broad categories of income-generation:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;2.1. membership&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;2.2. goods/services&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;2.3. fundraising/crowdsourcing&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;2.1. membership&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;what are the advantages, if any to membership? to what extent should financial contribution be separate from 1) governance privileges 2) access to the space&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* if there is agreement on separating financial membership from access/votes, how do you solve the perception of the &amp;quot;usual&amp;quot; definition of member (ie, many people understand membership as paying x for y privileges).&lt;br /&gt;
* can an alternate term be more useful to avoid the &amp;quot;usual&amp;quot; perception of membership? here are some alternate terms!: participant, affiliate, joiner, building block, supporter, sudo-agent (this term got a lot of support)&lt;br /&gt;
* instead of defining benefits of membership, define responsibilities of membership?&lt;br /&gt;
* logistics&lt;br /&gt;
** membership amount ($50-100, sliding scale?)&lt;br /&gt;
** in-kind options vs just cash; is there a need for this; a list of trades? (services exist that allow management of this kind of setup: timebank, ourvolts)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;2.2 goods/services&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* examples: classes, events, conferences, speakers, skillshares, workshops, movie nights, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
* sudoers have a lot of talent and can offer many possible services/events/goods that can be used to raise money.&lt;br /&gt;
* membership and fundraising interacts with this type of income&lt;br /&gt;
** selling goods/services can fuel and support membership (ie, members can provide goods/host events/teach classes/act as speakers + these activities can bring new members)&lt;br /&gt;
** maybe members are ones who can initiate classes, speakers, and other group projects&lt;br /&gt;
** goods/services provided can inform viability of grants/crowdfunding&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;**does charging for these opportunities run counter to the sudo open + accessible principle?&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;2.3 fundraising&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* examples: grants (foundation, city/state/govt), crowd-funding, corporate, investment, donations&lt;br /&gt;
* kickstarter-esque campaigns have been discussed in meetings in the past and have received support&lt;br /&gt;
* fundraising is time-consuming and difficult and will be more likely if membership is solid (also, goods/services provided by the community can inform the viability of grants/crowdfunding)&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;donate&amp;quot; button on the site is a good minimum option&lt;br /&gt;
* crowdfunding vs funding portal (eg; Sudo Room as Kickstarter Project vs. Sudo Room as Kickstarter :)&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;'''Key points tabled:'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* How do we demonstrate transparency, the moment of decision-making/consensus? (Eddan)&lt;br /&gt;
* We should discuss our autodocumentation meta-strategy :) (Jenny)&lt;br /&gt;
* Talked to Anthony Di Franco about democratizing our tax model and cooperative voluntary equity/revenue share&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;---------------------------ACTION ITEMS---------------------------&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;'''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;''&amp;quot;What's on the Wiki Counts&amp;quot;''&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;1. Model + Budget + Income investigations (e.g Noisebridge, other)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;2. Tax Structure Options: Eddan, Matt, Eddie&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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* Timon - Zoning&lt;br /&gt;
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3. Distilling Decision Maker/Community Options (Matt, Marina, Rachel, Jenny, Timon)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Will work on tonight (May 16)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;4. Most transparent process [#3]&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;5. Determining important deadlines&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;6. Clean up listing of table of properties (Eddie, Matt)&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;Eddan spoke to Debra Acosta about realstate and had a place that he was interested in and it fell through. it's important to keep track of contacts&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Matt</name></author>
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