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People's Open Network Weekly Meeting - 27 November 2018 7:30pm-9pm


  • Introductions and Meeting Roles (10 mins)
  • Check in on previous action items (5 mins)
  • Updates & Reportbacks (20 mins)
  • Next Sunday (5 mins)
  • Action Items (5 mins)
  • Breakout Groups


Introduce yourself: Name; Preferred Pronoun; Icebreaker Response; BRIEF Announcements

  • Icebreaker question: What brings you here?
  • benny - he/they, been involved since Feb, works on various things such as posters, is going to pick up his interview project again
  • stephen - friend of benny's - visiting to work with cal fire - how do you have open mesh networks, phone-to-phone, especially in evacuation situations
  • colin - he/him - interesting project, doesn't have a lot of bandwidth but is interested in organizing, etc.
  • stephen - he/him - interested in wireless communications & embedded software
  • andre - he/him - interested in distributed systems, specifically databases
  • null - he/him - help build the gap between tech in major isps & what we do
  • mai - she/they - involved with organzing, node mounts, byoi events. Interested in this because of digital rights, interested in solidarity economy
  • amanda - she/her - excited about mesh networking on broader scale, for homeless, etc.
  • lesley - been involved since ~2013 - when i was a kid i had really restricted internet access because of religious reasons - it was really controlled - i remember how big of a difference it made for me to have access to that information, and want to make this happen for others - did some research with marc on sunday and we're planning to mount some 60GHz equipment on rooftops in berkeley
  • juul - he/him - the bart train (i'm omw)
  • remote-jnny - she/her - visiting family on east coast and this is errybody else's bedtime, hooray! also mesh the planet.

Meeting Roles


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Check in on previous action items

Check previous meeting minutes at and past action items below:

  • Contact potential node in East Bay Hills (deep east) (jenny)
    • gah, this wuz sitting in drafts >_< - sent
  • Follow up w/ paxio (juul)
    • haven't heard back yet
  • Schedule a meeting to reflect on BYOI feedback?
    • mai - let's just talk about it today
  • null - review decision making guides
  • Measure power output of our gear (server + switch for internet archive)
    • done w/ juul and null (180W during boot-up, 160W during `stress --cpu 2, server was between 120 and 140`)
    • time to try to schedule an install?
      • benny will check with juul if we're ready

Purchase requests

  • 60 Ghz gear
  • Archive storage and web server for
    • radiowitness is a system that listens to all police communication using a software defined radio, logs everything with a timestamp and makes it publicly available
    • radiowitness was previously deployed in oakland and texas but the way it was written required a very beefy and power hungry computer to run it 24/7 + the storage got expensive
    • radiowitness is currently down but the creator (an old sudo room and sudo mesh member) wants to bring it back
    • I (juul) offered that we could potentially host the data (and possibly the web app as well)
    • For two cities it was growing by ~500 GB per year. The idea is to add more cities.
    • I propose we put the multi-harddrive-bay storage server we already have at Internet Archive and buy the following:
    • 3x 4 TB internal harddrives at $125 each for an 8 TB raid 5 that we can grow to 36 TB later
    • 1x 8 TB external archive harddrive at $150 for offline backup. We can run the offline backup each Tuesday evening during the meeting.

Updates & Reportbacks


   Priority bugs we need help with are located at: - For a high-level overview of recent Github activity, see the Trello:
  • lesley: juul got a back of 60 GHz antenna, for south of Cal campus. We were gonna use 24 GHz for the Richmond Tower link, shouldn't we just use the 60 GHz antenna since that allows a greater transfer of bandwidth? Is it a power requirement?
  • juul: Was told by someone who was at DevSummit to use the equipment/bandwidth that Calyx buys wholesale for Sprint 4G, to get cheaper bandwidth -- $200/year vs. $400/year (for Calyx)

Node Mounts & Outreach

Node Mounts Trello:

  • benny: Met someone that lives next to Lesley near the Benvenue location. Will connect Lesley with them.
  • lesley: Seems like a good lead since we can't put that much equipment at Jeff's place at Benvenue. Someone from BYOI thought that they might have LoS to us.
  • jnny: leads i got from the mapping station include a southeast alameda landlord, CalState East Bay contact, and someone with potential LoS to Paxio from the east (past Ed's & slightly north)

Communications & Events

Comms Trello: // Events Trello:

BYOI Reflection Time

Internal Logistics / Finance

Internal Logistics & Bureaucracy Trello:

Next Sunday

We host office hours every Sunday from 1-3pm in Sudo Room, and often arrange a rooftop node mount.

Action Items

  • add everyone who signed up at the BYOI to the PON newsletter list, and let them know about the mesh mailing list (benny)
  • encourage people to submit a proposal for $ and add to next's week agenda (mai)
  • post re: richmond tower link on SF Chalkboard (mai)
  • double check w/ juul then send e-mail to jonah to schedule server install (benny)
  • add people who signed up at BYOI to email list (benny)
  • talk to the people that calyx gets internet from
  • implement calyx hotspot @ the housing & dignity village! - jenny / juul? mux? & village building crew
    • currently waiting on word back from judge re: permanent injunction

Breakout Groups

At the end of the meeting, break out into small groups to hack on or discuss specific topics.

Last Meeting Notes

End of Meeting