[sudo-access] keeping front door unlatched for "entry hall building permit"

[David Keenan]

Awesome thank you Patrik - for inspection, technically it should be mudded,
but it doesn't have to be painted. Just one sanded layer of mud is ok,
doesn't have to be multi layers of mud or perfectly smooth etc.

If we can't get it extended again looks like we'll have to have it
inspected Thursday which I believe is the deadline? If we don't pass I
believe the permit is automatically extended but then we may have to prepay
for the followup inspection of that is needed ($160)

Best,
David

On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 11:41 AM Patrik D'haeseleer <patrikd at gmail.com>
wrote:

> The hole in the hallway is on my list of stuff to fix asap. Just need to
> nail some slats to the studs to make up for the thickness of the wooden
> boards that we cut out. I'll see if I can get on to that today.
>
> Does it needs to be mudded and painted in time for the inspection as well?
> Or is closing up the hole with drywall enough for that?
>
> Patrik
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 11:33 AM, David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Robb - cool. so all the signs that were ordered at least, are mounted?
>
> Joe - CCL's plumbing permit was tipped in to main B permit. Plumbing was
> finalled, but a section of the drywall in the hallway to 48th st was cut
> away to allow me he work, and has yet to be replaced. It's true this area
> is not shown within the area of work on the planset, but, if the inspector
> sees it he won't final it as for ex. holes like this technically pose a
> fire hazard (allows fire to get inside wall.)
>
> In addition I noted a somewhat obvious non compliant light switch behind
> the cafe counter. If the inspector sees this, even though that is also not
> in the area of work, they will also not pass the final. We should fix that
> (should be quick.)
>
> we can always try for a final in spite of the above - judgement call..
>
> Did we get any exterior Accessibility signs up? When I went on Sat to
> panel I didn't see any but maybe I missed them..?
>
> Exterior signs are I believe called out on the Accessibility worksheet I
> linked to earlier and I think also mentioned by an inspector on the job
> card?
>
> Not sure how many prepaid inspections we have left so I was thinking we
> may wanna mitigate -
>
> I realize it expires in 3 days right so to the extent we can still prep,
> we should do so soon. Maybe sched an inspection on the 12th?
>
> Best
> David
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 9:43 AM joseph liesner <blue393 at lmi.net> wrote:
>
> Where is this hole you are refering to.  Our permit
> is for the rear, west, wall and 8ft of the North wall
> abutting the west wall.
> joe
>
> On Jan 9, 2017, at 2:51 AM, David Keenan wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> Has all the Accessibility signage been mounted, do you know?
>
> We need to close up the hole in the hallway wall as well before scheduling
> the final. Is anyone planning on doing that yet?
>
> Best
> David
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 9:00 PM David Keenan <dkeenan44 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> 7pm
>
> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 6:56 PM joseph liesner <blue393 at lmi.net> wrote:
>
> What time will you all be at Omni on Monday.
> joe
>
> On Jan 6, 2017, at 4:49 PM, David Keenan wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Omg. Thank you all so much for working on this!
>
> (CC'ing Maureen & Yar who are planning to meet up with me & Tara Monday,
> to talk about our longer-term accessibility plan).
>
> Fwiw I don't know if the keycard access is ADA-compliant or not. If I had
> to guess, I suspect it is compliant since folks swipe at grocery stores and
> other mandatory-accessible places -- and as long the swipe is not mounted
> too high up, which I don't think it is -- but, I've never looked into that
> specifically so I can't say for. Something to look up.
>
> I can't think of anything non-compliant about having a locked door,
> openable by the electronic / swipe system. IE my understanding is, when the
> card is swiped, the throw is engaged and the door can be opened by just
> pushing down on the handle. The outstanding issue is likely the amount of
> force required to then open the door which last I checked was
> >5lb/pressure.
>
> On this tip BTW I also went over this week and renewed our associated,
> recently expired electrical E permit that I realized would have also
> prevented us from finalling this B permit (I think we forgot to extend the
> electrical with the building permit so it expired, cost to renew: $205) so
> now there is no block in that respect either..
>
> Our new/old E permit for the record: ​
>  E1700088 Elec Permit ext.of E1601588_2017-01-04...
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByjR12L1MEjCWmU1cms3OExCRUE/view?usp=drive_web>
> ​
> Yay, the signs arrived? Joe, that's great! I don't think I ever heard back
> as to whether they were ordered so I'm relieved to hear it -
>
> Re: fulfilling the entryway accessibility requirements in general, first
> it might be a good idea to briefly skim the B permit's accessibility
> worksheet as submitted (quick): ​
>  Accessibility Worksheet - cafe area - FINAL AS ...
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByjR12L1MEjCUllwQ0RaRFppM1E/view?usp=drive_web>
> ​
> Some things on this worksheet we're not gonna do right now, like the
> kickplate for example -- since, even if we have it on hand (which I think
> we do?) installation makes little sense to me at least without the
> automatic opener it's supposed to activate -- while installing a
> nonfunctional button like this would actually open us up to increased
> liability, compared to not having it..
>
> But hopefully the signage will allow us to schedule the final inspection,
> close our sole open complaint and then finally be done with it :)
>
> It should be said though that, since as I understand it, we will now have
> accessibility signage outside advertising the corner door an accessible
> entrance, we are at significantly increased risk of accessibility or code
> complaint, since the corner door is not yet actually legally accessible.
>
> The most noticeable aspects being: last I checked:
>
> ..still >5lb opening pressure for the wider door,
>
> ..>2% grade in the front landing, and
>
> ..the sidelight door is also very hard to open (i think the closer is
> mis-adjusted for that smaller door)
>
> Therefore, IMO with the signs up we really do have to make that door
> actually accessible ie install an automatic opener --
>
> Earlier this year, I got a quote on that for materials & labor (primarily
> in order to help Mary Ann prepare for an accessibility grant): ​
>  Platform Lifts & Opener Quote LAS 2016-11-07.pdf
> <https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByjR12L1MEjCZkZxRmxEMEdteTQ/view?usp=drive_web>
> ​
> The 'Open Sesame' opener listed in the above quote is $2800 -- half of
> that cost is labor, warranty, code compliance stuff. (The other stuff is to
> e.g. replace our residential platform lift with a commercial one, if the
> one jerry had stored for us is no longer available..) I do hear these
> openers break down all the time so it might be worth it but we should think
> about getting this done IMO.
>
> To this end I would propose if we have any extra funds (such as from the
> excess ~$30K from the $1M stock donation?), we have these contractors out
> to install the opener and then we no longer need to worry about having a
> genuinely accessible front entrance since it will provide equivalent
> accommodation re: the opening force & exterior grade.
>
> my 2c -
>
> Thank you Joe!!
>
> Best,
> David
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM, joseph liesner <blue393 at lmi.net> wrote:
>
> yes  Jake, that is a very nice option to have.  Robb does not think
> we need to do that for our inspection next week . What do you think David?
> I'll check further and let you  Jake, know if we  need to use that option.
> Thanks so much
> joe
> On Jan 6, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Jake wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> do you mean you want the door to remain unlocked for certain periods of
> time?
>
> we can program the computer to simply keep the latch activated for hours
> at a
> time, that's easy.
>
> -jake
>
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2017, joseph liesner wrote:
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> I am about to start hanging the access signs required
>
> to close out our entry hall building permit.
>
> I can only assume that for the inspection the access
>
> door on the corner of Shattuck and 48th should open
>
> just by holding the lever handle down then pulling
>
> (no key or card needed).
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> Please let me know how to make this possible.
>
> Thanks
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