[sudo-access] door to sudoroom/ccl

[David Keenan]

Oh right.. yeah probably got moved down there in advance of the fire
inspection.

If Enoch is back from Cuba, I'll ask if he has any time for hanging it -

Best,
David

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 6:09 PM Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

according to Matt:

"The correct door that fits there is currently in the pile of materials

in the basement."



On Tue, 17 Jan 2017, David Keenan wrote:



> +1 for what Kaje said if anyone in the Building WG wants to start

> coordinating this?

>

> Jake, is the door still nearby?

>

> Best,

> David

>

> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 12:53 AM Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

>

>> i think the entrance to sudo/ccl should have a door before we bother

>> putting a

>>

>> card reader.

>>

>>

>>

>> the door that had been there was removed, because it swung inwards, which

>> is

>>

>> unacceptable for an emergency exit.  The door needs to be re-installed

>> with the

>>

>> hinges swinging outward, so that in case an emergency happens in sudo/ccl

>>

>> people can just flood outward.

>>

>>

>>

>> after the door is installed that way, with a panic bar (not a regular

>> doorknob)

>>

>> we can install a card reader.

>>

>>

>>

>> -jake

>>

>>

>>

>> On Mon, 16 Jan 2017, Maureen Muldavin wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>> If you are working on RFID cards any possibility that the entrance to

>>

>>> sudo/ccl could get a card reader? Been wanting access control for

>>

>>> awhile.

>>

>>>

>>

>>> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 11:46 PM, Jake <jake at spaz.org> wrote:

>>

>>>> i brought in a wheelchair motor a while ago that I think could be made

>> into

>>

>>>> a

>>

>>>> power door-opener pretty well.

>>

>>>>

>>

>>>> I can work on a proof-of-concept for that and then be able to show you

>> what

>>

>>>> I

>>

>>>> mean, and then we can see if it will be good enough for our needs as

>> opposed

>>

>>>> to

>>

>>>> spending $2800 on a "proper" door opener.

>>

>>>>

>>

>>>> as for the RFID cards, Alex and I have been working on implementing the

>> card

>>

>>>> reader thing for a little while and I think I can add it to the front

>> door

>>

>>>> pretty relatively easily.., and I guess i'll do that first, rather than

>>

>>>> trying

>>

>>>> to do a storage closet first?

>>

>>>>

>>

>>>> as always, if anyone wants to participate in this process they should

>>

>>>> definitely jump in, otherwise it's subject to my chaotic schedule.

>>

>>>>

>>

>>>> technical questions about making this happen should be sent to the

>> access

>>

>>>> list

>>

>>>> and possibly the sudoroom list, but probably not the building list as
it

>>

>>>> will

>>

>>>> be a major distraction if we get into the weeds of microcontroller

>> boards

>>

>>>> and

>>

>>>> door server code...

>>

>>>>

>>

>>>> also, yes I do have the box of RFID stuff you ordered and i've been

>> working

>>

>>>> on

>>

>>>> it~

>>

>>>>

>>

>>>> -jake

>>

>>>>

>>

>>>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2017, David Keenan wrote:

>>

>>>>

>>

>>>>> Hi Jake / access control folks -

>>

>>>>>

>>

>>>>> So now that our front door is publicly labelled as accessible, we need

>> to

>>

>>>>> install an automatic door opener & remote button (kickplate &

>> hand-height

>>

>>>>> or a long bar) to make it legal.

>>

>>>>>

>>

>>>>> Reason I bring this up to you guys is, the opener system will need to

>>

>>>>> integrate into our existing/future access control somehow. The quote I

>> got

>>

>>>>> is $2800 (50% parts, 50% labor) for a package including the Open
Sesame

>>

>>>>> Model 233 (brochure

>>

>>>>> <

>> http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/open_sesame_brochure.pdf>,

>>

>>>>> spec

>>

>>>>> sheet <

>> http://www.opensesamedoor.com/index_htm_files/specs_model233.pdf>),

>>

>>>>>

>>

>>>>> made in San Leandro.

>>

>>>>>

>>

>>>>> Also, some of us met last week re: sketching out Omni's accessibility

>>

>>>>> plan,

>>

>>>>> and Yar suggested this might be a good time to also implement RFID

>> system

>>

>>>>> for the front door, if that was possible? In part because, proximity

>> to an

>>

>>>>> RFID fob is more accessible than a card swipe which (after thinking

>> about

>>

>>>>> it) I realized requires a pincing motion that is likely not ADA...

>> because

>>

>>>>> of the excessive door opening pressure and iffy slope on the front

>>

>>>>> landing,

>>

>>>>> we need an RFID & auto-opener.

>>

>>>>>

>>

>>>>> So -- I'm not sure if any more work has been done on the RFID systems
I

>>

>>>>> put

>>

>>>>> in sudo a little while ago (stashed in under-stair storage area),

>> might it

>>

>>>>> be possible to integrate these into the door opener? I note in the

>>

>>>>> brochure

>>

>>>>> they offer a keypad access option - perhaps an opportunity for
2-factor

>>

>>>>> authentication like Marc had talked about? Anyhow what do you guys

>> think?

>>

>>>>>

>>

>>>>> I apologize for not helping y'all more with a better access control

>> system

>>

>>>>> (helping spaces post-ghostship consumed my bandwidth), but as there is

>> now

>>

>>>>> renewed pressure I want to help as I can. Would installing a trial

>>

>>>>> RFID/throw on the Omni Office for example still be helpful towards

>> getting

>>

>>>>> this nailed down? Lmk

>>

>>>>>

>>

>>>>> Fwiw - I see the opener as pressing at this point not just 'cause its

>> long

>>

>>>>> overdue, but because every day our front door is labelled as
accessible

>>

>>>>> when it's technically not, is actually a not-insignificant liability

>> issue

>>

>>>>> (accessibility lawsuit). Plus of course, we are still under scrutiny
by

>>

>>>>> the

>>

>>>>> city, nimby neighbors trying to call us out for bogus reasons, etc
etc.

>>

>>>>> And

>>

>>>>> per building code the front door must be made fully accessible before

>> any

>>

>>>>> other accessibility work starts on the rest of the building - at some

>>

>>>>> point

>>

>>>>> an inspector's gonna notice since they all go through that

>> door..anyhow.

>>

>>>>>

>>

>>>>> Let me know how myself & those of us working on accessibility might be

>>

>>>>> able

>>

>>>>> to help -

>>

>>>>>

>>

>>>>> Best,

>>

>>>>> David

>>

>>>>>

>>

>>>>

>>

>>>

>>

>>

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