[DisasterRadio] hello
sam at bristolwireless.net
sam at bristolwireless.net
Sat Sep 25 04:19:17 PDT 2021
Sorry missed a bit
> I'll try that enclosure you suggest - its a good price. But I'm
> wondering, have you tried using one of them
> with the other parts in that part list?
Yes I pulled together that list. You could get a better quality
antenna if you're willing to research/spend a bit more.
> How did you handle mounting to and getting the aerial out,
I used the existing holes and cable glands.
Are those connectors the right size for that, without looking in
detail at the components I'm guessing it would want the small
connectors for the solar panel cable but its unclear if the 4-8 or
9-12 connector would be best for the antenna proposed - I think the
smaller (the antenna says 8mm)
Yes the smaller cable glands are what I used.
There are certainly other ways of doing it, the motivation for that
list was a zero-solder kit as many don't have a soldering iron.
If you are using that list then ask the MPPT guy (I forget his name)
to solder on the screw connectors for you.
The MPPT/ LiPO4 is not the cheapest route but is the least likely to
catch fire IMHO.
AFAIK DR is less power efficient than Meshtastic but does scale
better. Meshtastic is limited to three hops I think, and a max of 30
users. I believe LoraLayer2/ DR can do better than that, but I'm not
sure if anyone has actually tested a network that large.
Thanks
Sam
Quoting Mitra Ardron <mitra at mitra.biz>:
> Code
>
> Yes, I meant the one on the video.
>
> 3D printing is a totally fine way of doing an enclosure in low
> volumes, but is a massive difference in both reality and "cost"
> between buying something on Alibaba or just via paypal from someone
> who has built them before, and something only available as a CAD/3D
> printer file. I've gone through the process of finding a 3D printing
> shop, and getting something made, with a less than 50% success rate,
> and a one-off is always more expensive as even a good shop has to
> allow for the likely cost of getting it wrong the first time.
>
> One of the advantages disaster.radio potentially has over some of
> the other solutions its the potential for geek-free setup and
> install. I can figure it out, but most of the villages around here -
> who could use a setup like disaster radio - don't have a resident
> geek, and trying to find a 3D printer to print a one-off certainly
> puts it in the needs-a-geek bucket.
>
> The enclosure Sam suggests sounds a better candidate, though it
> needs the panel mounted separately.
>
> Sam
>
> I'll try that enclosure you suggest - its a good price. But I'm
> wondering, have you tried using one of them with the other parts in
> that part list? How did you handle mounting to and getting the
> aerial out, Are those connectors the right size for that, without
> looking in detail at the components I'm guessing it would want the
> small connectors for the solar panel cable but its unclear if the
> 4-8 or 9-12 connector would be best for the antenna proposed - I
> think the smaller (the antenna says 8mm)
>
>
> On 24/9/21 7:10 am, Code Bus wrote:
>> What enclosure are you referring to?
>> If you mean the one featured in the video, you're free to make them
>> yourself. The design exists as CAD and in 3d printable formats in
>> the github repository. It is not less "real" simply because it
>> hasn't been mass produced.
>>
>> Otherwise, like we've suggested, you can follow the Aliexpress
>> parts list and make a working device, or use any enclosure designed
>> to prevent water ingress.
>>
>> Sep 23, 2021, 20:46 by mitra at mitra.biz:
>>
>> Thanks Sam
>>
>> I was looking at the enclosure shown on the image on
>> https://disaster.radio/ and thought that might have been real :-(
>>
>> - Mitra
>>
>> On 23/9/21 10:30 pm, sam at bristolwireless.net wrote:
>>
>> Can you clarify what the current state is - i.e. if I got
>> the boards, built a pair of units, and flashed it - then
>> would the chat and map apps talk over it.
>>
>>
>> Yes that should be possible. You can buy them pre-flashed if
>> you want to miss that step:
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000396836096.html
>>
>> If using the webapp you only get a chat.
>>
>> If you use the Android app then you get a chat and a map AFAIK.
>>
>> By the way ... I notice there is a bad link to the
>> enclosure on https://disaster.radio/build/
>>
>>
>> Thx started fixing that link here:
>> https://github.com/sudomesh/disaster-radio-website/pull/12
>> awaiting someone to approve.
>>
>> This was the enclosure used:
>> https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000452268197.html
>>
>> It's fairly obvious how to put it together, but there are some
>> instructions here too:
>> https://hackaday.io/project/170069-disaster-radio-lora-mesh
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Sam
>>
>>
>>
>> - Mitra
>>
>>
>> On 23/9/21 10:49 am, Code Bus wrote:
>>
>> The project lacks a maintainer with enough time to
>> really give it the care it needs.
>> I've been spending my free time trying to modify the
>> firmware for the v3 dual-module prototype, it is
>> slow-going.
>>
>> Other LoRa boards seem to work pretty well with the
>> firmware in its current state
>>
>>
>> Sep 22, 2021, 20:37 by mitra at mitra.biz:
>>
>> I tried to find out what was happening with
>> Disaster Radio, by
>> asking here - got zero responses :-( its really
>> hard to figure out
>> if there is anything going on that is useful to
>> connect with :-(
>>
>> On 23/9/21 9:48 am, Greg Troxel wrote:
>>
>> eM Grzegorz<emgrzegorz at interia.pl>
>> <mailto:emgrzegorz at interia.pl> writes:
>>
>> Hi,active list?Grzegorz
>>
>> Sort of. When people ask, someone answers.
>> But not much seems to be
>> happening. I do have the impression that those
>> on the list wish there'd
>> be more activity, and that most of them sort of
>> hope to contribute. I
>> of course do not speak for the coalition.
>>
>> Perhaps you can tell us why you're interested
>> and what you'd like to see
>> as highest priority.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> -- Mitra Ardron - mitra at mitra.biz www.mitra.biz
>> +61-491-082-515 mobile; +1-510-423-1767 whatsapp
>>
>>
> --
> Mitra Ardron -mitra at mitra.biz www.mitra.biz
> +61-491-082-515 mobile; +1-510-423-1767 whatsapp
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