[Mesh] humor

[Isaac Wilder]

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 05:38:02PM -0700, Marc Juul wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 5:29 PM, Jenny Ryan <tunabananas at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > On Mon 21 Apr 2014 12:28:46 AM PDT, David Keenan wrote:
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> > http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/21/us/us-promotes-network-to-foil-digital-spying.html?hp&_r=0
> > >
> > > lets apply for some of that USAID to fight spying at home?
> >
> > This article is seriously disturbing. I didn't realize OTI was
> > promoting mesh networks as a secure alternative to the Internet. In the
> > Middle East. Maybe someone from the Commotion team is on this list and
> > wants to speak to the actual goals of the project and ways in which the
> > messaging around it could have been miscommunicated by the NYT?
> >
> 
> “The technology is built from the ground up to be resistant to outside
> snooping,” Mr. Meinrath said...
> 
> I wonder what he was referring to. If he was referring to mesh networking
> as used by OTI as the article implies then he's either an idiot or an
> asshole.
> 
> 

If I had to guess, he's referring to OTI's port of Serval's Distributed
Numbering Architecture to Commotion. Has some cjdns like features where
basic crypto is built into the addressing.

There should be a disclaimer a mile long on this assertion.

> > I think it's really important we all understand and emphasize to new
> > folks that mesh networks are not by default more secure than other
> > kinds of networks, though they are more resilient. This is why we have
> > monthly cryptoparties at sudo, so we can teach good end-user security
> > hygiene. We can further level up by promoting the use of more
> > trustworthy services, such as Riseup for email and OwnCloud for
> > storage, on the mesh splash page or some such.
> >
> > One bonus point for SudoWRT is that it uses wlan-slovenija's
> > tunneldigger, routing all connections on the public network through a
> > VPN. So actually, our mesh will be more anonymous (insofar as being
> > unable to pin an IP to a specific identity) than most networks.
> >
> 
> Yes. Though it is so far less anonymous from inside the local mesh (we're
> working on this). Also, we should emphasize that this is not a good
> anonymity solution and that people should use Tor. For those who may be new
> to sudomesh: The only real purpose of the tunneldigger VPN is to make it
> much more likely that the mesh organization will be contacted about abuse
> complaints instead of the individual sharing their Internet connection.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > We are also not funded by the State Dept.
> >
> > - --
> > Jenny
> > http://jennyryan.net
> > http://sudomesh.org
> > http://thevirtualcampfire.org
> > http://technomadic.tumblr.com
> >
> > `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`
> > "Technology is the campfire around which we tell our stories."
> > - -Laurie Anderson
> >
> > "Storytelling reveals meaning without committing the error of defining
> > it."
> >  -Hannah Arendt
> >
> > "To define is to kill. To suggest is to create."
> > - -Stéphane Mallarmé
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