[Mesh] Amazon AWS credit

Mitar mitar at tnode.com
Sun Feb 2 20:26:33 PST 2014


Hi!

> I came into Sudo Mesh because of its intention to provide not only
> free, but also 'secure' wireless connection to the people.
> 
> And, the idea of using Amazon VPN's just scares the hell out of me.

Basing our decisions on irrational fear and prejudice does not help our
goals.

1.) If security of our network depends on the fact that nothing runs on
Amazon, then we are doing something wrong.

2.) To have a secure network for people, you have first to have a
network for people. And network for people does not mean 3 nodes between
crypto-experts, but thousands of nodes between people not knowing
anything about security. And you get thousands of nodes by making things
easy to use, spread, install, spawn new networks.

But I see that I am in minority on this, so will stop arguing.


Mitar

> On 2/1/14, 4:45 PM, Mitar wrote:
>> Hi!
> 
>> You should not trust any 3rd part service. :-) And you should
>> build technology to not require such trust.
> 
>> So your argument is invalid. I see Amazon as a easy way for getting
>> at least something of the ground for new networks. It is far from
>> perfect, but it is better than nothing.
> 
> 
>> Mitar
> 
>>> My guts say not to trust Amazon. Period.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/1/14, 4:08 PM, Mitar wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>> I see that I do not know much Amazon. :-)
>>>
>>>> OK, can somebody then compute how much it costs to run a micro 
>>>> instance + bandwidth?
>>>
>>>> https://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/
>>>
>>>
>>>> Mitar
>>>
>>>>> What are the bandwidth costs? From what I understand, that is
>>>>> the biggest cost with amazon month over month.
>>>>>
>>>>> Possible compromise: use the credit to develop/test an was
>>>>> image (Ami). Don't run a production VPN hop on it.
>>>>>
>>>>> So if folks have amazon already, they can utilize the ami.
>>>>>
>>>
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