[Mesh] mesh Digest, Vol 13, Issue 7

Mitar mitar at tnode.com
Thu Feb 6 15:48:00 PST 2014 

Hi!

I still hope to see this deployed as well:

http://riosec.com/open-secure-wireless-2.0

Secure, but open APs. Like a HTTPS websites, where you can have
encryption, but you do not have to provide a password to access it.


Mitar

> Nothing surprising about the fact that the Cable industry is taking
> advantage of the commons (unregulated spectrum) to increase the value of
> their privately owned assets. But it's probably a good idea for us to pay
> attention to what they're doing, as it will have a lot of implications for
> how people connect to wireless networks in the future. Specifically, Cable
> is investing heavily in the Hotspot 2.0 standard
> (802.11u<http://a030f85c1e25003d7609-b98377aee968aad08453374eb1df3398.r40.cf2.rackcdn.com/wp/wp-how-interworking-works.pdf>).
> Hotspot 2.0 creates a cellular-roaming like experience on mobile devices,
> allowing the process of selecting appropriate networks and providing
> necessary credentials to happen in the background, without any input from
> users. Pretty soon (1-2 years away I'd guess), Cable companies will likely
> become an MVNO and their customers phones will automatically connect to any
> Cable wifi hotspot.
> 
> This isn't something we need to think about right now, but it's definitely
> worth keeping an eye on. If the 802.11u standard gets widely adopted, it'll
> change the way the average person connects to WiFi networks. If you want to
> learn more about Hotspot 2.0, here's a good article about it:
> http://www.muniwireless.com/2013/12/02/cashing-in-on-hotspot-2-0/
> 
> 
> On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 12:00 PM, <mesh-request at lists.sudoroom.org> wrote:
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>>    1. Re: Comcast public wifi (Pete Forsyth)
>>    2. Re: Comcast public wifi (Chris Jefferies)
>>    3. Re: Comcast public wifi (Hol Gaskill)
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>> Message: 1
>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 12:18:26 -0800
>> From: Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com>
>> To: Thomas Dudley <trd3r at virginia.edu>
>> Cc: "mesh at lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh at lists.sudoroom.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Mesh] Comcast public wifi
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>> Interesting topic, and well written article -- thanks much for sharing,
>> Thomas!
>>
>> I think the kind of language the reporter uses here is a good example of
>> how to effectively talk to a general audience about mesh and related
>> concepts...
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> www.wikistrategies.net/pete-forsyth
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>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Thomas Dudley <trd3r at virginia.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I've been lurking on this list for little a while - I love the progress
>>> you're making! I ran across this article recently which I thought you'd
>>> find interesting. Classic monopoly behavior (bundling) from Comcast:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> http://www.dailydemocrat.com/business/ci_25059667/dont-panic-but-that-public-wi-fi-comes
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
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>> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:03:48 -0800
>> From: Chris Jefferies <chris at freeranger.com>
>> To: Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "mesh at lists.sudoroom.org" <mesh at lists.sudoroom.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Mesh] Comcast public wifi
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>> I was scanning my neighborhood near El Cerrito and Kensington and found
>> about 8 "xfinitywifi" SSIDs.
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>> --
>> Chris Jefferies
>> (510) 409-0003 - mobile
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Interesting topic, and well written article -- thanks much for sharing,
>>> Thomas!
>>>
>>> I think the kind of language the reporter uses here is a good example of
>>> how to effectively talk to a general audience about mesh and related
>>> concepts...
>>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> www.wikistrategies.net/pete-forsyth
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Thomas Dudley <trd3r at virginia.edu>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> I've been lurking on this list for little a while - I love the progress
>>>> you're making! I ran across this article recently which I thought you'd
>>>> find interesting. Classic monopoly behavior (bundling) from Comcast:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.dailydemocrat.com/business/ci_25059667/dont-panic-but-that-public-wi-fi-comes
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
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>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2014 00:07:14 +0000 (UTC)
>> From: Hol Gaskill <hol at gaskill.com>
>> To: chris at freeranger.com
>> Cc: mesh at lists.sudoroom.org
>> Subject: Re: [Mesh] Comcast public wifi
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>> didn't get a chance to read the article, but I've heard chatter about
>> broadcasting from subscribers' wifi-equipped modems.  the nerve.
>>
>>
>> Feb 5, 2014 04:04:13 PM, chris at freeranger.com wrote:
>> I was scanning my neighborhood near El Cerrito and Kensington and found
>> about 8 "xfinitywifi" SSIDs.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Chris Jefferies
>>> (510) 409-0003 - mobile
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Pete Forsyth peteforsyth at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Interesting topic, and well written article -- thanks much for sharing,
>> Thomas!
>>>
>>> I think the kind of language the reporter uses here is a good example of
>> how to effectively talk to a general audience about mesh and related
>> concepts...
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Pete
>>>
>>> www.wikistrategies.net/pete-forsyth
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 11:46 AM, Thomas Dudley trd3r at virginia.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> I've been lurking on this list for little a while - I love the progress
>> you're making! I ran across this article recently which I thought you'd
>> find interesting. Classic monopoly behavior (bundling) from Comcast:
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>> http://www.dailydemocrat.com/business/ci_25059667/dont-panic-but-that-public-wi-fi-comes
>> ?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>> Thomas
>>>
>>
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