[Mesh] What's up with this? You may want to Check your node. The one I have has this constant connection to a Server log ("100.64.0.10:514")?

Thu Oct 5 00:06:45 PDT 2017

The web interface logging configuration area, screenshot.

On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 12:04 AM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Jehan, and Jorrit thank you for replying.
>
> We part of the same group of fans, Jorrit.
>
> *Last Night, Web Interface:*
> Last night I logged onto the node as root via the web interface, and while
> there I came across the "Logging" section (System>System
> Properties>Logging).  In this section I removed the buffer size, external
> system log server's IP number, and the external system log server port
> number; saving, applying the changes, and then rebooting the node.
>
> *Tonight (2017-10-04), SSH:*
> This evening I followed up someone's lead and I checked on the node via
> SSH, and reached out to the file that handles the logging settings. The
> path is: /etc/config/system. While on it I remarked additional items,
> rebooted the node, logged back in, and last I checked for connections; the
> log server is not longer connected. It possibly was not connected from last
> night, but I didn't check that then. It was more sleepy than awake. :)
>
> FYI, I may most likely not coming to next meeting on Tuesday; that is why
> I typed here what I thought was useful information.
>
> Hasta luego!
>
> Daniel
>
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> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> Are we in control of the server with this IP? If so, we should turn it
>> off and hold onto the IP to prevent future logging without having to update
>> every peoples open node out there. If someone else is in control of the
>> server, we need to find out who they are and get it from them.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 5:38 AM, Jorrit Poelen <jhpoelen at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Daniel -
>>>
>>> Thanks for sharing this and asking for opinions.
>>>
>>> Personally, I am fan of keeping as little identifiable information
>>> around as possible. The mesh prototol itself already provides plenty of
>>> information about other nodes, so from where I am standing, I don't see the
>>> immediate need for centralized logging beyond keeping a temporary log of
>>> mesh routing tables.
>>>
>>> Also, I'd say that the great thing (and bad thing) about centralized
>>> logging servers is that they can be easily turned off.
>>>
>>> Hoping I can join a lively discussion on this for the next meeting.
>>>
>>> thx,
>>> -jorrit
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2017-10-03 at 23:49 -0700, danarauz at gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Update:
>>>
>>> I also notified about this finding to folks that are part of the mesh
>>> Signal Messaging group, and so far the person replying says that it may be
>>> a centralized log Server. A link ( https://github.com/sudomesh/su
>>> dowrt-firmware/issues/68 ) was also provided, about an issue in github
>>> that talks about the implementation of this Syslog Server.
>>>
>>> After reading the issue on github, I checked on the /var/log/messages
>>> file.
>>> This log file collects all the HostNames, IP address, and MAC address of
>>> all connecting devices (computers, phones, iPads, AppleTVs, etc) to the
>>> Mesh and Private networks.
>>>
>>> Even though I understand the need for logs for troubleshooting purposes,
>>> I would like to know others folks thoughts about this collection.
>>>
>>> Are you okay with this?
>>> How critical is to have these log files?
>>> Is possible for Peoples Open Network to be part of the "No Logs, No
>>> Masters" idea?
>>>
>>> With the absolute intention of making the PON stronger and safer,
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:04 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> screenshot attached.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 8:59 PM, danarauz at gmail.com <danarauz at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> What's up with this?  You may want to Check your node. The one I have
>>> has this constant connection to a Server log ("100.64.0.10:514")?
>>>
>>> Are all PON nodes pushing logs to a remote location, or is t just me?
>>>
>>> I SSH to my PON node and while checking for current connections I see
>>> this established connection "100.64.0.10:514 (Syslog Server?)?
>>> Been refreshing for about 20+ minutes and the connection seems constant.
>>>
>>> Can someone please explain this?
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>>
>>>
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