[sudo-discuss] Boyscouts suing Hacker Scouts !

Pete Forsyth peteforsyth at gmail.com
Wed Aug 21 12:52:30 PDT 2013


Not sure why this grabbed my interest, but I did a little digging around
the use of the term "Scouts," and found this page:
http://histclo.com/youth/youth/org/sco/country/us/scoutus-abs.htm (this
interesting bits are in the "Litigation" section and just below.)

It seems that the claim does have some basis going back to the 19-teens,
but that the House Judiciary Committee and courts emphasized things like
the *intention* of creating confusion about the organizations (Boy Scouts
of America vs. United States Boy Scout), the importance of the integrity of
the *badges* awarded by the BSA, and the extensive public service provided
(at least at the time) by the BSA's projects.

Whether any of those apply in this case, I don't know…but I'm skeptical.

Pete


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM, Pete Forsyth <peteforsyth at gmail.com>wrote:

> And here's a bit on that "congressional charter" part:
> http://enwp.org/Boy_Scouts_of_America#Federally_chartered_corporation The
> Wikipedia article mentions the exclusive use of the term "scout", but did
> not provide a citation. I just added a [citation needed] tag.
>
> Interesting stuff.
> Pete
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Anthony Di Franco <di.franco at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Here is the context, in case like me you were wondering, but didn't care
>> to dig:
>>
>> https://www.adafruit.com/blog/2013/08/20/boy-scouts-of-america-threatens-to-sue-hacker-scouts-over-name/
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Mitch Altman <maltman23 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> We really need to put pressure on these F*!&^#(&-ing  A*!&^#(&-holes at
>>> the Boy Scouts of America.  They really do not seem to care about the world
>>> we all inhabit, and need to be put in their place.
>>>
>>> MAKE, Sparkfun, Adafruit are into pressuring the BSA.  If we can get a
>>> bunch of hackerspaces to do the same, we will make an impact.
>>>
>>> "no matter what happens, how we all react to a group like the BSA will
>>> define "us" fighting and losing is ok, but i think you need to fight it all
>>> the way… think of a world where there are hacker scouts, learning sharing
>>> and it would all start with a shared victory together over an old
>>> oppressive scared group trying to get in the way of the future." --
>>> Phil Torrone, of Adafruit
>>>
>>> Here are just a few places to add some well-placed comments:
>>> >>>>>> Boy Scouts Google+ page:
>>> >>>>>> https://plus.google.com/u/0/+BoyScoutsofAmerica/posts
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Boy Scouts Facebook page:
>>> >>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Boy-Scouts-of-America/113441755297
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Bot Scouts on Twitter:
>>> >>>>>> https://twitter.com/boyscouts
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Boy Scouts on YouTube:
>>> >>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/bsa100years
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Email:
>>> >>>>>> PR at scouting.org
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> The official publication for the adult volunteers site:
>>> >>>>>> http://blog.scoutingmagazine.org
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Twitter:
>>> >>>>>> http://www.twitter.com/scouting
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Facebook:
>>> >>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/scoutingmagazine
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Email:
>>> >>>>>> scoutingmag at gmail.com
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Boy's Life Magazine:
>>> >>>>>> http://boyslife.org/
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Twitter:
>>> >>>>>> https://twitter.com/BoysLife
>>> >>>>>> Email:
>>> >>>>>> boyslife.mag at scouting.org
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Mitch.
>>>
>>>
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