[sudo-discuss] anyone able to pick up an x-ray machine from Daly City?

Jehan Tremback jehan.tremback at gmail.com
Fri Feb 8 13:09:50 PST 2013


Additionally, I believe that hazardous radiation may be in conflict with
our safe space policies. Perhaps we can draft a radiation policy at the
next meeting?


On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Jehan Tremback <jehan.tremback at gmail.com>wrote:

> IMO its possibly better for us to do non radioactive art projects.
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm all in favor of avoiding exposure to x-rays. I'd say this thing
>> probably is never going to work, and might make an interesting art project
>> or something.
>>
>> If people are serious about attempting to make it work as an x-ray
>> source, there would need to be a clear plan about how people would be
>> protected from it. And I suspect that the time while the fix is being
>> attempted, that is the most likely time to have accidental exposure to
>> x-rays, so protection would need to come first.
>>
>> Probably requires building some sort of lead lined enclosure around the
>> thing with safety interlocks to make sure the door is closed before it can
>> turn on, and that would probably be pretty expensive.
>>
>> But if people are really into it, and can put up the money to make it
>> happen...then the idea should be considered.
>>
>> -steve
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:56 PM, Ryan Bethencourt <
>> ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Steve, those lead shields are useful in minimizing radiation
>>> exposure in a clinical setting but unfortunately in a hacker space I would
>>> probably classify having an active X-ray source as a hazardous danger. I'm
>>> not against controlled risks but there is a very real risk of inadvertantly
>>> exposing other occupants to X-rays (even accidentally) and that could be a
>>> problem. Similar to some of the biowork that a few of us are hoping to do,
>>> we have to be really careful to ensure Sudo room is a physically safe
>>> enviroment (within reason) for all members, even if that means some things
>>> may not be possible in our shared space and I would feel a little
>>> uncomfortable with an active X-ray source being used (even if I'm in the
>>> other room).
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any additional thoughts on this? I'm not an X-ray (or
>>> radiation) expert but I just wanted to chime in around the safety
>>> considerations that I thought might be important for us!
>>>
>>> R
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Matthew Meier <wolfy at wlfy.it> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In theory this thing first actually work.
>>>>
>>>> He was unable to meet up yesterday so someone still needs to pick it up.
>>>>
>>>> -Wolfy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, February 8, 2013, Steve Berl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.universalmedicalinc.com/Lead-Shields-s/232.htm?gclid=CKuco-q5p7UCFct7QgodkSgAVQ
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, February 8, 2013, Ryan Bethencourt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Guys,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a word of caution from a Bio/Clinical guy (which I'm sure most
>>>>>> of you are aware of but I just thought I'd bring it up).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have to be really careful with X-ray's and if/when they're used in
>>>>>> Sudo room as it can be carcinogenic (ionizing radiation causes DNA damage
>>>>>> with potential to cause cancer). Radiation sources can also penetrate
>>>>>> walls, so it could have potential outside of the confines of sudoroom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the machine is held in Sudo room we should also clearly mark it
>>>>>> and let everyone know if/when it's activated!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>> Ryan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What sort of an X-ray machine? I've always thought it would be handy
>>>>>>> to have one around to see what's inside various devices.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 7, 2013, Matthew Senate wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Wolfy lives close by there, so he can pick it up!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> // Matt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 5:58 PM, Matthew Senate <
>>>>>>>> mattsenate at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let me know, would be great to get someone close by soon.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> // Matt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> -steve
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Ryan Bethencourt
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tel: (415) 794 6463
>>>>>> ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.bamh1.com
>>>>>> www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> -steve
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ryan Bethencourt
>>>
>>> Tel: (415) 794 6463
>>> ryan.bethencourt at gmail.com
>>>
>>> www.bamh1.com
>>> www.linkedin.com/in/bethencourt
>>> www.logos-press.com/books/biotechnology_business_development.php
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -steve
>>
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