[sudo-discuss] No more pews

[Marina Kukso]

thanks jordan, it's really unacceptable for him to call at that hour
without it being an emergency and i'm sorry you had to take his abuse. i
also appreciate you writing this up right away.

none of us have any insight into george's internal states and his
motivations when he yells at people. we don't know whether he's really
upset about the pews or upset about some other stuff and taking it out on
our poor pews. we also have no idea as to whether he'll continue to be
upset with the pews (we all know how he likes things sometimes, tolerates
them at other times, and hates them at third times. he's enjoyed sitting on
the pews in the past and has changed his mind about all kinds of stuff in
the past as well).

if what he's really upset about is the cleanliness of the common room, then
i wonder whether he would accept some negotiation over the pews in exchange
for a clearer agreement on the state of the common room that will allow us
to maintain the standards that he feels are necessary in order to show it
to potential renters. (just on a sidenote, a couple weeks ago jenny sent to
laurie and george the event cleanliness checklist and i believe that the
list was accepted by them (jenny can you confirm? could you possibly also
send that list around again?)

thanks,
marina


On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:33 PM, Andrew <andrew at roshambomedia.com> wrote:

> Well, only a mater of time. With no clear boundaries for the common room,
> if he hates the pews, the pews go.
>
> BTW. that church is right by my house. We heard the screeching and a loud
> crash. Here's a picture:
>
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>
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> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Yardena Cohen <yardenack at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Apparently I am our landlord's new preferred liaison. He called my
>> phone at 10:45 tonight and complained at length about the common area.
>> Specifically, he said the pews need to go by the end of the month. He
>> says he never gave permission for them, and he's hated them from the
>> beginning. He also suggested they be donated to the Joshua Christian
>> Church in West Oakland which was apparently smashed up by a car last
>> week. He said if they're not gone by the end of the month he will
>> remove them himself, possibly by bludgeoning them into pieces and
>> carrying the pieces to a dumpster.
>>
>> I did not say yes or no. It was very hard to get a word in edgewise,
>> but I repeated several times, "I cannot speak for sudoroom. I will
>> relay your message to the group. Thank you for letting us know."
>>
>> For context, the common area is actually cleaner today than it's been
>> in almost two weeks. To be perfectly honest, the timing tells me that
>> he's been stewing in frustration for quite a while. I think seeing a
>> moderate improvement gave him some clarity in terms of what he wants.
>> Frankly we've abused his flexibility about the common area. The pews
>> do encourage people to act irresponsibly, to forget we are guests out
>> there, to neglect to clean up after events, to turn it into a garbage
>> dump. By evicting the pews he's saying the party's over, stay in the
>> area you're paying for, unless you want to pay for the rest of it. He
>> did offer to quote us on the full square footage of the common area,
>> if we want...
>>
>> It didn't have to be this way. If it was just the pews, I think he'd
>> deal. But he sees them as a slippery slope, a gateway to an overall
>> sense of entitlement beyond what he owes us, and I can't say I'm
>> surprised.
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