[sudo-discuss] [Noisebridge-discuss] Announcement - RockIT CoLabs

Sonja Trauss sonja.trauss at gmail.com
Sun Jul 7 21:29:41 PDT 2013


hackerspaces are combination office space and utopian capital sharing
experiment, not to be confused with just shared work space. A place where
"all you get is a desk and an internet connection" isn't a hackerspace,
it's just a shared work space, even if the people are doing programming for
work.
I'm not surprised at all to see someone who's into hackerspaces for the
second reason get annoyed when he thinks a hackerspce is getting confused
with a work space.


On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM, David Rorex <drorex at gmail.com> wrote:

> Seriously, give the guy a break. It's attitudes like Marc's that drive
> away people from the "true" hackerspaces. Live and let live: just because
> his space has a different organizational model than yours doesn't mean it's
> some sort of evil masterplan to steal all your members and get rich by
> squeezing money out of them. There are spaces in sf / oakland that charge
> $250 a month and all you get is a desk and an internet connection. There's
> room for a whole spectrum of spaces in the bay area. Mitch Altman's dream
> is a day where there are more hackerspaces than liquor stores.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Steve Berl <steveberl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Seems like sort of a blend of Tech Liminal, Techshop, and a hacker space.
>> Not clear why you think it's a bad thing. I don't see it claiming to be
>> anything that it is not.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 1, 2013, Marc Juul wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:54 PM, J.C. <r33lmm at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 3:48 PM, Darren Overby <darren at rockitcolabs.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Excuse the interruption Noisebridge fans,
>>>>>
>>>>> In the interest of possible cross-pollination, I wanted to let you
>>>>> know about a new place to hack - RocSounds like a crap attempt at kIT
>>>>> CoLabs <http://www.rockitcolabs.com/noisebridge-invite>.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> Co-working? yes
>>>
>>> Makerspace? yah
>>>
>>> Tech startups? check
>>>
>>> $200 monthly dues? yep
>>>
>>> For profit? nothing stated to the contrary. seems likely.
>>>
>>> Hierarchical organizational structure? assumed guilty until proven
>>> innocent
>>>
>>> Attempt to make their business venture more successful by luring in
>>> hackers from local non-profits? sounds like it
>>>
>>> "People frequently ask me how I came to be such an unconventional
>>> thinker and unusual serial entrepreneur. ... " -- Darren Overby
>>>
>>> By being unusually modest? No? Oh, wait, is the answer: By co-opting
>>> existing open communities into for-profit organizations?
>>>
>>> If this is actually a non-hierarchical non-profit, then color me
>>> embarrassed.
>>>
>>> Someone please let me know that I'm wrong. Please.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Marc
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -steve
>>
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